clown fish rule Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 hello 1)when you buy live rock that is cured and it is in the bag can you pick it up with your fingers or not and 2)When you buy corals how do you take them out of the bag and put them on your live rock please help thanx Link to comment
proraptor Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Yes you can pick up live rock with your hands...Its better to wear some form of gloves though....I wear some lunch lady looking gloves. When I buy coral I get a 1-2 gallon pitcher and acclimate it in there for about 15-20 minutes. Then grab it and place it in my tank (if it has a rock) If not super glue gel it to an existing rock from the tank. Link to comment
neanderthalman Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I'd wear gloves when handling most corals, as they may sting your skin - ie: Fire coral. Most aren't an issue, but I'd wear them for zoos as well, some secrete a neurotoxin. If you don't wear gloves, please wash your hands...please.... Link to comment
Caesar777 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 KID! DO some damn research. You've asked pretty much EVERY question that could possibly be asked, showing that you know NOTHING about reefkeeping. Why just get a few mixed answers from people when you can read actual literature and gain some good, solid knowledge? Consider researching EVERYTHING before doing anything relating to live animals. Link to comment
icenine Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 If you're considering not using gloves when working in your tank you might want to read my own cautionary tale in the first page of my tank thread. .....I was fine without gloves until..... here is a link: http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/showthread...20&pagenumber=1 Good luck with your set up! Link to comment
Caesar777 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Good point about the gloves... About a month ago I grabbed a rock and pressed my finger right onto a small bristleworm, and the side of it was impaled with the bristles. It was numb for a week, and the outer skin took nearly three weeks to fully die and come off. Now there's a hole in the thick skin of my finger...And it still feels slightly numb It isn't as disgusting as it sounds--no signs of infection or anything like that, just some kind of allergy/sensitization--but it was NOT pleasant, and that was a SMALL worm. Imagine what a larger one could do... Yikes! Link to comment
tinyreef Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 caesar, this is the beginners forum. it supposed to have beginner questions. now i know having ice follow you everywhere probably has you on edge but suave. oooommmmm...oooommmmm...nanananananana clownfish, you can handle most corals with you hands. i'd definitely read up on which you can and which you can't though. otherwise, you'll learn by neurotoxin and nematocyst. ouch! fyi, corals make your hands smell...well, unusual. Link to comment
Caesar777 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 What did icenine have to do with anything? I posted before him. My second post was genuine--wear gloves, because bristleworms hurt. It was even in agreeance, though I didn't read his thread, so I don't know for sure. Not sure what you're getting at with the emoticons and music, but alright, whatever gets you off. Now... On the harsh treatment of the poor kid: do you see all the posts I make here? I happily answer any questions that I can, but he (clown fish rule) has asked everything there is to ask! Have you seen HIS posts? He's obviously not ready for a reef tank. Perhaps I could have been nicer and said "BUY A BOOK". In life people will help you as you help them, but you can't expect to be spoon-fed all the answers! One thing is to ask someone to ID a critter--that's tough to research anyway; what do you search for, "slimy gray thing with tentacles"?--but it's another to ask about a hundred different questions about easy, basic stuff. Even a few, I could see--sometimes a book doesn't have everything there is to know within it, believe it or not --but that many... Eh. To each his own. But he'll be a sad and unsuccessful adult if he's encouraged to ask for help instead of doing things himself. The end. Link to comment
tinyreef Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 that's meditation not muzak, a la caddyshack. the emoticon emotes peace. i wasn't implying anything. i bluntly stated that i thought ice was getting on your nerves, that's all. as for your arguement; been there, done it. many times. just saying/reminding (for the newbs sake more than yours) that beginners is a dmz. i'm not a mod and could care less if you roast the newbie his nutz with honey. i'll be watching from the peanut gallery like i always have and always will (more fun). not saying harsh love isn't necessary. on the contrary, i think it is at times. just saying the beginners may listen more with a jest than a jolt. ooooommmm...oooommmmm...nanananana...be the reef...see the reef...oooommmm Link to comment
Reefer Addict Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Does anyone have any pamprin? j/k Link to comment
Caesar777 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I suppose. Thing is, I wasn't flaming, I was being honest. It was meant solely as advice (STRONG advice) and not meant to be insulting in any way. I know it may sound harsh, but I mean...######. Reefer - Adding "just kidding" doesn't make it okay to insult someone. :angel: Link to comment
Reefer Addict Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 It wasn't meant to be an insult..You just seem to be wound up a bit tight...Just relax and take my warped sense of humor with a grain of salt. No pun intended.. Link to comment
ACBlinky Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by clown fish rule 1)when you buy live rock that is cured and it is in the bag can you pick it up with your fingers or not and I'd advise wearing gloves, I learned the hard way - accidentally injured a zoanthid and spent the next few hours in the hospital ER. No permanent harm done to either the zoa or myself, but IMO there are much better ways to spend an evening 2)When you buy corals how do you take them out of the bag and put them on your live rock There are lots of ways that I've seen - if the coral is attached to a rock, you can just place the rock in your tank. If it's attached to a small rock (rubble), you can use epoxy or superglue to glue the rock to a larger piece. If there is no rock, I believe you can dry the bottom of the coral (for instance, the stem of a mushroom), dry a piece of LR and superglue the two together. If you do a search for things like 'epoxy', 'glue', 'frag' etc. you'll find lots of threads about this kind of thing. Caesar's right, researching is key. IMHO, the more you study, the better your experience will be. Link to comment
tinyreef Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Originally posted by Caesar777 I suppose. Thing is, I wasn't flaming, I was being honest. It was meant solely as advice (STRONG advice) and not meant to be insulting in any way. I know it may sound harsh, but I mean...######. i know you didn't mean to flame (at least i didn't think you did). in fact, you i think you were posting what some of us were thinking (always have been thinking about beginners in nanos). imagine the tempers when there wasn't even a beginner's forum. sometimes the beginners do need a nudge (with a sledgehammer). Originally posted by addict You just seem to be wound up a bit tight that's what i thought. we were just trying to get your teeth out of the newb's neck. Link to comment
