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Thanks, the direction I’m going with my livestock is trying to find good deals on quality pieces. I always have and probably will be on a huge budget for reefing, so I always wait for big sales along with good deals and see what I can pick up, which is why I haven’t filled the tank yet. I definitely think this scape will work the best out of what I’ve tried, more surface area along with placement for corals that need lighting at the middle area of the tank.

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F00CD652-89AB-4EE6-AD00-79A117E2EBA0.thumb.jpeg.143a155d1747bfe4a16cca77eb08e5e8.jpeganother fts lol, this time it’s good. Glued zoas to rocks, and the hammer. The new additions are doing good. 2965D79F-9856-4B51-A7C7-37FE3F0D2449.thumb.jpeg.c695b45cdaa7edd546c36f7b3f486c4c.jpeg2FA3677E-902C-4B10-8962-520D6CBDF572.thumb.jpeg.9713c3dd2ba8fdb5f4dfb2ea03605817.jpeg

Also need to update the stock list on the first post, haven’t changed it since I first posted it lol

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Little update, don’t have any photos right now but I’ll try and get some later today or this week. Not much has happened, added a little short polyped toadstool, fire fish, some turbos and a chalk basslet, growth has been good, most things have grown a little, zoas some polyps, and my blasto has sprouted 3 or 4 baby heads all of a sudden.  Got attacked with the consequences of adding a little dry rock, now I’ve got some diatoms but it’s nothing terrible. (Probably should’ve rinsed them with RO water) One HUGE mistake on my end though, had to reset my phone because of some issues it had, and the ai price app schedule reset. Got it back to how it was before but I didn’t notice I turned it all up by 40 percent or so, had it like that for a week then realized and immediately dialed it back.  Most of the zoas are pissed, hammer isn’t fully extended and some rfas have shrunk, had a baby RFA pop up, put him where I can see him but I think he moved.  Right now it’s just a matter of letting things get stable again.

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Probably time for another update with pictures.6927A293-28E9-4BDA-98C0-9CB146DFD722.thumb.jpeg.81669d1d55bbaa952af73491bd0c7005.jpeg

Seems like these pictures look a lot crisp and cleaner before I upload them to the site. Biggest thing is that the tank is stocked to the brim fish wise now. Need to update the stock list; the inhabitants are now:

Royal Gramma

Lawnmower Blenny

Firefish

Chalk Basslet pair

Silver Belly Wrasse

So that’s 6 fish, probably and shouldn’t do any more. Being on a budget, fully stocking my tank was definitely the quickest and best way to make my tank look more full. Pretty happy with my selections of fish, they each have their own little personality and greet me when I come up to the tank. Tank parameters are stable and there’s little aggression so for now the list is good. As that wrasse gets to its adult size, I’ll probably have to rehome it, but I love it right now. Really need to think of some names.

 

Coral wise, we now have pictures of that leather, but have added a green hammer, candy cane, 2 mystery zoas, green/turquoise discosoma, red rhodactis and a gonzo golden dragon rhodactis.  Growth has been nice, those blasting baby heads have grown outwards a little, 2 of the RfA have gotten huge now, and some new polyps from the zoas.

 

Biggest thing you can notice from the FTS is that a lot of the stuff on the frag rack and the zoas that are glued down are pissed.  I figured out those diatoms were actually dinos, and my nutrients had bottomed out for a while now, one thing about this hobby that gets to me is that if your tank is too dirty you’re screwed, but even if it’s too clean, your screwed.  I just finished a 3 day blackout, which hopefully will restart the race between Dino’s and other algae’s to compete for space in the tank.  Might pick up some microbacter7 or something, not sure.  Feeding more and more fish has also seen them go away a bit. You can’t really see the dinos because the blackout just ended. Dinos definitely got to some of my corals though, luckily no real deaths but some pretty unhappy zoos.

 

Will send more pictures later, phonetography is improving a bit lol

 

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Time for some phonetography…

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Need to start thinking of names lol, but found this guy smiling at me

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So hard to get a good picture of this pair, they get scared by the phone whenever I put it against the tank

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Iffy picture of this rainbow yuma I think it is.. have to explain how I got it in another post

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shrooms

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mr krabs

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32 minutes ago, debbeach13 said:

Everything looks supper. The pictures are great. That first one made me smile.

