debbeach13 Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 24Gal nano cube cycle is at 5 NO3, 425 for Ca, 0 for NO2, 1.022SG, phosphate .1, ammonia 0, with 20 LS and 18lbs cured LR. What would be a good start when I go clean up crew shopping? OR what to avoid?
minimalist Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 10 nassarius snails 5 cerith snails 2 scarlet hermits AVOID emerald mithrax crabs, sand sifting stars, and blue leg hermits.
Caesar777 Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Just keep in mind that nass snails only eat detritus, and actually eat very little algae at all.
debbeach13 Posted August 10, 2005 Author Posted August 10, 2005 I read some threads that has comments on clean up crews Some hate emarald crabs other like them I have two but have only seen one come out since I got them. I do not know if they are mithrax or not. Any way I was thinking of starting with this for snails 2 Astres, 2 mararita, 2 Cerith(if that is a different one) and maybe 2 bumble bee some people have traded them back to their lfs but did not mention why. I would also like some shrimp. I have read all of the following are good. Skunk cleaner, fire, peppermint, and camel. Any thoughts? Do they all get alomg or do you have to pick one type? Of course that pistol shrimp with a watchman goby sounds cool. Randails banded pistol shrimp and the yashia haze goby that a couple different people have threads going but sounds like you have to help them get that cave built in the front or you will hardly ever see them. I guess that is for later on. Thanks for your help Ceasar777 and minimalist Deb
minimalist Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 For all intensive purposes, consider the bumble bee snail identical to the nassarius snail. They're much slower, however. Go with a combination of astrea, cerith, bumble bee, and nassarius snails. Forego the margarita snails. Look to get one snail per 1-2 gallons. Variety is the key. So long as you avoid shrimp with enlarged claws like the coral banded shrimp (CBS), you'll be fine as far as compatability. Skunk cleaners and fire shrimp are a classic choice. You might want to get at least 1 peppermint as they're known to sometimes keep aptasia anemones (pest) in check. A personal favorite of mine are sexy shrimp. Hope this helps! Let us know what you end up deciding on.
Caesar777 Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Yes, margarita snails are a temperate (colder-water) species, not for our tropical tanks. I avoid all crabs except scarlet hermits, but that's just me. Be careful with them; keep an eye on 'em.
clown fish rule Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 what would i need for my 10gallon maby hermits tell me please
ACBlinky Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Debbeach, I learned the hard way that emeralds aren't always a good choice, my male matured and developed a taste for corals. I've read that sometimes this happens with peppermints as well - they may eat Aiptasia, but they may also pick at polyps. I ended up with way too many zebra and blueleg hermits in my 14g, they fought constantly and weren't much help in the clean-up department. My snails, on the other hand, work tirelessly. I've still got two scarlet hermits, they're good little guys who cause no trouble at all. One spends about 90% of his time guarding the GSP, he's a bit lazy I'd definitely get Astraeas, and if you can find a Trochus grab one or two - mine munches more algae than anything else in the tank and is gorgeous in the bargain (deep purple body with light blue/yellow head, shell covered in corraline). I traded my bumblebees in because they added to the bioload but did no appreciable work. My current crew is 5 Astraeas, 1 Trochus, 2 Indo-Pacific turbos, bristleworms (came in the rock, they're everywhere!) and a skunk cleaner shrimp.
Fishfreak218 Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 FOR YOUR CLEAN UP CREW GET A MOP AND A BUCKET (lololol..j/k) THESE THINGS CRACK LIKE CRAZYYYYYYY...I WENT TO A STORE YESTERDAY AND THE OWNER SAID THAT HE NOTICED THAT ALL OF HIS CUSTOMERS NANO CUBES THAT CRACK WERE ON WOOD FLOOR i have one know and am transferring everything to a oceanic 30g cube...
debbeach13 Posted August 11, 2005 Author Posted August 11, 2005 Last night I got 2 bumble bee snails and 2 camel shrimp the only other shrimp he had were CBS. I do not think I have enough algae for a turbo yet I added the live rock on 7/28 LFS saidit was cured for min of two months and I never had any smell, almost no die off. There are little things starting to grow. The LR was keep it in a tank with no lights. I am up to about 5.5 - 6.5 hrs per day depends. The lfs has some Trochus and they look cool I will be getting one of those and some astraeas. I am still waiting to see if when the lights are on for a longer period each day if I will get a diatom bloom. Thanks to all it is so good to be able to get other peoples input. Deb
debbeach13 Posted August 11, 2005 Author Posted August 11, 2005 Hey Fishfreak218 I read some where that it was the best not to keep sea horses with LR. Which made no sense to me cause there is LR no matter where they come from. Please keep us posted I was considering using a five hex I have for a couple mini seahorses much, much later. So I would love to follow a thread on your success with them
Fishfreak218 Posted August 11, 2005 Posted August 11, 2005 Debbeach, i am going to wait a little while on seahorses because someone told me that if they are on frozen food than they will need to be fed twice a day..i am only 13 and so i dont think i will be able to give them the proper care they diserve ...when i get them i will let you know about it though..deffinetly keep them with liverock because it helps keep water param. good, it gives them a thing to graze on, and it probably resembles their natural habitat (unless they are from seagrass beds) keeping them in a tank w/ some fake coral and some sand is only gonna stress them out...witch could kill these sensitive animals..anyway tthat is my opinion
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