lkoechle Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I got stung by my BTA this morning am I'm definitely a little allergic, so I should probably invest in some gloves. Anyone have any favorites? I'd prefer something tight fitting so I can still feel what I'm doing. Reccomendations? Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Latex powder free gloves. Amazon, get 200 pairs for under $20. Link to comment
lkoechle Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Latex powder free gloves. Amazon, get 200 pairs for under $20. And I guess I should mention, I'm also allerigc to latex. lol Is Nitrile reef safe? Link to comment
evanski Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 You should be absolutely good to go with nitrile...they are non-reactive and used in surgery etc. Link to comment
Mr. Microscope Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I use nitrile gloves in my reef. The mediums fit me nearly perfectly. I especially wear them while handling zoas or my nems. Though, I accidentally brushed my arm against one of my BTA's about a few months ago. It swelled up a bit, but I thought the sting was actually kinda fun. It must have released some sort of endorphins. I tried to get it to sting me again just for fun and I couldn't get it do it. I was like, stupid nem, and it was like, stupid human. lol Link to comment
bevo5 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I blow through these gloves. I use the nitrile ones....just make sure they're not powdered. They come in really handy - and are just as good for the things in the tank that don't want whatever is on your hands in their space. Win win. Link to comment
lkoechle Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 I think I'm going to try these: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=25864 A few petite women have reviewed them and says the sizing runs small so it fits them. I like the idea of shoulder length gloves because water getting into my gloves while doing dishes is the worst! Ihate wet gloves. And, knowing me, I'll do what Mr. Microscope did and brush my arm against the nem. But unlike Mr Microscope, there was no endorphine rush for me... freak. I'll post a review once I get them for others. I blow through these gloves. I use the nitrile ones....just make sure they're not powdered. They come in really handy - and are just as good for the things in the tank that don't want whatever is on your hands in their space. Win win. We use disposable nitrile gloves for dipping and fragging, I just want something a little heavier duty if I have to move rocks in my display. Link to comment
Mr. Microscope Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I think I'm going to try these: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=25864 A few petite women have reviewed them and says the sizing runs small so it fits them. I like the idea of shoulder length gloves because water getting into my gloves while doing dishes is the worst! Ihate wet gloves. And, knowing me, I'll do what Mr. Microscope did and brush my arm against the nem. But unlike Mr Microscope, there was no endorphine rush for me... freak. I'll post a review once I get them for others.LOL! Yeah, I'm a bit of a masochist like that But very true about the water in the gloves thing. That drives me nuts and it definitely happens. Usually, I'm reaching down in my reef, they fill up with water, then I take my hands out and turn them up on accident. Inevitably, a bunch of water falls out of the gloves all over the hardwood floors. Link to comment
lkoechle Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 LOL! Yeah, I'm a bit of a masochist like that ;)But very true about the water in the gloves thing. That drives me nuts and it definitely happens. Usually, I'm reaching down in my reef, they fill up with water, then I take my hands out and turn them up. Inevitably, a bunch of water falls out of the gloves all over the hardwood floors. Same. my husband is constantly bitching "Hardwood in a fishroom?! Never again!" lol I think the room is going to be tiled at some point. Link to comment
bevo5 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I have those full length gloves as well. I got the coralife version. They would be good for moving heavy rocks and stuff but they are horrible at anything that takes actual finger dexterity. They're very bulky. The ones you linked to actually seem a bit thinner, which would be good. The good thing is that they go up past your elbows so you wont get water in the gloves. Link to comment
Cencalfishguy56 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I use nitrile gloves in my reef. The mediums fit me nearly perfectly. I especially wear them while handling zoas or my nems. Though, I accidentally brushed my arm against one of my BTA's about a few months ago. It swelled up a bit, but I thought the sting was actually kinda fun. It must have released some sort of endorphins. I tried to get it to sting me again just for fun and I couldn't get it do it. I was like, stupid nem, and it was like, stupid human. lol If you are able to come up with some sort of exogenous endorphins you'll be a millionaire my friend! Lol Link to comment
Mr. Microscope Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 If you are able to come up with some sort of exogenous endorphins you'll be a millionaire my friend! LolLol! I guess my grammar was a little off there. I meant to say my body produced the endorphins. I'm pretty sure they didn't come from the nem. Haha! It's funny. A similar thing happened to me the last time I was stung by a bee. The bee hurt about a hudred times worse, but put me in a stellar mood the rest of the day. Link to comment
lkoechle Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Lol! I guess my grammar was a little off there. I meant to say my body produced the endorphins. I'm pretty sure they didn't come from the nem. Haha! It's funny. A similar thing happened to me the last time I was stung by a bee. The bee hurt about a hudred times worse, but put me in a stellar mood the rest of the day. You strike me as a bondage fellow... Link to comment
Cencalfishguy56 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Lol! I guess my grammar was a little off there. I meant to say my body produced the endorphins. I'm pretty sure they didn't come from the nem. Haha! It's funny. A similar thing happened to me the last time I was stung by a bee. The bee hurt about a hudred times worse, but put me in a stellar mood the rest of the day. Hahaha that's crazy! Guess we should just get stung and call it a good day Link to comment
hypostatic Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 search "nitrile long sleeve glove" on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Glove-WG772L-26-Inch-Nitrile/dp/B001PBEIZQ Link to comment
