er1c_the_reefer Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 I have a 120g tank, SPS dominated. Currently, most of my flow comes from 4 tunze nanostreams (6025x2 and 6045x2, which I'm going to sell if anyone's interested after I get stronger pumps) and two eductors. I'm getting maybe 40x turnover all together, depending on the eductor flowrate. I'm aiming for higher turnover and less microbubbles. Right now, the eductors are spitting out microbubbles, probably because I tee'd off the return to run a chiller, and from excessive bubbles from the Euro-Reef skimmer. I'm thinking that if I can cut down return flow, I could reduce the microbubbles coming into the tank, but that would mean I'd have to depend on powerheads to get more flow. I'm also planning to use loc-line to bring the returns down behind the rock work to stir up the detritus from back there. Which means I'll be getting a stronger pump. I was thinking about switching over to the Tunze TS24 kit, which includes 2 Tunze 6100's on a multicontroller. Each 6100 spits out up to 3175gph, and I'd have them alternating back and forth in the tank. Price is a hefty $884.54 at marinedepot, but I think I can get them a little cheaper used. However, then I saw this beast: The Resun Waver-15000. Getting this would go against my policy of "what you get is what you pay for;" they do seem too good to be true. I contacted the retailer based in China, and right now they only have the 220v-240v model, which won't work here in the states. In about 2 weeks, the 110v-120v model will be released for sale to the US. They run around $115 each + shipping from China and includes the controller. I'd be getting two, so they be around $375-$400 shipped. Less than half the price of the Tunzes. So here's what it's capable of: Small Wave - 6.5W-2000l/h 530gph- 10-20s Medium Wave - 12.5W - 8000l/h 2116gph - 5-15s Large Wave - 25W - 15000l/h 3967gph - 2-10s The following pictures come from here. 2000 l/h: 8000 l/h: 15,000 l/h: Compared to Tunze: 4000 l/h: 12,000 l/h: and Seio: 6,000 l/h: Problem so far is the size: It's big. Check out the size compared to a Seio 1100. Anybody have any opinions? Whichever pump I end up getting, I think I'm still going to be running two Tunze nanostreams. I just need to make up for lost flow from the eductors. Link to comment
Wonder Boy Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 I'd buy once and go with the better quality; you'll always wish you had. Other than that I wish the vortech would come down into my range. Link to comment
er1c_the_reefer Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Problem is, $350 for a powerhead, which to me is money better spent on coral. I've seen the Vortech in person, and I'll admit they're pretty amazing. However, you can't adjust the nozzle, which makes Tunzes a little more flexible. Link to comment
Wonder Boy Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Problem is, $350 for a powerhead, which to me is money better spent on coral. I've seen the Vortech in person, and I'll admit they're pretty amazing. However, you can't adjust the nozzle, which makes Tunzes a little more flexible. Way too much... the bleeding edge is expensive. Link to comment
er1c_the_reefer Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 i guess tunze it is huh? Link to comment
mvite Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 huh? Dude--you are the real mfn deal. I will buy a nanostream or two...... Link to comment
Tangman1218 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Dude--you are the real mfn deal. I will buy a nanostream or two...... Same here. For the right price. BTW, can I have one of those MPS' you have?? Have you also thought about external pump(s)? Sequence kick arse man. JAT Tang Link to comment
er1c_the_reefer Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 MPS? Are you talking about setting up a closed loop? I don't wanna go through the hassle... Link to comment
Tangman1218 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 MPS? Are you talking about setting up a closed loop? I don't wanna go through the hassle... Well, I have plenty of sps and lps......but i was looking for some of those mps! Yes, a closed loop for half as much. I understand not wanting to go through the hassle though... Tang Link to comment
er1c_the_reefer Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 lol... i have some leptastrea growing out... its not LPS or SPS... must be MPS. lol so what pump should i get?!?!?! Link to comment
Tangman1218 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 lol... i have some leptastrea growing out... its not LPS or SPS... must be MPS. lolso what pump should i get?!?!?! The wide flow pattern looks good from the photos you posted, but it's made in China. I suppose "some" good stuff gets made there, but Im not a fan of anything made in Asia. Got my reasons I suppose. If you decide against the ones I mentioned for closed loop, go with Tunzes. Having the controller will be a major plus also. BTW, this is the 400th post! Tang Link to comment
er1c_the_reefer Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 resun waver comes with a controller too... so tempting... Link to comment
Tangman1218 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 so tempting... How bout you do this. Buy one and see if you like it. Use it for 3-4 months and see if its worth it. At least this way if it burns up, youll only be out 1 pump. Tang Link to comment
mvite Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 resun waver comes with a controller too... so tempting... Er1c--How do you have one of the Momo brand right in front of you? I thought they woulnd't be released for 2 weeks or something. How did you get one to photograph? Link to comment
formerly icyuodd/icyoud2 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 my lfs has the tunze wave box on a 125g. it would be worth some serious consideration. it rocks! Link to comment
xoshagsox Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 have you considered the maxi stream mod? it pushes out a lot of wide current for a compact size. only thing is that there is no controller. the benifits are that they are very compact and that it can be done for around $40. if you want, you can check out my maxi 1200 in a 110g tank. Link to comment
er1c_the_reefer Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 m - those pictures are taken off some sites from malaysia where it's already been released. so far their reviews are good. so far... icy - them waveboxes scare me. lol i'd be scared that water would come fly out one side of my tank... besides i don't have anywhere i'd be able to mount it and hide it. shags - how hard does the maxi stream mod push? i need something upwards 3000+ gph... Link to comment
formerly icyuodd/icyoud2 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 m - those pictures are taken off some sites from malaysia where it's already been released. so far their reviews are good. so far... icy - them waveboxes scare me. lol i'd be scared that water would come fly out one side of my tank... besides i don't have anywhere i'd be able to mount it and hide it. shags - how hard does the maxi stream mod push? i need something upwards 3000+ gph... i've had the tunze nanosteam for a few weeks. i gotta tell ya, if the larger pumps are anything like the smaller unit, i wouldn't waste your money. i've run into noise issues, the 2 1/2's of the pump have seperated a few times. the bracket that holds the powerhead has also lost alot of its memory in the first 3 weeks. i can see this being a real problem in a few months, when theres not enough strength in the plastic to hold the pump up. thier big and ugly. Link to comment
FAC_WNY Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Tunze Streams all the way. (unless you're going to pick up some of the new Vortechs... ) They're an incredible quality pump..I've heard/seen nothing but good things from them. Cheers, Fred Link to comment
supernip Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 how much are you pushing your used nanostreams for? Link to comment
FAC_WNY Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Pushing? lol You need a nanostream "fix", Nip? Cheers, Fred Link to comment
er1c_the_reefer Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 i actually like my nanostreams. yes, there were noise issues, but it seems to have gone away... i can't hear it unless i put my ear up against the glass. the start up, however, still rattles. i was thinking about the vortechs too. but the thing i don't like about the vortech is that you can't move it around, it only aims in one direction. and i haven't really decided on a set price yet... i'm not getting rid of them until i get a bigger pump Link to comment
Travis Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I just got a pair of the nanostreams and mine are almost dead silent, sooooo much quieter than the maxi-jets. I'm throwin' in a vote for Tunze. Link to comment
Tangman1218 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I just got a pair of the nanostreams and mine are almost dead silent, sooooo much quieter than the maxi-jets. I'm throwin' in a vote for Tunze. Are you the guy who had maxi jet issues and sleeping at night?? If so, then I'll throw another vote in for Tunze's cause my maxi's are dead silent! Tang Link to comment
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