Haha thanks, I also found a photo or two of when I first started this tank, photos from December 2019. Was way before any of this thread or the downhill spiral of the tank began. Definitely needed some more rock back then lol, but the tank is probably so stable even after adding so many fish so fast just because even though everything died and the tank was a mess, it’s still pretty mature6038A3E6-0F97-4118-B489-AAFCB0135483.thumb.jpeg.8b0a2765e51946d342f580ba9f824f99.jpegFF99BE32-5A99-4C37-B709-AA82E193577A.thumb.jpeg.76adaecff9c25b7eca209652ee66ba7a.jpeg

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I like the arch in your rockwork. I did a huge arch for a pop up reef in a public aquarium I worked at many years back. Cutting out the artificial insert and taking it off the main system was a fun project. Kids loved this tank, climbing up in the center. Your tank reminded me of this exhibit. It was completely stocked by the local aquarium club frags to colonies. Pic was just after first fill.

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43 minutes ago, Fish out of Water said:

I like the arch in your rockwork. I did a huge arch for a pop up reef in a public aquarium I worked at many years back. Cutting out the artificial insert and taking it off the main system was a fun project. Kids loved this tank, climbing up in the center. Your tank reminded me of this exhibit. It was completely stocked by the local aquarium club frags to colonies. Pic was just after first fill.

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Oh wow, I see those kinds of climb in tanks at the Georgia aquarium near me. Really love them those kinds of tanks, and that’s probably how my fishes feel huddling up under the arch lol. Originally when rescaping this tank I tried lots of other ideas, but the rock being established you can really add or take out much of it to make room for new shapes. The bio cube is a notoriously difficult tank to make a good scape for, and I really love how it turned out. Maybe in the future I’ll add some more vertical rock space, as I think that’s what it needs, maybe some of those magnetic frag holders that look like rock and go on the side of the glass.  Main goal when I’m done with this tank is to just have it filled, even the sand bed, and have it filled with all sorts of different things.

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Alright, so aquaSD order came a day late unfortunately, but fortunately everything is alive, some of it not as well though.  The main thing I worry about is the bubble coral I ordered, as some flesh is missing in the middle that was in the picture, probably lost during shipping but now I’m the tank it seems to be fine. One of the blastos is missing a little tissue but I think they will pull through. 8B8F5B93-E80A-44CE-8C84-DFEE19BC8224.thumb.jpeg.29819fad9d67b81640d44a4dc9b0e0fb.jpeg3EBBF3FC-49A1-43D6-8F59-38DB27E50C08.thumb.jpeg.d05342b0e0e0795ed0d862f485d44f26.jpegEF44ED4D-52B6-4495-B6F1-6627752DAD4E.thumb.jpeg.52d6b3211202d0ee8b56cdaeaa51e07c.jpeg

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2 blastos, a Trachy, a Cynarina, a bubble and a freebie mystery encrusting lps? More pictures later. Cynarina not fully open or colored up but got the best picture I could, no pics of the purple blasto.

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Heres the current fts, not everything is fully open right now because that top rock fell because of my urchin and I had to pick up some stuff. Got tired of him so I threw him in the 13.5, love the little urchin but I don’t need him or really anything eating algae right now. 
 

The main issue I’m encountering now (besides the little bit of dino) is actually deciding where to put stuff. The tank isn’t close to full yet, but I don’t want to regret my placement, and almost wanna have it sectioned into gardens. Already got a zoa garden going just needs to grow, but I’m trying to get a good variety of shrooms, blastos and euphyllia right now also.  Just now sure with placement as I know what light and flow my corals like, but trying to find a spot that doesn’t look out of place is difficult.

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On 2/19/2023 at 2:56 PM, wuzzo said:

Maybe in the future I’ll add some more vertical rock space, as I think that’s what it needs, maybe some of those magnetic frag holders that look like rock and go on the side of the glass. 

I have the Tunez magnetic frag rock. It is the smaller version. I like it, it blends in more naturally to the tank. Far better then a traditional frag rack. 

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1 hour ago, Fish out of Water said:

I have the Tunez magnetic frag rock. It is the smaller version. I like it, it blends in more naturally to the tank. Far better then a traditional frag rack. 