Caesar777 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Yes, but unwinding a nicely-rolled-up yo-yo is a lot easier than unwinding it after a pack of forum posters snatch it away and knot it up as tightly as possible.... But oh, that's completely unrelated to this thread. Keep your chin up, newbies! All you need to do is go online and research, or buy a book. It's fun! Link to comment
MrAnderson Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Originally posted by Caesar777 do you see all the posts I make here? hard to miss Originally posted by Caesar777 I happily answer any questions that I can... ok I don't know why any question ####es anyone off here. 10,000 members, you're gonna get repeat questions, stupid questions, and repeats of stupid questions. Why bother if the answer's not put forth constructively? Surely there's no need to go to the opposite tone. It makes a difference in the tone of the forums in general. IMO telling someone to read or do a search is lame; if they're online they ARE reading and searching. Link to comment
ktownhero Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hey Caesar, I got your back. It is people like clown fish rule that make me think there should be some sort of certification for keeping reef tanks. He has asked EVERY single possible question there is, which clearly indicates that he/she has done zero research and is in no way prepared to keep a reef tank. Furthermore, IMO, this also indicates that he/she really is not willing to put any real effort into learning and has no patience--the two worst qualities you can possibly have for a reef tank. clown fish, we want to help you, but, for real, you need to make an effort to educate yourself on this stuff. Link to comment
Civicman86 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Originally posted by ktownhero He has asked EVERY single possible question there is, which clearly indicates that he/she has done zero research and is in no way prepared to keep a reef tank. Isnt asking questions part of research? I think its better that he/she is asking questions rather than just killing harmless animals/corals/reefs/etc. I know the same easy ass questions get old to answer all the time but give the person some credit for trying. I am very new to this saltwater stuff also. I have leared (being big into modifiying cars and on car forums) that the search function is your best friend. When you have searched all you can and still dont have an answer then you ask. (If you dont have the time to search and need an answer quick that is fine). I think its great this person is trying to learn. Although they might not be reading novels about this hobby they are at least trying and not just killing stuff like Im sure alot of people do that do NO research. I have always been a person that, if you dont liek the thread and its contents just go back and look at another one. There is no need wasting space on this board with your counter productive posts. Its all about choice. Being non productive helps NO one. Link to comment
ktownhero Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Originally posted by Civicman86 Isnt asking questions part of research? I think its better that he/she is asking questions rather than just killing harmless animals/corals/reefs/etc. I know the same easy ass questions get old to answer all the time but give the person some credit for trying. I am very new to this saltwater stuff also. I have leared (being big into modifiying cars and on car forums) that the search function is your best friend. When you have searched all you can and still dont have an answer then you ask. (If you dont have the time to search and need an answer quick that is fine). I think its great this person is trying to learn. Although they might not be reading novels about this hobby they are at least trying and not just killing stuff like Im sure alot of people do that do NO research. I have always been a person that, if you dont liek the thread and its contents just go back and look at another one. There is no need wasting space on this board with your counter productive posts. Its all about choice. Being non productive helps NO one. You haven't seen all of his posts, have you? This isn't being counter-productive, this is being honest; if you want to do well in this hobby, you better work to learn about. Here we have clown fish, who clearly is very uneducated about stuff, doesn't make any attempt at learning except asking sporadic, simple questions that could be found in the first chapter of any book (or on a sticky in a forum) and he/she is already filling a tank with water and sand and wanting to put stuff in it. Hey, I was new once, I know all about it. I want to help anybody and everybody, but if I get the sense that the person is not genuine in his/her search for information, then it irks me... because if there are three things you need in this hobby it is this: 1) a genuine interest in understanding reef systems on a functional and, perhaps, scientific level 2) the willingness to work to achieve #1 3) patience This isn't the hobby for band-wagons or people trying to catch a fad. Certainly not for people who don't care enough to learn a little bit before putting those "cool" creatures in a box in their home. Link to comment
Reefer Addict Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I just don't understand why the members who get all riled up about noob questions keep reading posts made by noobs. It actually cracks me up reading some of the responses. Just stop reading their post...An even better solution is for them to not even enter the Beginners Forum.... It makes no sense to me when people look to get themselves upset.... It's a different issue if a noob posts a noob question outside the BF. At that point go ahead and bring out the chains and whips... Link to comment
icenine Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I agree reefer, and you're right about the humor in it too. Watching some people spaz like they do is amusing till you see them do it five or ten times. Link to comment
ktownhero Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hey I just don't like to see corals and fish go down the toilet when they don't need to. Is there something wrong with that? Link to comment
MrAnderson Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hey flamers, whatever floats your boat. I just don't understand the impetus to come here and "help out" in the noob section if you just end up losing it and beat up on someone. I've said this in the past and I'll say it again. You just don't know who's behind the username. Maybe it's a curious 12 year old kid you're slamming the door on. Maybe the person is a Nobel Prize-winning astrophysicist who's clueless about reefing. Either way, just chill and move on; It's obviously too much to ask for friendliness. (a smiley face after a snotty comment doesn't count) Link to comment
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