qascooter Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hey everyone! I picked up my 30 gallon Jalli cube last night and am in the process of setting it up. I couldn't find any information on this tank anywhere, except at the LFS. The Tank dimensions are 24x18.5x???. I didn't measure the internal dimensions or the height (yet). It looks like the same setup in the back of a Finnex M-Tank. The tank cost me $350. The lights are 2 2x55, one 50/50, one daytime. Haven't turned the lights on yet. I did take some pictures though... Box Label Box Tank, Still in wrapper Tank - Unwrapped Tank - Side view Side view - Close up Skimmer Anybody know what size pump this is? It's the Skimmer pump What about this one? It's the return pump This tank even has the 8 - 3/16" holes drilled like the M-Tank I plan on putting it all together tomorrow. The LFS I got it from is called Far West Tropical Fish & Pond supply. Talk to is Rich Arnett. 951-698-FISH (3474). If you end up talking to him, tell him Scott sent you! I'll post more as I go along. I plan on adding two 1/2" bulkheads and a SCWD here in the next few days. So what do you all think??? Link to comment
rjg Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 That looks pretty cool.. It reminds me of a Via Aqua tank, but the VAs don't have the false wall... Link to comment
Izzue Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 I likes it I really like the way the hood with lights are designed compared to my M-Tank-- Thats a total of 220 watt PC on 30 gal-- that should be good lighting-- maybe even SPS on the top With that hood design-- looks like yu could mod to VHO or MH later down the road if you ever wanted (would cause more heat) Good Luck-- Keep up posted ---- becareful acrylic scratchs easily--- never mind if its glass, now I see the plastic guards on top and bottom-- so I bet its glass Izzue Link to comment
qascooter Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Thanks Izzue, It's only 110 watts total 2x55. Sorry about that. I see four tubes and think it's 4 separate tubes. Doohhh! There is a whole lot of room under the hood though. I was thinking T5's or a MH setup. I've gotta wait until the budget catches up, and the rock cures before I do anything about lights. Oh, and the tank is glass. Thicker than the JBJ 24. I don't know the thickness, but had the opportunity to check it at the LFS against a cracked JBJ. There was three of us using our fingers as gauges to see if the glass was thicker. It definitely was. It would be nice to put some calipers on it, but I don't have a pair. Hmmmm... Link to comment
SaltCreep Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 that is shweeeeet!!! you dont know of any online dealers that carry em? Link to comment
qascooter Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hey ######, I couldn't find any mention of the tank through google. Call up Rich. I don't know if he'd ship to you. If he can't/won't, my guess is he'll point you to somebody that would/could. 951-698-3474 Far West is in Murrieta, CA that is shweeeeet!!! you dont know of any online dealers that carry em? Link to comment
ebin Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 what did you pay for this? Link to comment
kinetic Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 that' looks cool! definately almost the same as an m-tank. good find keep us updated! throw a 70watt or 150watt hqi into that hood Link to comment
qascooter Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 what did you pay for this? $350. Dang, I forgot to add this to the original post... Link to comment
ebin Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 wow you could have hung a metal halide pendant over a 30 oceanic cube for that. plus had cash left over for lots of beer. cool that it is ready to go. plug and play will cost ya I guess. shoot me a pm I would love to check that thing out. You are in murrieta right? Link to comment
qascooter Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 wow you could have hung a metal halide pendant over a 30 oceanic cube for that.plus had cash left over for lots of beer. cool that it is ready to go. plug and play will cost ya I guess. shoot me a pm I would love to check that thing out. You are in murrieta right? I thought about that. I would have wanted to make a false back for the Oceanic. Then there is the skimmer, and return pump. I probably could have saved a few bucks, but I'm happy with the height of this tank (Less than the Oceanic), and 24 inches wide, which more lighting options exist for it. Ahhh - decisions, decisions... Link to comment
qascooter Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 I measured the tank this morning. 24"x18"x16.5" . The viewing area is 24"x13.5". The back area is 4" deep. The light fixture is wierd. It's two halves put together over a smaller light. Adds a good 6 inches in depth to the light. It also has four feet that slide in this track to raise the light off the tank about 4 to 6 inches. So it can be directly on top of the tank (like the pic above) or raised up on legs. And the fan on the lights is loud. Do I even need the fan for these PCs? Link to comment
