Reef Chicks Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Anyone ever heard of these guys? They are out of Taiwan and are quoting me a very attractive price for 4 units that fit my awkward shaped tank (half circle) beautifully. Any help in figuring out if these are worth buying would be greatly appreciated! http://www.thortek.com.tw/index.php?lang=EN Link to comment
DCG1286 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 There is a member on Manhattan Reefs from Taiwan that has these fixtures ... gorgeous tanks ... I will look for the link. He is one of the featured aquariums ... user name "Cozer" ... he has an all zoa tank and then a mixed reef ... sps etc.etc. I am looking in these fixtures as well! Link to comment
Reef Chicks Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 I have seen all of Cozer's tanks, but something tells me he is directly involved with the company. BTW, if you are looking into them, there is someone in NY that is ordering these with me since we get a better deal on a bigger buy and save on shipping too. If you want to join our order (when and IF we make it), you are welcome to do so. Link to comment
DCG1286 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I have seen all of Cozer's tanks, but something tells me he is directly involved with the company.BTW, if you are looking into them, there is someone in NY that is ordering these with me since we get a better deal on a bigger buy and save on shipping too. If you want to join our order (when and IF we make it), you are welcome to do so. I had that feeling as well! lol Oh wow ... you have a price for a 48" fixture? LMK! I would really be interested in joining in on this! Who is the other one from NY if you don't mind my asking. Link to comment
Reef Chicks Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 No, I have a very weird tank (half a circle), so it has lots of euro-bracing that would not allow light to penetrate. But still, I got quoted for 2 24" fixtures for the frontg and back in the center, and 2 12" fixtures for each of the sides, left and right. I do believe the 48" fixture was $580. I have to look at my emails, but I am pretty sure it's in that range, which isn't bad. The guy in NY is not on this site. I'll pm you some info as soon as I have it, and yes, you are most definately welcome to join our order. That would make it less for all of us, and in turn it will make it less of a risk for everybody. Link to comment
DCG1286 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 No, I have a very weird tank (half a circle), so it has lots of euro-bracing that would not allow light to penetrate. But still, I got quoted for 2 24" fixtures for the frontg and back in the center, and 2 12" fixtures for each of the sides, left and right. I do believe the 48" fixture was $580. I have to look at my emails, but I am pretty sure it's in that range, which isn't bad. The guy in NY is not on this site. I'll pm you some info as soon as I have it, and yes, you are most definately welcome to join our order. That would make it less for all of us, and in turn it will make it less of a risk for everybody. Nice ... that sounds like an awesome build you have there ... a little difficult to light up but none the less awesome! Count me in ... seriously ... count me in. Link to comment
cbachman Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 any reviews of those products? they look pretty amazing! Link to comment
evilc66 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Nice looking fixtures. My only concern is how low power everything is. The LEDs are only running at 1W, so overall PAR isn't going to be super high, especially at greater depths. Link to comment
Reef Chicks Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Oh wait! The guy emailed me something about making the LEDS in the main 2 units more powerful... let me look at my emails! Link to comment
Reef Chicks Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 EMAIL FROM THEM: Please take a look at the layout figure for you! Since our LED lamps are designed for tank with depth less than 24", we recommend you to have all the lamps installed with optical lens to increase the light penetration. Although this will decrease the area covered by the concentrated light, but these two sets will still provide enough light to cover the whole tank area! The 36" typical fixture cost $470 USD, and the 48" typical fixture costs $580 USD (shipping fee not included!). The cost for the two sets shipping from Taiwan to US will be about $200~250 USD (exact value need to be further confirmed!) If you decide to buy both sets, we can offer you the price $1,000 USD (shipping fee not included!) Link to comment
cbachman Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 God those look cool!! 1 watt a piece dose seem a little low. Does that worry any one? Link to comment
