Neebles Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Sorry this is for a fish that lives normally in a larger tank, but I posted this in another forum. Getting lots of looks but no advise. I set up a QT tank for a couple of fish that I believe caught Ich. 3 fish are in a 20g L tank. A foxface, a yellow clown goby and a sharknose goby. I have been treating with cupramine. The Sharknose and YCG are doing fine. They never exhibited symptoms of ich but I want to treat anyway. The foxface on the other hand is incredibly stressed out. He isn't eating, he has his stress camo on, and is hiding as best as possible. The qt tank is in my basement fish room. No one goes in there except for me, so it's nice and quiet. It gets some ambient light from my display tank, but is overall pretty dim. I would have to turn on an overhead light to work in there. I have an ammonia badge set up to monitor that, and change the water every couple of days. The tank itself has 2 sponge filters and an ac70 (sponge only) for water movement and aeration. At this point I don't know if the foxface is going to make it. I don't think the level of stress he is under is going to allow him to any better. Honestly I expect to go down there and check on him and see him dead. It's not like I'm down there poking at him or even peering at him all day. I check the tank a couple of times a day by poking my head in the doorway and staying as far away as I can. Anything I can/should do? Should I cut the cupramine and try hypo? What would be a good course of action? Does anyone have a larger qt set up that wants to give it a shot? At this point I would be willing to give him away if there is a chance that someone else can make him better. I can only do what I can do and just feel frustrated at the whole situation. Link to comment
Jellyingabout Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Firstly get a fine airstone in the QT tank, when stressed fish can struggle to respirate efficiently. Plus many treatments can strip water from the tank (not sure if cupramine does though but it can't hurt to be safe), plus even in a FO QT tank, if its new oxygen levels can drop quiet low initially. Foxfaces hate being moved, it doesn't take too much of a change to get their colours on if they are already a bit off colour, without knowing more or without pictures I can't say anymore. Are you able to remove the other two fish? has the foxface got somewhere it can escape from the others? Link to comment
thomas8man Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Sorry this is for a fish that lives normally in a larger tank, but I posted this in another forum. Getting lots of looks but no advise. I set up a QT tank for a couple of fish that I believe caught Ich. 3 fish are in a 20g L tank. A foxface, a yellow clown goby and a sharknose goby. I have been treating with cupramine. The Sharknose and YCG are doing fine. They never exhibited symptoms of ich but I want to treat anyway. The foxface on the other hand is incredibly stressed out. He isn't eating, he has his stress camo on, and is hiding as best as possible. The qt tank is in my basement fish room. No one goes in there except for me, so it's nice and quiet. It gets some ambient light from my display tank, but is overall pretty dim. I would have to turn on an overhead light to work in there. I have an ammonia badge set up to monitor that, and change the water every couple of days. The tank itself has 2 sponge filters and an ac70 (sponge only) for water movement and aeration. At this point I don't know if the foxface is going to make it. I don't think the level of stress he is under is going to allow him to any better. Honestly I expect to go down there and check on him and see him dead. It's not like I'm down there poking at him or even peering at him all day. I check the tank a couple of times a day by poking my head in the doorway and staying as far away as I can. Anything I can/should do? Should I cut the cupramine and try hypo? What would be a good course of action? Does anyone have a larger qt set up that wants to give it a shot? At this point I would be willing to give him away if there is a chance that someone else can make him better. I can only do what I can do and just feel frustrated at the whole situation. It is just ambient light that is on the tank no other light ? Link to comment
Neebles Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yeah just ambient light. I have an overhead light and a nanobox I could be using but I always heard for qt purposes keeping it dim is better for reduced stress Firstly get a fine airstone in the QT tank, when stressed fish can struggle to respirate efficiently. Plus many treatments can strip water from the tank (not sure if cupramine does though but it can't hurt to be safe), plus even in a FO QT tank, if its new oxygen levels can drop quiet low initially. Foxfaces hate being moved, it doesn't take too much of a change to get their colours on if they are already a bit off colour, without knowing more or without pictures I can't say anymore. Are you able to remove the other two fish? has the foxface got somewhere it can escape from the others? I have 2 along filters which are putting more than enough oxygen into the water, not to mention the surface agitation of the ac70. As far as the other fish, I don't think its a matter of getting away as its a sharknose goby, which is an inch long and skinny, and the other is a yellow flow goby who is also about an inch long. the sharknose hangs out in his own piece of pvc, and the YCG hangs out behind a spong filter. Link to comment
Jellyingabout Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The other fish may be small and tame but the foxface may not be feel all to rational. A big dog can be scared of a tiny dog. If everything is in order then there is not much else you can do but let him calm down. Just keep him really stable and hope for the best, the change of tank is what probably stressed him out with the ich will have made him a bit prone to stress. I wouldn't stop medicating unless I could know that the medication was harming more than I know the ich is harming him. I don't have any experience with cupramine personally so I don't know. Link to comment
Neebles Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 The other fish may be small and tame but the foxface may not be feel all to rational. A big dog can be scared of a tiny dog. If everything is in order then there is not much else you can do but let him calm down. Just keep him really stable and hope for the best, the change of tank is what probably stressed him out with the ich will have made him a bit prone to stress. I wouldn't stop medicating unless I could know that the medication was harming more than I know the ich is harming him. I don't have any experience with cupramine personally so I don't know. Ok thanks. Yeah im keeping the params steady, and the meds going... He seems to be a bit better over the last 2 days...Still stressed, and not swimming around a whole lot, but overall he just looks better. He isnt full on camo, he isnt breathing hard anymore, so I think he is (hopefully) on the up and up. Link to comment
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