SaltCreep Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 I wouldnt worry about fans. PC's dont generate too much heat. I think this tank awesome. I look forward to updates. Link to comment
qascooter Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 Alrighty now, I got the tank up and running this weekend! Lots of fun. I've added a SCWD (still have the stock pump), and took a few quick pics. SCWD from the top. The LFS didn't have the proper barb setup so I improvised with stuff from Lowes. Front & Side. This is the first stab at arranging the rock. I've got a bit over 30 lbs in there. I like the left side, and the right side isn't quite there yet. Does anybody know offhand what the coral is? I got it with the live rock from the LFS this weekend. It seemed really happy when it got some light. It was in a box when I picked it up. Hmmm... Also, I'm getting fine bubbles from the skimmer making their way back into the tank. Gotta play with the settings of the skimmer. So what do you all think? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment
aural Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I <3 your tank! i need to find a place to buy one!!! Link to comment
qascooter Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 Update! So the tank has been cycling, and I've been on a quest to make it silent, except for the splashing of water. This is not an easy feat. So I tried a Rio 1700 for the return. Too noisy. I've also tried a friends dolphin 560 with a chewed-up impellor, and it's relatively quiet (not silent), and seems to push a good amount of flow. I'm running a SCWD, and each bulkhead has a y-splitter on it to give two separate directions per nozzle. This cuts the flow in 1/2 at the nozzle. The flow with this 560 seems nice. With just one nozzle per bulkhead the flow is substantial. The back compartment sounds like a waterfall. Might be a bit much. Either some holes in the back compartment or that black filter stuff to diffuse the flow over the wall. The big noise generator now is the skimmer, which clearly drowns out all other sounds with it's vibrating sound. I don't know if a different pump will help with the noise of this beast. It's working well, generating some tan/brown foam and tea colored water in the cup. I'm thinking about running without the skimmer, but I'll post that question as a different post. I'm still looking for the perfect pump, one that will pump at least 500 gph, but yet be silent, as in no background drone. This should be enough flow to power the two nozzles per bulkhead, and give the tank enough flow in general. Any suggestions? Thanks! Link to comment
paul21 Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 very nice tank , but y not a finnex anyways wa kind of live rock is that? Link to comment
qascooter Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 wa kind of live rock is that? Fiji & Tonga branch mix Link to comment
kinetic Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 nice !! what kind of skimmer? Looks like a venturi. Get a longer air hose, but otherwise it'll be loud. try to go for a needle wheel, those I heard are quieter. for the pump, look into Quiet One pumps by Pentairaquatics.com Link to comment
qascooter Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 nice !! what kind of skimmer? Looks like a venturi. Get a longer air hose, but otherwise it'll be loud. try to go for a needle wheel, those I heard are quieter. for the pump, look into Quiet One pumps by Pentairaquatics.com Thanks for the info Koden! Link to comment
qascooter Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Update! The tank has been running since Dec 1, and doing quite well. Copepods showed up and I've added a few frags from friends. I also changed the plumbing around a bit. I changed the main pump with a Rio 2100. T'd off the main feed to the skimmer, inserting a rio venturi bubble maker device. Had to drill a hole through the bulkhead to make this all work. So now the tank is running off of one pump, with a SCWD. Flow is adequate, and could be a bit more, but honestly, if it is higher, the water level rises too high on the back wall. The only fix for this would be a PH in the tank. I don't really want to because of looks, but we'll see. So check out the pics. What do you all think?!? Link to comment
ebin Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Looks like this is really coming together for you scooter. great Job Link to comment
qascooter Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 Looks like this is really coming together for you scooter. great Job Thanks Ebin, I'm stoked on how well it's doing. I have to put a big chunk of foam, at an angle, to catch and filter the air bubbles the skimmer puts out, but no big deal. It also filters any big stuff, so I guess it's a good thing. So the LFS Crystal Cove is also carrying this tank now, as well as the Aquapod, Nano, and M-Tank. Cool. The guy over there (Mike) asked me if I got the MH version?!? He told me he could get it for me for $189. Basically a 150 HQI MH with 2x55 PC's. I'm planning on modding my hood at some point. I've already got the 2x55 PC's, just need the MH, or T5's. I want the color to be SWEET. Anybody have any opinions? Link to comment
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