harthag12 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Good question. I actually emailed them Thursday after seeing Cozers tank as well asking about a 12" unit. Here's the reply I got from them. Hello Ian! Nice to have your mail! The price for the 14" Typical fixture is $165 USD (shipping fee not included) The specification is: 14" Typical fixture (14”in length, 7” in width, 2” in height): (a) 12 white Hi-power LED lamps (6300K, 1.25W/lamp) ( 6 blue Hi-power LED lamps (470nm, 1.25W/lamp) © 8 Low-power red LED lamps (660nm) (d) 8 Low-power moonlight LED lamps (e) 1 cooling fan, (f) 2 hanging hooks (optional, need further charge) (g) 2 legs (movable) (h) 3 independent switches for controlling (i) white (ii) blue (iii) red (i) 3 independent plugs for (i) white (ii) blue and red (iii) moonlight (j) 4 painting colors for choice: Black, Yellow, Red, Pearl white The price for the 12" Slim fixture is $110 USD (shipping fee not included) The specification is: 12" Slim fixture (12”in length, 3 ” in width, 2 ” in height): (a) 6 white Hi-power LED lamps (6300K, 1.25W/lamp) ( 6 blue Hi-power LED lamps (470nm, 1.25W/lamp) (g) 2 legs (movable) (h) 2 independent switches for controlling (i) white (ii) blue (i) 2 independent plugs for (i) white (ii) blue (j) Black painting color The pics of both 14" Typica land 12" Slim fixtures and our warranty are attached! The shipping fee for either 14" or 12" from Taiwan to US will be less than $100 USD. Please feel free to contact us for any further question or information! Thank you! Regards, ThorTek Inc. Link to comment
Reef Chicks Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 A friend of mine (who shall remain name-less... lol) pm'd me this: The placement of the blue and white LED's should be alternating. Not having the blues and whites in a single line. That will create a linear line of color in the tank not the well blended color saturations that you want/need. Something to consider. Link to comment
cbachman Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 That is a good point too. Doesnt the website ask for your tank specs so they know what to make you? Does this mean that it might be possible for them to just make a custome one with a bulb arrangement of your choice? They seem pretty customer friendly. Link to comment
evilc66 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 A friend of mine (who shall remain name-less... lol) pm'd me this: The placement of the blue and white LED's should be alternating. Not having the blues and whites in a single line. That will create a linear line of color in the tank not the well blended color saturations that you want/need. Something to consider. Thats a very good point especially considering the use of optics. Link to comment
JoshG Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Having them alternating isn't an option according to them. "Our products have 4 colors for selection: black, red, pearl white, and yellow! We are sorry that the layout of the lamps are not changeable. We use LED strips which are composed of six LED lamps of same color. The mix of light is definitely ok since the lighting angle per lamp is 160 degree. Blue and white light can well overlap to each other! Regards, ThorTek Inc." Link to comment
cbachman Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Having them alternating isn't an option according to them. "Our products have 4 colors for selection: black, red, pearl white, and yellow! We are sorry that the layout of the lamps are not changeable. We use LED strips which are composed of six LED lamps of same color. The mix of light is definitely ok since the lighting angle per lamp is 160 degree. Blue and white light can well overlap to each other! Regards, ThorTek Inc." So does that mean since the angle is so great there should be no problem blending the colors? None of the customer tanks look like they have any problems with the colors not mixing well. Link to comment
evilc66 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Once you start adding optics it creates more of an issue. We don't know the angle to make a decent judgement though. Link to comment
JoshG Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Once you start adding optics it creates more of an issue. We don't know the angle to make a decent judgement though. The angle is 160 degrees from the email they sent me above. Link to comment
evilc66 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Thats just the bare LED. They have options for adding optics of an undisclosed angle. Link to comment
cbachman Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thats just the bare LED. They have options for adding optics of an undisclosed angle. Does the customer pic the angle? If so what angle would be best? Link to comment
mg4015 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 from what i have read, an 80 degree or tighter angle lens is what would work well. any other opinions? Link to comment
evilc66 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Does the customer pic the angle? If so what angle would be best? Probably not. I'm sure it's just a yes or no option. from what i have read, an 80 degree or tighter angle lens is what would work well. any other opinions? If the color layout was better, you could go with something like 60 degree optics to bump output. With the current layout though, there would be some pretty noticable color banding. Link to comment
cbachman Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Why are there red LED's included on the fixture? Link to comment
subielover Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 They mentioned that it helps to bring out the best colors in their fish. Link to comment
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