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  1. Thank you for the replies, and for explaining Steve. I was thinking more a vertical design to deal with the two sets of slats and still make water flow correctly through all media: like a skinny, "1st (media) chamber" length-wise, the height of the entire cube chamber and only about 1" thick for floss, with a solid backing and the opening at the bottom to force flow upward into all the rest of the chambers, creating an inverse basket to overflow into cube chamber 2. But ultimately that's pretty specialized I realize now. In my perfect vision the basket would be a totally vertical design so the first section would be the 1" all floss, and the second would be 1ish" where the water would flow through media bags also positioned vertically, making it thin enough for a heater to fit behind it. But I would never expect something to be made that was some perfect vision just for my tank. lol Was just curious about the idea of various chamber positions and if you had kicked that around at all. Thanks for the suggestion @luckie1966. I will check those out. I am considering putting a skimmer back in (was looking at ReefGlass).
  2. My bad, I mistook the post about having GFCI surge protectors as the OP. And again, I don't really understand this arguing thing. I never said it wouldn't trip if you throw it in a bathtub full of water. I said that salt water dripping onto it may not trip it and isn't a great strategy for avoiding a potential fire. You explain later in this post that electricity flows from one prong to the other. Salt water has no reason to disturb that flow as the salt ions are an excellent conductor of electricity. IMO you can not assume salt water would disturb electricity the way regular water - which is an absolutely terrible conductor of electricity - would. Where would the imbalance of flow come in to play with salt water when salt water conducts electricity without disturbance? If there is no imbalance there is no tripping of the surge protection. ---------------------------- To the OP: I too rec some type of surge protector strips rather than just a strip that changes your two outlets into 6, for your own bodily protection. I'm sorry if I insinuated you should just use a common extension cord; that wasn't my intention, and I thought you were using surge protectors when this happened. But I also wouldn't lay them back on the floor and IMO it is location and protective measures others listed that are the best option to avoid fire-related issues due to the nature of salt water vs plain water. The individual switch strips in a surge protector are more costly. I found amazon to have the best price at about $35/strip. Also, IMO, I would try to avoid ones with USBs built in unless you have devices that are USB powered to plug in to them. I see no reason to have constantly-open ports around our salt tanks, when that is just another place for bad things like salt creep or salt water to sneak in and cause problems. Good Luck!!
  3. You misunderstand. I never said it wouldn't trip. I said GFCIs are NOT made to prevent FIRES, which is what this thread is supposed to be talking about, per the OPs description. To your second point: sure, GFCIs are better than nothing to prevent a house fire, but no better than a grounding probe. ~shrug~ They are both designed to prevent YOU from frying, not your house. Could they possibly be helpful in preventing a house fire? Sure... it's reasonable that they are better than nothing. Could they be MORE effective than simply mounting your electrical equipment better (different location, with a cover, with drip loops, etc)? Mmmm... I dunno. Clearly the OP experienced salt water on his GFCI protector and it was smoking so... And to me, that makes sense. A GFCI, from my understanding, trips when the hot wire and neutral wire have imbalanced electrical flow of at least 6 amps. Problem (again) salt water is an excellent electrical conductor so there is very little reason to assume the electrical flow would be interrupted in the way it would if a person is being electrocuted (where the electricity is actually traveling in from an outlet and out through a human body - so two different locations where the amps would be able to be different), if salt water simply drips on/into the outlet and the electricity continues to flow freely because it isn't going anywhere 'off route' from normal. Don't forget, the OP is asking about house fires. They bought GFCIs so they clearly already understand how to protect themselves against electrocution and don't need it explained to them. I find that's something we do a LOT on fish forums - explain what is already understood and offer no info about what was asked. They asked about protection for fires, and they already tried GFCI surge protectors. PS - and also don't forget, we aren't talking about just "water" as you mentioned (and I would agree that plain water will trip a GFCI - that's literally it's sole purpose for existence), we are talking about a natural, highly efficient, conductor of electricity - salt water.
  4. As I stated, GFCIs will prevent YOU from frying, but not your house. They are made for wet areas. AFCIs are made to prevent FIRE but not made for wet areas. For this reason, neither is a perfect fit for our hobby. Obviously not being killed by electrocution is a good thing but it won't stop what the OP is asking for help with.
  5. Nothing will completely stop disasters. If you read about GFCIs vs AFCIs, GFCIs are said to prevent about 50% of electrocutions, while AFCIs are said to prevent about 50% of FIRES. Problem is, GFCIs are for wet areas and AFCIs aren't so... ~shrug~ neither is too helpful for an aquarium. It's a false sense of protection either way IMO when it comes to our hobby, especially for saltwater - a natural, and very efficient, conductor of electricity. I guess with GFCIs at least you won't fry, but your house still will in the situation you described. To me, the best way to avoid water (and still this isn't 100%) spilling all over your outlets is to hang them. I use the velcro Command strips and I hang my strips high so the cords hang down but the water would have to travel 2+ feet upward to actually hit a strip, and I hang only either on the stand on the back chamber side of my AIO or on a wall with some bit of separation away from the main tank (like 4-5 inches). If there is enough room to lay them on the floor then there is enough room to stick them to the wall or stand. I too have one particularly big Zebra Striped Turbo who likes to sit on the return and make it splash. Big-little shit! so the power strips are placed where the spray wouldn't go. I'd say that is your truly safest bet. Also, I too prefer strips with individual switches. This has no bearing on the safety issue, but it is much more convenient and allows you to label each one and shut off just the equip you need to shut off individually.
