Auryn Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 can an anemone die in 4 days from insufficient light. what could cause an anemone to die overnight after it did beautifully for 3 days in good water- even ate some food had settled in to a nice spot I ask because unbeknownst to me my father bought a condy anemone for me for my 12gl nano i know it needs for more light I was thinking of doing a diy retro and adding more light in the next couple of weeks as I had read that it takes a while usually for an anemone to die of insufficient light this anemone was doing great picked itself a spot almost right away (acclimated it for 3 hours before putting it in) stayed there for 3 days looked gorgeous never lost any color- got prettier actually, fuller, fleshier tentacles was eating small pieces of raw shrimp and scallop like a hungry 4 yr old went to bed last night and it looked gorgeous seemed healthy woke up this morning and it had shrunk to the size of a golf ball tentacles were short and mostly flat it seemed to be pushing something out of its mouth- like its regurgitating itself almost anyone have any idea what it could be thats causing this? let me know and if u want I can post a few pics to facilitate the imagery ph 8.3 salinity 1.021 temp 77o lighting 24W some natural lighting calcium 375 (using supplements to raise it) water flow is good- there is a good current- all i have in there is the standard pump that came with the nano ammonia 0 nitrates 0 nitrite <10ppm the tank has been set up for 8 weeks and is fully cycled no I did not add the anemone along with all the other inhabitants the shrimp and fish were added at seperate times with the shrimp being the last to go in 2 weeks ago tank inhabitants 2 peppermint shrimp 1 cleaner shrimp handful of blue legged hermits 2 astrea snails 1 tank raised percula who avoided the anemone like the plague there are no particles or nutrients on the water surface (I mean there is no filmy substance on the water surface) I don't plan on keeping any more anemones or corals at this point cause this is the 2nd anemone thats died in this same manner within 3 days of being in the tank- I assume its the same cause but I can't find anything and i lost a green button polyp that was doing well for 3 weeks (I assume this is from lack of light) so if you could help me ID this killer thatd be great Quote Link to comment
FateX9 Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 it just shrunk and spewing stuff out of its mouth? if thats the case its not dead its just releasing waste you gotta remember that an anemone only has one opening, what goes in goes out the same hole Quote Link to comment
DiverDave Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Condi's come from the atlantic/caribean oceans. They are prolific, and as such are readlity available to the hobby. Thier sting is VERY strong compared to pacific species of anemone's. The clown will DEFINITLY avoid this species. I would give it some more time to see how it does, add more light and read up on it. Quote Link to comment
Auryn Posted April 3, 2005 Author Share Posted April 3, 2005 thanks guys it was realising what I assume is waste earlier this morning (long brown material) now it just seems to be inverting its mouth I guess u could equate it to spreading its mouth all the way open and parts of its throat being exposed will it hurt the clown if it accidentally touches it? the shrimp dont seem to care either way and have been touched a couple of times and nothing happened thanks again Quote Link to comment
DiverDave Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 The refuse that the anemone is expelling will most likely not hurt any of the inhabitants. The Condy may or may not actually 'sting' the clown. As clown fish are not present in the atlantic-and vice versa for the condys in the pacific, the clown will most likely NOT take it as a host. Quote Link to comment
cornstar Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Could of been a little salinity shock. What was the SG at the store. I saw your is 1.021, if the stores was 1.026 (as many are) it might of been a little to much trauma. 8 weeks might be a little soon for an anemone ( i know you didnt buy it), the tank, although cycled, has not stablised. Quote Link to comment
rnosal Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 its just poopin let it be, but yes get more light or trade it in at the LFS for a bubble tip when you get more light. 8 weeks is also a little short for a anemone to live happily. wait for a couple more months to make sure your tank is settled and health. Quote Link to comment
Auryn Posted April 5, 2005 Author Share Posted April 5, 2005 thanks guys I don't plan on buying anymore livestock until at least May 13 there is going ot be a humongous salt water show near where I live and even the lfs guy said I should wait and go to that show the anemone is doing fine now btw when i woke up yesterday it was bigger than it was even at the lfs i guess it was just constipated the only thing I worry about is that I orignally wanted 2 perculas so that they could be one m and one f but I am afraid that by now it will be too late to introduce a new percula in there w/o the other guy going nuts on it I was thinking the only thing that might work would be to take the established guy out- bag him- rearrange the tank and then float and acclimate him with the new percula and introduce them together after acclimation- that way its like they are going to a new tank- what do you guys think- would it work?? are bubble tips better host anemones for perculas?? oh and I dont plan on keeping this condy long- probably until the tank is settled and established and I can get a different anemone as the condy is already quite large (until yesterday i had never seen it fully opened) and if the fish avoid it that much it creates a lot of dead space in the tank that the fish cant use and most ppl ive talked to say condys grow quickly so this guy will get too big for this tank pretty soon thanks for all the help Quote Link to comment
BKtomodachi Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 The combination of low salinity, stress from movement, improper lighting, and unknown water parameter differences probably did it in. Quote Link to comment
Auryn Posted April 8, 2005 Author Share Posted April 8, 2005 its fine now its humongous its actually moved itself to the back of the tank whatever makes it happy i guess Quote Link to comment
Yvonne Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Can clown fish over host an anemone and kill it 1 Quote Link to comment
patback Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Yvonne said: Can clown fish over host an anemone and kill it Depends really. Most likely not, if it dies, chances are the issue is something other than your clown. Clowns have been known to bother coral that do not normally host clowns to death. Quote Link to comment
mcarroll Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 The anemone is hosting the clownfish, BTW. Not vis versa. 👍 Yes the guest of the host (the clownfish) can be too much stress in some cases. Quote Link to comment
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