Definitely will consider this one, I really like the look of it, much more natural. This egg crate one just makes the tank look worse honestly, but I really don’t have anything to do with all those zoa mini colonies that are on the rack, since the current garden is just small frags.

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Some pictures that really show the dinos when I stop removing them everyday: C14A5666-0C5C-42CF-916F-CD960DA1AF30.thumb.jpeg.1bf38ba2597e6af8edb7d46a6b844485.jpeg7D5B9EE9-7100-4DB6-A47F-DE633767C19D.thumb.jpeg.1944f75442718315adbdaa368c9635dd.jpeg8BE3596A-516C-46A8-9F26-D1C2BEB9FF1E.thumb.jpeg.ead2e7903d9f8e7316867f87321bbcf1.jpeg

Definitely improving, I don’t have any pictures really of when it was bad, but luckily no real losses, maybe a couple polyps melted from these zoos on the frag rack, but a lot of my nicer frags have been closed all the time to the point you can’t even tell they are there in the fts. Also wondering if some of the zoas closing is partly lack of trace elements or certain things like alk or calc, but I really don’t know because I don’t have tests for alk, calc or mag which is a pretty huge red flag lol, really need to pick some up

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Also phonetography round 2, getting better:2BD1B88F-6EC9-4C8E-ABD4-209FB7DE2D34.thumb.jpeg.f92b35c12084f9ee593e3aa5aeb8a5e5.jpeg

Blastos, kind of annoying looking at them since they are now glued on with the plugs under them, I just couldn’t get them off without feeling like I was gonna snap them in half, so I guess I’ll let them grow over it.FA7D5BC4-1A1C-4E6C-BAA8-E6086E64874C.thumb.jpeg.042b74fc7a044a3fdee9a22c0bf1643e.jpeg

Love this pair of chalk bass, haven’t been able to get a good picture of them together, smaller one is too skittish0344D882-F99C-4FF6-BD3C-BF46BC688F1E.thumb.jpeg.accad7ec93b2be8a6512237664e94b61.jpeg

One of the only frags that’s fully open, definitely has grown from being a 2 polyp fragACC49390-7B08-4C76-BB63-EDDF9D487E5B.thumb.jpeg.ab24b990aabb96c2f7ee75c3ba027fc6.jpeg

Peach hammer3E683A4E-CC3A-4F4C-AD83-A2780F2EA9C8.thumb.jpeg.729b20d4cd58d3c41532147bb451b299.jpeg

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Cynarina, basic one but a nice glowing green underneath with a pinstripe in the middle, seems to color up more every day.2C28A6D8-B211-4D4A-8BE7-E931D777DEA4.thumb.jpeg.0cf7cc5712ad3f12482ac0f5515526c4.jpegFAB7800D-37A5-4F84-BD7E-054432997025.thumb.jpeg.b232114c0bf19f1120bfed879db5a554.jpeg

Bubble coral, really love it but I wish it had more color or at least a lighter tone, kind of blends in with the rock, in the future might get a green and maybe have the both of them together 

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Haven’t been too active but i am kind of worried, I dropped 50 on a large 4 or so inch frag of milliepora, and 50 isn’t a lot but I don’t want to waste the money on it and have it waste away. Any tips on them or if my tank may be ready?

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Some more photos, this months fts, didn’t do one last month lolIMG_0011.thumb.jpeg.6dc56b6743f5af696e59607000ed08c1.jpeg

Tank is progressing, some new zoa polyps, things are still stabilizing so I don’t expect tons of growth since I’ve been cutting and re gluing stuff so much. Have an SBB order coming tomorrow, had to attach those top rocks with some epoxy so it doesn’t fall and snap the acro frags im going to try. IMG_0006.thumb.jpeg.06a7da1f625f861e590b40c727bb6a96.jpegIMG_0005.thumb.jpeg.b210891fb3ae7780d6d90ed22499d96d.jpegIMG_0004.thumb.jpeg.a300ecc1cb23fd6b971bc8537e066753.jpegIMG_0003.thumb.jpeg.687cb0c8b3bb4f94531701e246c2f1e8.jpegIMG_1125.thumb.jpeg.9fbd00b941863b8b9e12fb834b3f5fb0.jpegIMG_0001.thumb.jpeg.9d4dad3ae13d47e34c12916b6563bcb2.jpegIMG_0010.thumb.jpeg.cd1cf7d356b65de2d59137b7c5b7ea1b.jpeg