Benny314 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Hypostatic that's just scary I don't even want to know why you know about these lol. As for gloves tearing and filling with water, if you get standard (normally blue) medical grade gloves in the right size they should be all but skin tight so not fill with water that easily (rubber bands around the wrist help too) and as they are so tight they don't tend to tear as they aren't slopping around on your hands, they're like a second skin and you forget you have them on. The only issues with gloves that fit that well are, if you have wet hands you have no hope of getting the buggers on, and if it's a hot day, as with all rubber gloves, you sweat in them and then they will slip and tear easily. Link to comment
Felicia Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 search "nitrile long sleeve glove" on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Glove-WG772L-26-Inch-Nitrile/dp/B001PBEIZQ I have these exact ones in a medium and they fit pretty well. They're bulkier than regular gloves but I have enough dexterity to do basic stuff with them on. I'm wearing them as my lionfish protection while I work on the tank or feed the fish now. I don't think I could do delicate fragging in them, but glass scraping, moving rocks, and feeding are all no problem in these. Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why are some people more susceptible to coral "toxin" than others? Earlier this week my dad was helping me move corals to the new tank, and he got major hives (I think from zoanthids). Does this have to do with the strength of his immune system? Have I built up a tolerance? Is there a buological correlate? Link to comment
CronicReefer Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why are some people more susceptible to coral "toxin" than others? Earlier this week my dad was helping me move corals to the new tank, and he got major hives (I think from zoanthids). Does this have to do with the strength of his immune system? Have I built up a tolerance? Is there a buological correlate? Did he have any cuts or scrapes? Coral toxins are definitely dangerous in high doses but your father may have some allergy that you don't have. I brush up against my euphyllia and handle zoas bare handed no problem but others can not always do this. Link to comment
Marc.The.Shark Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I use these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-100-Polyethylene-Clear-Disposable-Shoulder-Length-Gloves-/201341420388?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee0e24364#ht_204wt_1362 100 gloves for about 15 bucks, use them a few times then just throw away. One size, but thin enuf to give pretty good dexterity with the water pressure. Clear Polyethylene. Lasts me for a few years Link to comment
tibbsy07 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why are some people more susceptible to coral "toxin" than others? Earlier this week my dad was helping me move corals to the new tank, and he got major hives (I think from zoanthids). Does this have to do with the strength of his immune system? Have I built up a tolerance? Is there a buological correlate? It may not have even been the zoas. It could have been the salt water itself or temperature, etc. Could have been a lot of things. As for the strength of the immune system, kind of, but it's more that it was simply his body's system saying "Hey, this isn't right" and your body ignoring it. It's just like any other allergic reaction. Zoa toxin isn't really something one can build a tolerance to. It's phenomenally dangerous. You'd have to be exposed to increasing fractions of doses on a regular basis for a very long time to build tolerance. You could say you have tolerance because your body didn't produce an allergic reaction to whatever it was that your dad had one to, but it's not that you've built a tolerance, more that genetically he doesn't have a tolerance. Link to comment
Cencalfishguy56 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why are some people more susceptible to coral "toxin" than others? Earlier this week my dad was helping me move corals to the new tank, and he got major hives (I think from zoanthids). Does this have to do with the strength of his immune system? Have I built up a tolerance? Is there a buological correlate? It can be classified as an allergen I would think, most people have different allergens compared to others and also some people's skin are more sensitive than others based on certain neuroreceptors, this is why some people handle pain better than others while a sting by a BTA may not affect one individual it may be the total opposite for another individual, your dad may have broken out from a couple of things as previously stated, the salt mix, the water, the actual toxin, something in the sand could be a number of things thus why he had an inflammatory response Link to comment
lkoechle Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 You can also develope an allergy. I wasn't allergic to latex when I was younger, but when I was 14 the allergy presented itself when I had braces with latex rubber bands. I also have a mild hay allergy that I think developed from repeated exposure while working with horses. I have to wear long sleeves and gloves now anytime I know I'll be handling hay or I'll have hivey arms for the rest of the day. I certainly didn't develope "tolerance" from being around it. I wonder if how the allergen is presented can kick off an allergic response. Prior to having braces (wearing latex bands 24/7, spending hours in a dental chair with latex covered hands in my mouth) I could wear latex gloves no problem. But once I got my braces and had my first allergic reaction, I couldn't wear latex gloves anymore without my hands having a reaction in about 5 minutes. So for me, the opposite of what you claim happened, over exposure to allergens caused allergies to develop for me. Link to comment
Mr. Microscope Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 You strike me as a bondage fellow... Lol! Not really. Though, a good spanking either way is fun from time to time. Link to comment
Cencalfishguy56 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 You can also develope an allergy. I wasn't allergic to latex when I was younger, but when I was 14 the allergy presented itself when I had braces with latex rubber bands. I also have a mild hay allergy that I think developed from repeated exposure while working with horses. I have to wear long sleeves and gloves now anytime I know I'll be handling hay or I'll have hivey arms for the rest of the day. I certainly didn't develope "tolerance" from being around it. I wonder if how the allergen is presented can kick off an allergic response. Prior to having braces (wearing latex bands 24/7, spending hours in a dental chair with latex covered hands in my mouth) I could wear latex gloves no problem. But once I got my braces and had my first allergic reaction, I couldn't wear latex gloves anymore without my hands having a reaction in about 5 minutes. So for me, the opposite of what you claim happened, over exposure to allergens caused allergies to develop for me. My moms the same way she's is an RN now case manager for the hospital she used to not be allergic to latex now she is, I think as you age certain allergens become more sensitive than others Link to comment
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