Sara Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Okay, right now I'm just exploring some different options for my 29g. Would this work? I'm sure that it'll work better than the 10g. How many would make this work? If it were three, there would be more room for them. But if it were soemthing like five, the aggression would be more dispersed. What do ya guys think? Can this work? Sara
proraptor Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Dont waste an awesome 29 gallon tank with Damsels...
minimalist Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 They're right. You can put 5 fish in a tank that size w/out problems. If you add damsels, you'll regret it months from now. Possibilites: ocellaris or percula pair firefish (if you have a lid) any of the smaller gobies (consider a shrimp/goby combo) bicolor blenny, red sea mimic blenny yellowhead jawfish royal gramma, blackcap basslet cleaner shrimp, fire shrimp 20 snails - a variety of nassarius, cerith, and astrea 3-4 scarlet hermits Stay away from mandarins (diet), damsels (aggression), rainfordi or hector's goby (diet), emerald crabs, and blue leg hermits. Just make sure to do your research before buying each and every fish.
Sara Posted August 1, 2005 Author Posted August 1, 2005 Hmmm... I think I may have a damsel (most likely a yellow tail), but maybe not an all damsel tank. I'd hate to have it all set up, and eventually ending up with less fish than what I started with. Sara
maddyfish Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 I like damsels, a group of yellowtails would probably be ok, and would look good as well.
desmo13 Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 I like damsels too. I dream of having a large enough tank for a couple different schools of damsels.
Sara Posted August 1, 2005 Author Posted August 1, 2005 Yeah, I really LOVE damsels, but I'm just not sure if it'll work in a 29g or not. Sara
rbaby Posted August 1, 2005 Posted August 1, 2005 Go for it...I would go with about 3 with plenty of rocks...if they get along, try adding a 4th that's larger than all of them...and leave it at that. Damsels are very aggressive towards other fish--but they seem to be okay with the same species...they're very animate fish--they like to take rocks out of your rockwork and spit them out...hover in holes and all of that good stuff...I think it'd be pretty cool.
Sara Posted August 1, 2005 Author Posted August 1, 2005 Are you saying I need to get 4 damsels of the same species? Sara
Steve973 Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 Five fish, minimalist? Well, I suppose that depends upon what you'd want to keep. If I had a 29 and if I were keeping sps, I woudln't want the bioload of five fish. Imagine five fully grown damsels in a 29 gallon tank...
minimalist Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 5 fish would be fine so long as they're not all damsels. A 29g with 2 amphiprion percs, a firefish, a yellow clown goby, and a royal gramma would be a suitable bioload for a 29g. No question. People put 2 clowns in 10g tanks all the time. 2 fish : 10g tank 6 fish : 30g tank I suggested 5. What's the problem?
Sara Posted August 2, 2005 Author Posted August 2, 2005 I agree. It seems to me a common rule amungst reefers is about 2-3" of fish per 5g. So 5 small fish would come under that rule. Sara
andykee Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 minimalist: why no emerald crabs??? i have 2 in my 29g and love them. they are great algae eather, very doccile, and are a lot of fun to watch. sara: the people who have been suggesting 5 different fish are suggesting 5 small fish, damsels can grow to 3" or larger. 5 damsels would survive in your tank, and it isn't possible to say that they wouldn't thrive in there, but your bioload will be maxed out. you will be stuck with a fowlr tank becuse your water quality will probably be too poor to support any types of corals. if all you want are damsels, rock, and a cleanup crew, then have at it! otherwise you may want to go with 1 or 3 damsels and maybe one or two smaller fish.
Sara Posted August 2, 2005 Author Posted August 2, 2005 Yeah, I know some damsels can get quite large. I was thinking of getting the smaller ones (blue devils, yellow tails, yellows. All are about 2-3.5"). I believe someone on another forum suggested a pair of tomato clowns, and a yellow tail damsel. Sara
jstone624 Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 Throw an oversize HOB skimmer (remora pro or similar) and do a FOWLR packing that puppy with 10 damsels! j/k IMO it depends on how much upkeep your willing to do also, HOW the fish use the swimming space they are given. a lawnmower blenny isn't going to hang around the top of the tank - most lionfish grow big, but tend hover in one spot - Tangs like to swim in open water and need long tanks to prevent stress. A good combo of fish, and there would be no problem keeping 5 in a 29g with a good upkeep schedule. I agree with minimalist, a mix of smaller fish that use different parts of the tank and you'll be fine (maybe 3 damsels, a goby and a blenny or clown?)~ besides I dont remember you stressing any importance on corals, so why comment ~ it's all about the damsels.
Msigler Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 The blue devil's are in my opinion the best looking,but super duper aggressive. Why not a small school of Blue/green Chromis and maybe a centropyge argi?
minimalist Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 Andykee, if your emeralds are well behaved, that's awesome. The ones I get always seems to knock over coral frags and end up turning evil after a month or so. I'm just not fond of any crabs in general other than the occasional scarlet.
Sara Posted August 2, 2005 Author Posted August 2, 2005 All those fish combos sounds greeat guys! I can just imgaine a school of chromis and a chreub angel, that would be very pretty! *sigh* So many fish, not enough tanks! Sara
ReefTankForMe Posted August 2, 2005 Posted August 2, 2005 hi sara, I have kept a yellow tail and a tomato clown in my 29 since feb. no problems. THey are the only 2 fish I have though. The clown dominates the damsel, which was surprising
Sara Posted August 2, 2005 Author Posted August 2, 2005 The clown dominates the damsel, which was surprising. Maybe because the clown was twice as big? Boy, deciding what fish to put in is not an easy task! Sara
ReefTankForMe Posted August 4, 2005 Posted August 4, 2005 sara, how did you know the clown is twice as big, are you spying on me!
Sara Posted August 4, 2005 Author Posted August 4, 2005 Well, I know tomato clowns get to be about 5-6" and yellow tail damsels are about 3". Sara
crrichey Posted August 5, 2005 Posted August 5, 2005 I like damsels, a group of yellowtails would probably be ok, and would look good as well. For the love of GOD, do NOT do that!!! I tryed doing the exact same think with my 29-gallon, and I currently only have 1 left. IME 1 damsel for every 2 feet of aquarium. They will quickly determine there territory, and a 29-gallon is just too small for more than 1 damsel. With a long enough aquarium, there is plenty of room for them to establish seperate territories (which in the wild can cover many many feet) and if one ventures into another one's territory, it will chase it back until the intruder is back in his own territory.
Sara Posted August 5, 2005 Author Posted August 5, 2005 Yeah, I was wondering about that. I knew that damsels needed plenty of room for territory, but I did't know how much. Sara
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