I’ve started dosing ab+, and I can definitely stand by it, much more color you can tell from the photos, especially these blastos. Dinos are no more, but I noticed feeding ab+ daily seemed to be feeding the Dino’s too, so I do it 2-3 times a week

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Okay, I need some help now.IMG_1045.thumb.jpeg.faca51d13d9271b4a4b94c695d556c08.jpeg

This is the tank now, everything is doing good but for some reason I’m just not happy with it. It’s a mix of pests and the scape. For some reason this scape just doesn’t seem to allow me to place anything without having aggression issues between coral or actually make it look good.

 

The Coris wrasse also needs to go too, he’s kicking up way to much sand onto all my stuff that I have to constantly keep off. I still find enjoyment with this tank but this scape is really limiting the potential of this tank imo, there’s just not enough surface area for stuff.

 

The main issue is bubble algae and aiptasia. As I started paying attention to my new freshwater tank and my fluval evo (not on the forum) this one kinda got put to the side.IMG_1046.thumb.jpeg.13638a3872d8fdf49dc453f8d52349ca.jpegIMG_1047.thumb.jpeg.76ef56cd98c9d69ff653667a5f03b3cc.jpeg

from afar you can’t tell, but it becomes a problem up close. Some aiptasia are getting scarily close to my prized rock flowers and some rocks are covered in bubble algae to the point nothing can grow.

 

 

So the question is now, where do I go from here? What should I do to manage the bubble and aip? Maybe reef flux and some berghias? Not sure (also noticing while typing this that I’ve got some bryopsis on the frag rack) I’m probably over exaggerating, but the tank just doesn’t seem to work in my favor, everything does pretty well and grows at a decent rate, but everything is kinda just scattered.

 

Could somebody help me with a possible rescape, pest solution or just rearrangement of coral? 

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Regarding pest control;  Your basslet and coris are unlikely to let a berghia work undisturbed.
An emerald crab or two will help control the bubble algae.  Although I generally don't trust crabs (every crab is an opportunistic feeder,) emeralds are usually pretty chill.

Your biggest impact (and what I would recommend) is going to be repeated manual removal of both pests.  Take care when removing bubble algae and avoid popping any of the bubbles.  My preferred treatment for aiptasia is Aiptasia X but if you ask 20 people what to use you'll get a dozen different answers and most of them will work.


Regarding your hardscape and coral arrangement;  First - be patient.  It takes a long time for a colony to obscure a frag plug (one of the reasons I remove the coral from the plug, personally.)  Once your stuff has time to grow out and fill in gaps you'll be happier with it.  Let them figure their own boundaries out with time.

You can also get creative.  I've seen a number of DIY and off-the-shelf solutions for mounting coral against the back wall or utilizing more natural frag racks and mounts!  Utilize encrusting corals.

Consider how someone will look at your tank and where their eye will go.  Right now when I look at your FTS the first things I notice are the sacrophyton.  Not just because I love them, but because you've put them at the midline and they're a larger coral with extended polyps and high contrast between them and the rock.  My eye goes to the plerogyra next and down to the zoanthid garden.  I look down and over to the cynarina and trachyphyllia in the foreground then follow the blastomussa up to the euphyllia.  The only thing I look up to see so far are the two prominent acropora and the shelf of montipora between 11:30 and 1:30.  Help move the viewers eye around the tank.  Put disparate texture and color together. Let corals extend into the water column.  Mount corals sidewise - have fun with it.  Your tank looks quite good I think you're being hard on yourself!

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41 minutes ago, BadCrab said:

Regarding pest control;  Your basslet and coris are unlikely to let a berghia work undisturbed.
An emerald crab or two will help control the bubble algae.  Although I generally don't trust crabs (every crab is an opportunistic feeder,) emeralds are usually pretty chill.

Your biggest impact (and what I would recommend) is going to be repeated manual removal of both pests.  Take care when removing bubble algae and avoid popping any of the bubbles.  My preferred treatment for aiptasia is Aiptasia X but if you ask 20 people what to use you'll get a dozen different answers and most of them will work.


