DongShenYin Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Ok, I took apart an old computer and removed the 2" heat sink. Now, if I glued this to the back of my Azoo Mini (which is made of plastic) will it bring the temperature down? And what sort of glue is recommended? Or will I have to be a guinea pig again? Link to comment
Littleoceans Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Hate to tell you this buddy..... It won't do anything for cooling.... that would only work metal to metal transfer of heat. It will not transfer any heatcooling from glass/plastic..... Link to comment
Dazureus Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 That's not necessariy true. While it is true that it won't cool much, the heat sink will "cool" any material regardless of composition; at least for general uses. Obviously, the surface area of the heat sink is designed to be greater allowing a higher air/surface interface. While it's true that metal to metal contact of two surfaces will trasfer heat energy faster since metal is a beter conductor, as long as the heat sink is being cooled (fan or any air flow lower than that of the heatsink) the heat sink will still act as a "heat sink" or heat drain for what ever surface it's touching. Plastic is generally an insulator, so it doesn't conduct heat well. But we all know that it does get hot over lights after period of time. An air cool heat sink that's in contact with this plastic, in an area where the air is cooler than the plastic, will work as prescribed. Link to comment
tinyreef Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 dsy, sorry, i missed this thread. i agree with dazur (like i mentioned to you directly). the plastic is a much better insulator than glass. i've only recommended the cpu cooler on glass tanks. i was only recently able to roughly compare it's ability (due to our recent crazy weather of hot/cold). it came out to about a 6F~8F cooling effect for a 15H tank and 120W of vho in a hood. during the 'test', the temp stopped at around 74F but that was where i had turned the heater down to. ambient room temp was around 76F~78F but this has always historically resulted in mucher higher temps for my tank(s), because of the addt'l light energy. Link to comment
Nishant3789 Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 hey thats kinda cool, how much do these things cost? Link to comment
tinyreef Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_slc.asp?Id=0505 or any radioshack should carry them. they should run you around $30 (fan, heat sink, and adapter). Link to comment
onthefly Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Tiny - How did you fix it to the glass? Link to comment
bertz_maru Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 hmmm imma try this out... did you glue it to the tank? does the heat sink get hot when its on the glass? Link to comment
hicksonj Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 I would put a dab of thermal paste on the heat sink, and then CA on the corners. Thermal paste is CPU paste that is available at any computer store for about 50 cents. CA is just super glue. Link to comment
tinyreef Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 i just glued it onto the glass with super glue. nothing fancy for me (i.e. i couldn't get the thermal paste to gel X) ). Link to comment
tinyreef Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 oh, he is, he IS! he's killed about six scarlet hermits. if he wasn't so expensive himself i woulda whacked him by now. friggin orchid! Link to comment
Nishant3789 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 so this would work just as well as a chiller? i think ill give it a shot! Link to comment
MattGecko Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Isn't this about the same as just blowing the little fan directly on the surface water? Good for maybe 1-2 Deg's How is that little heatsink/fan able to pull that much heat from such a large glass surface? Link to comment
tinyreef Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 matt, it seems to be working well being able to pull a 15g tank's temp down 6F~8F from an ambient of about 77F (i.e. tank temp of 73F~74F, it usually runs 2F~4F hotter than ambient). the ice probe says it's good for about 10F reduction itself but it's $60~$80 more. the real test comes when ambient temp is about 85F and the vho's are blazing away. i've always needed a desk fan in the late spring, summer, and early fall but so far so good (altho the weather hasn't been horrible yet). the benefit of this over the desk fan (assuming this will work) is the lack of evaporative cooling and the constant topoffs. it's a direct thermal conduction. altho i now have an auto topoff switch (physh's) with a 5g reservoir. X) never have the stuff when you truly need it, only when you don't. Link to comment
MattGecko Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Tiny, Ya I here you about the evaporation. For those extreme heat days, I have a 3" fan blowing on the flowing water on top of my AQ300. I love your idea and going to definitely give it a try. I wonder if I took an 8" fan an attached it to my 72G. What can I use as a giant heat sink? Thanks Matt Link to comment
tinyreef Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 speaking of which, i got a couple of things for my 72g too! (great minds think alike or was it the sale price that got you too? ) www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=P261-4010 www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=Z19-1050 actually the first one, the big blue heat sink, ain't all that big but it's easy to put on. the second one is bigger but i'm trying to figure a way to use it. : Link to comment
MattGecko Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 Tiny I just fell in love with that tank. Paid $1,000 (tank, stand, built in over flow, ehiem filter, & light strip). Some day I hope to convert it over to a Reef. What did you pay for yours? FW or salt? Yes somithing like that but bigger. I was thinking it could be mounted to the bottom of the tank in the cabinet. Link to comment
tinyreef Posted May 9, 2003 Share Posted May 9, 2003 i paid about $400 for the tank/stand/lightstrip. actually, i wanted them to take the lightstrip back and give me a credit but they would only give me $20 credit so i said 'ef-it' i'll take it anyway. (it's still in the box in a corner) it's a standard owfront tank tho, no drilled overflow. i use the cpr overflow (eh, it's ok). it's my main tank right now (attached pic) but it's getting real crowded. (i should be getting a 300g sometime next year woohoo! ) on the heat sink, you could probably just get some heat sinks and use the fan more effectively too. it doesn't get so bad with my 72g tho because it's in the basement so i'm still thinking about how to set the cooling units up. Link to comment
southpaw23 Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Hi there.... This may be a bit of a newbie question but would you mind posting pics of the CPU cooler...is it just another CPU cooling fan....and if it is....which model would be suitable to cool a 15-18 gallon?... Been having quite a bit of problem with heat (living in a hot and humid country doesnt help either) and have been looking around for cooling options......this sounds pretty viable but i'm having trouble getting the whole picture...mind posting a couple of other pics? and a step by step process of setting it up.... Would really appreciate that......if not....no worries.... Link to comment
Anth Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Computer Peltier (Thermo-Electric Chiller - TEC) heat pumps are quite common in the world of cpu overclockers. They are used in conjunction with a fan and heat sink and i see no reason as to why they coudn't be thermal pasted and super glued onto a glass tank like you're doing with the fans and heat sinks. The Ice Probe unit is advertised as only consuming 50 watts... Hmm... I question the amount of heat u're moving as the unit uses less than 50 watts, and is not/cant be 100% efficient... I have seen computer peltiers rated at over 100 watts, and some go for as low as $30 at computer shows. These are the same solid-state coolers as in coleman 12V fridges... I wonder if you could cannibalize one of those, fit with a fan... Obviously for these peltier coolers u'd need to rig your own power supply and beware!!! no controller.... -Anthony Link to comment
Nishant3789 Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 as low as 30 bux? whats average? link to site that sells em please Link to comment
Anth Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 take a look at a computer show, or i came up with these http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete...ltier/ck500.htm http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Pelts/peltiers.asp http://www.directron.com/watercooling.html NOTE: if the peltier does not include a heat sink/fan, it NEEDS one. I wonder about the ice probe... it's over $100 and uses a <50 watt peltier element... Some of those above are well above 100 watts. Link to comment
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