flex13 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 What is the best way to go? Also can a protien skimmer be used on a Refu.. Link to comment
ProFlatlander15 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 i would def go fuge. its like a sump, but it has stuff in it. why wouldnt you? lol yea fuge cuz it takes out all the bad stuff (trates, etc) and u can still hide stuff in it like heaters. uh... i dont kno bout the protein skimmer. im sure it can be done, i just dont kno if it would rob the macro in the fuge of nutrients it would use to grow... i run 10 gal fuge w/ no skimmer and my tank is fine. Link to comment
flex13 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks ProFlatlander15 I also think a skimmer will rob nutrients but i am not sure if this is true. I also read your water might turn slight yellow with a (fuge) and the skimmer will fix the problem.. Anyone seen this problem? The reason for asking sump or fuge, i know poeple just running sump with filter media and protein skimmer thats it. Tanks looks sweet, but here everone uses fuge and the tanks look sweet too. Link to comment
EtOH_is_good Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 as always, it depends on what you want to accomplish in your tank. sump will help you increase tank volume and get rid some of the equip that would normally found in the tank. a fuge can also increase tank volume but also help in the export excess nutrients (ie macro algae or lr rubble), and suppliment the pod production. although it is possible to overskim, in a nano it is probably less of a worry because of the frequent water changes, which replaces nutrient loss. same goes for yellow water, water changes fix it. ideally, the fuge should be a slow flow area. a skimmer hooked directly to a fuge may change the dynamics of feeding the fuge inhabitants. Link to comment
tvu Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I have a fuge with the skimmer at the end of the water flow where the return pump is located. That was the incoming water flows through the fuge area then into the chamber where the skimmer is located. I had it custom made and it's really nice. Link to comment
EtOH_is_good Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 what do you want to keep in the tank? a lot of fish, sps coral, then recommend a skimmer. just softies, then no skimmer. more info you provide the better details the nr can provide. Link to comment
ProFlatlander15 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 i just DIYed a 10 gal where the water passes through mechanical and chemical (carbon, chemi-pure, etc) media before it gets to the fuge. i think yellow water can also be cleared up w/ activated carbon along with water changes. Link to comment
flex13 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 yes all kinds of corals getting MH - 3 fish if i go 21g Link to comment
flex13 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks Etoh_is_good for the help Now i might have to start a new thred but does anyone know who makes customs sumps without leaving me with an empty wallet? Link to comment
ProFlatlander15 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 i did a 10 gal for about 70 bucks...of course i had stuff lying around, but below is what it would have costed. 10 gal-$10 PVC and fittings-$10 return pump- mag drive 2-$35 plexiglass to create baffles-$10 silicone-$5 Link to comment
flex13 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 hmm does not sound to hard. Any place i can get get diagram? Link to comment
BKtomodachi Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 A fuge is just a sump with gravity feed back to the tank (so pods dont die from impeller) and stuff in it for pods to grow in. For nutrient export, you can have macro in a sump just fine, as long as it has light. Link to comment
Tigahboy Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 You can actually have plenty of pod action even w/ a return pump bringing back water to your tank instead of gravity fed. And most larger tanks have fuges set-up this way instead of those hang on the back doohickies that gravity feeds them back down into a display. I've seen pods literally get sucked into my return pump and end up at the main display intact and alive. I'm sure some become toast, but you'll still have a lot of pods and pod babies, which will grow into adult pods. Link to comment
flex13 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Yeah i am going to the bottom i want a clean look. Link to comment
BKtomodachi Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 What size impeller was that Tigah? Mine would always be dead after going through my tiny aquaclear ph. Link to comment
Tigahboy Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 ah..ic. I don't know what the size is, but it's a Dolphin Tankmaster series water pump and folks use it for return pumps...standard ph's don't make good return pumps for larger tanks and for the same reason you mentioned. Link to comment
ProFlatlander15 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 http://ccsu-china.tripod.com/johnson/johnson2.html this is what i did, or there abouts... any question just keep goin on this thread Link to comment
ProFlatlander15 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 actually now that i look at my pic, i will let you kno that i do have an overlfow box behing my display, so scratch the intake is 1" below water level part. also, see the overflow in my fuge? that is where i placed my mechanical/chemical filtration. my pic is a bitmap so it might take a lil while to load, good luck Link to comment
flex13 Posted December 16, 2004 Author Share Posted December 16, 2004 NICE k thanks again XDSL loaded just fine. Link to comment
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