  6. I guess this is more a request or suggestion than a question. I love my (Oceanic) Biocube InTank media basket, but it does limit my ability to really take advantage of the single truly versatile space in the biocube. Given that the first chamber in the biocube barely holds any of the most popular skimmers (so many have to be housed in chamber 2), why the decision to make the media basket for Chamber 2 instead of Chamber 1? Is it because the heater really needs to be housed in chamber 1 for the safety of the constant water level or was Chamber 1 just not considered? I would love to see a chamber 1 media basket version. Preferably one thin enough to still accommodate a small heater behind it for reason stated.
  7. The single complaint about the Maxijet 1200 on Amazon is how loud it is. I am trying to avoid my fish having to live in a construction site with constant loud noise and vibration. Even a loud pump isn't that big of deal for me, but I don't have to experience the sound and vibration constantly like the tank occupants do and I don't believe it's a great environment to give an animal.
  8. For those asking about the tank, you can buy one from Wish (or probably any of those other internet 'random discounted things' sites as well).
  9. If they don't move they are happy where they are. Moving is not desirable; you want them to stay put.
  10. I have tops. the holding tank one didn't fit snug due to the fish jail. But at this point I just need to decide if I'm going to try again with another clown and hope my girl isn't aggressive towards it, or just get one or two entirely different tank mates. that's why I'm looking for suggestions. I don't really know what else I would put with her. She's not big by any means. As mentioned she's maybe 5 years old now, and she's... I dunno (staring at her while I'm typing this), just a couple inches long, maybe 2.5. I mean, she's not small, but she's not one of those large clowns you see sometimes in LFS's either. She's just kind of a B. lol
  11. I looked up 10 gallon wall mounted tank. Are your dimensions 5 feet long by 6 inches deep? I mean... honestly fish swim back and forth so it may feel a lot bigger to a fish than a traditional tank that is more gallons. If you've had it a yearly now and nothing is wrong with it then I wouldn't really change your husbandry habits now. Why try to fix what isn't broken?
  12. Yes, I am sad that he is gone. He was in fish jail for too long and I knew I needed to get on getting that other tank set up. I drug my feet too long and feel very guilty that he finally just wanted out and thought he was going to be in the forever. I would have moved him in just ~two weeks more, letting the tank get a mini cycle in with established rock before moving him, so that really makes me sad that I didn't move on that sooner and he may not have jumped out trying to get back into the larger space (he still had the width of the tank but obv much less space than the full holding tank). Thank you.
  13. They were in a holding tank; a fluval 13. She will be moved back to a biocube 29 by end of month (which is where she lived with brother). PS - she would shake and occasionally hit bro with tail but she never tore his fins. Ps - I say "she" but I have no idea if she actually changed sexes. She was slightly bigger than brother and dominant, and def dom over the blk/wht.
  14. Sometime yesterday while I was at work my black/wht clown jumped out of his fish jail (he was in a protected area due to female picking on him and completely removing his dorsal fin) and died, dried on the floor. So sad. I got him as a new baby and he only lived a year. If he could have held out maybe two weeks longer he'd have been in a bigger tank but it didn't work out that way. I am now facing whether to get another clown or to leave my one as a single clown. Originally I got her with her brother maybe 4-5 years ago now. she would sometimes pick on her brother but nothing like she did with the blk/wht guy. She is traditional colors snowflake. Maybe she was especially upset by the blk/wht because he was so different looking than her brother or maybe she just never wanted another clown after her brother (died in rock slide during a move). Opinions: should I try another clown? Maybe this time going back to traditional colors would help? Or leave her as a single clown and just get some other random fish so she isn't in the tank alone? I'm almost definitely going to move away from salt to a planted tank for a while after she passes, but the info out there suggests anywhere from now until 5 more years before that happens, and that's only the most prominent theories (some go to the 20+ year mark). She will be with me her entire life. I got her as a new fry with her brother and I wouldn't send her away to possibly die in a bad tank situation. So maybe she'll be with me for a long more time or a little more time. To give her another clown or not??
  15. I have a rock (let me live my fantasy that they are all contained in one rock! lol) that has a population of bristle worms inside. It sits alone in one corner of the tank and occasionally I'll see a worm reach out for some falling pellets. My Brittle star recently took up residence under that rock and has hung out there for a couple weeks now. I decided I couldn't take the creepy crawlies anymore (I know they aren't bad hitchhikers) and took the rock out of my tank. When I moved the rock. the brittle star literally had an arm inter twined with one of the bristle worms (which I grabbed with a spoon and chucked out into the Michigan winter!). I think my star enjoyed these prickly tourists in my tank. I think he may have fallen in love. lol