devil Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 how many fish can I put in a 30 gal bowfront FOWLR with a skimmer? will it help if I add a wetdry filter? I heard that it is possible to keep 10 fish in such a tank is it true??? Link to comment
mattdog Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 10? I would say no. But it really depends on what type of fish that you would want to keep. You don't want to go adding tangs or angels in any number to that tank, nor do you want to overstock it with damsels. I would say 5 at the most, at least until you get a feel for what kind of bio-load that system can handle. HTH, Matt Link to comment
devil Posted May 27, 2002 Author Share Posted May 27, 2002 my thought was: 2 clownfishes... maybe of diferent tipes. 2 damsels-or not... a few gobies maybe a blenny-or not... no tangs or triggers or angels! maybe buterfly fish-or not... 2+2+4+1+1=10.... or 2+2+2=6.... you get the point. Link to comment
devil Posted May 27, 2002 Author Share Posted May 27, 2002 the tank is: 40 length 20 high 10 on the sides and 20 in the midle (bowfront) what do you say? Link to comment
Smokey Joe Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 The damsels will terrorize every other inhabitant and cause a lot of stress. I'd stick to 4-5 non-aggressive/territorial fish. Link to comment
SLOreefer Posted May 27, 2002 Share Posted May 27, 2002 for the most part two different types of clowns will not live together in that size o ftank. a majority of clowns cannot be mixed unless they have large tank systems. but as far as im concerned adding a wet dry would be a good thing and you could get away with maybe 6 friendly fish. forget the damsels unless you are going to do like chromis or something like that. no tangs no triggers maybe a small puffer or something like tha Link to comment
devil Posted May 27, 2002 Author Share Posted May 27, 2002 chromis is my favorite and not the most aggressive... 1 tomato clown and one yellow tail is what I have in my 12 gal for now.... I think they will be the first fishes in the new tank... or not.... BTW no puffers for me!!! I really do not like the fish (mainly because I belive that every sistem-fw or sw shuld have some snails and lobsters as unreplacable cleanup crew) wha about buterflyfishes??? any other pretty fish I can put there? and please don't say apogon-not the prettiest fish ever and not my faworite maybe gramma or a dotyback possible??? Link to comment
Toyfreek Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Every time you put more than one of any species they will compete. I wouldn't place more than one Gobie in there. I have 3 small fish in my 35 and I think I'm pushing it alittle, I would rethink your list and scale it down considerably. HTH, Toy Link to comment
devil Posted May 28, 2002 Author Share Posted May 28, 2002 OK then: 1 goby 1 clownfish 1 damsel wha about the grammas and buterflyfishes??? and dotybacks? others? Link to comment
quiksilver5768 Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 IMO you could easily get away with 6 fish. And you could probably push it to 7 or 8 if they are all small/decent size fish. You will justy need to deal with the bio-load. A sump and a refugium would help. If your got say a 10 or 20 gal reufigium/sump then you could get away with 7-8 decent size non-aggressive fish. Toy, your pushin it with 3 on your 35? I have 3 in my 10 for over 8 months and water quality has been perfect...:confused: Oh yea, I would also do this. Here is what my fish list would be... 2 Percs 3-4 Green Chromis 1 Clown Goby And MAYBE a hawkfish (Thos guys are so cool! lol) (Edited by quiksilver5768 at 12:21 am on May 28, 2002) Link to comment
devil Posted May 28, 2002 Author Share Posted May 28, 2002 my thought was: 1 tomato clown from my 12 gal 1 yellow tail damsel also from my 12 gal... 1 goby or blenny or both if possible... 1 royal gramma if possible.... it is something like 16 inches of fish for 30 gal... maybe less.... if you have 3 fish in a 10 gal and I 2 in a 12...and I can have more (I have a skimmer in there... but no corals for now...) why can't I have 5 or 6 in a 30? I think the 12 is going to be a quarantine tank and invert tank... wha is a hawkfish and wha do they need? Link to comment
jay2k2 Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 i have 6 fish in my 25 gallon! 1 firefish 2 Perc Clowns 3green chromis! w00t! Link to comment
Smokey Joe Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Both damsels and dottybacks will be risky. Theres a very good chance they'll go after the less aggressive fish in the tank. I have an orchid dottyback and a false percula in my 20g. Orchids are known to be the least aggressive dottybacks around and mine still nips at the clownfish fairly frequently. Link to comment
Toyfreek Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Quick, Not really about water quality its about the shape of my Hex. Lots of verticle room but no horizontal room to set up territory. Toy Link to comment
koiman6 Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Well I think you could hold at least 6 because if it is 40 inches long that is a lot of terirtory. In my 20long I have 2 percs, 1 spotted hawk, and 1 pearlescale butterfly(recently died but had lived for a good 6 monthes) I would say you could put in a butterfly but the only thing is they are hard to keep. A good butterfly would be the hardier four-eyed butterfly .This is what i would put in. 1. 2 percs 2. 1 long-nosed hawkfish 3. 1 goby/blenny 4. 1 bicolor pseudochromis 5. 1 Four-eyed butterfly For filtration a wet/dry system would be great Link to comment
devil Posted May 28, 2002 Author Share Posted May 28, 2002 hay you are changing my list! I didn't mentioned any perc's or hawks! I think the buterfly idea isn't a good one so leave Il leave it for now... my new list of fish: 1 damsel (or not-maybe he will stay in the 12 gal...) 1 tomato clown from my 12 gal... 1 little goby 1 blenny 1 royal gramma (if possible) 1 misc fish-maybe a hawk if I will find one that is pretty enough.... can you suggest some sites in europe that are sending livestock to IL??? well thank's for now... devil :asthanos: Link to comment
devil Posted May 30, 2002 Author Share Posted May 30, 2002 sooooo what do you think about the list? (I want to finish "debugging" it) what about the sites? Link to comment
Toyfreek Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Dude, you had like ten answers what more do you want? Toy Link to comment
Toyfreek Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 oh yeah also, Why would you want a european source for IL? I'm asuming Illinois USA? or you from IL europe wherever that may be? Just wondering, Toy Link to comment
devil Posted May 31, 2002 Author Share Posted May 31, 2002 I am from IL and the shipping from usa to us is realy expensive so I asked if you could help me with european sites about the list... just wanted to check if it's OK Link to comment
flaunt Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 what is IL? spell out the name of the country. Link to comment
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