Regarding your hardscape and coral arrangement;  First - be patient.  It takes a long time for a colony to obscure a frag plug (one of the reasons I remove the coral from the plug, personally.)  Once your stuff has time to grow out and fill in gaps you'll be happier with it.  Let them figure their own boundaries out with time.

You can also get creative.  I've seen a number of DIY and off-the-shelf solutions for mounting coral against the back wall or utilizing more natural frag racks and mounts!  Utilize encrusting corals.

Consider how someone will look at your tank and where their eye will go.  Right now when I look at your FTS the first things I notice are the sacrophyton.  Not just because I love them, but because you've put them at the midline and they're a larger coral with extended polyps and high contrast between them and the rock.  My eye goes to the plerogyra next and down to the zoanthid garden.  I look down and over to the cynarina and trachyphyllia in the foreground then follow the blastomussa up to the euphyllia.  The only thing I look up to see so far are the two prominent acropora and the shelf of montipora between 11:30 and 1:30.  Help move the viewers eye around the tank.  Put disparate texture and color together. Let corals extend into the water column.  Mount corals sidewise - have fun with it.  Your tank looks quite good I think you're being hard on yourself!

Thanks for this! Lots of great advice, I did kill that big aip in the picture with some leftover aiptasia x, and I risked throwing in an old emerald that was in my other tank into this one.

 

I don’t mind waiting for things to grow out, but for some reason I just don’t think the tank looks cohesive, just like a mess. Will definitely this advise though! As I add more and rearrange, I’ll definitely begin to think about the shape, size and color of each coral meticulously.

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5 hours ago, BadCrab said:

Regarding pest control;  Your basslet and coris are unlikely to let a berghia work undisturbed.
An emerald crab or two will help control the bubble algae.  Although I generally don't trust crabs (every crab is an opportunistic feeder,) emeralds are usually pretty chill.

Your biggest impact (and what I would recommend) is going to be repeated manual removal of both pests.  Take care when removing bubble algae and avoid popping any of the bubbles.  My preferred treatment for aiptasia is Aiptasia X but if you ask 20 people what to use you'll get a dozen different answers and most of them will work.


Regarding your hardscape and coral arrangement;  First - be patient.  It takes a long time for a colony to obscure a frag plug (one of the reasons I remove the coral from the plug, personally.)  Once your stuff has time to grow out and fill in gaps you'll be happier with it.  Let them figure their own boundaries out with time.

You can also get creative.  I've seen a number of DIY and off-the-shelf solutions for mounting coral against the back wall or utilizing more natural frag racks and mounts!  Utilize encrusting corals.

Consider how someone will look at your tank and where their eye will go.  Right now when I look at your FTS the first things I notice are the sacrophyton.  Not just because I love them, but because you've put them at the midline and they're a larger coral with extended polyps and high contrast between them and the rock.  My eye goes to the plerogyra next and down to the zoanthid garden.  I look down and over to the cynarina and trachyphyllia in the foreground then follow the blastomussa up to the euphyllia.  The only thing I look up to see so far are the two prominent acropora and the shelf of montipora between 11:30 and 1:30.  Help move the viewers eye around the tank.  Put disparate texture and color together. Let corals extend into the water column.  Mount corals sidewise - have fun with it.  Your tank looks quite good I think you're being hard on yourself!

I also had one more question, how can I really get corals off frag plugs? Like zoas, or some of those lps with a delicate base like hammers and the trachy 

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2 hours ago, wuzzo said:

I also had one more question, how can I really get corals off frag plugs? Like zoas, or some of those lps with a delicate base like hammers and the trachy 


Usually, the coral is attached to a bit of substrate or a hunk of superglue and not directly on the plug.  Honestly? I use a flathead screwdriver and downward force to separate the two.  If a softy has overgrown its substrate (like when a couple of polyps are growing onto the edge of the plug) I just use a razor blade to cut/scrape it as best I can.

For something that will be on the substrate, I'd just bury the plug.  Bone cutters will take even stubborn stony corals off of mariculture plates and plugs.

Aside from aesthetics, there is a practical reason to remove them from these bases: nuisance algae hitchhike there.  Getting rid of the plug isn't a guarantee you'll avoid the algae or other pests, of course.  But generally, the less you add to your tank that isn't the coral the better.

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Usually, the coral is attached to a bit of substrate or a hunk of superglue and not directly on the plug.  Honestly? I use a flathead screwdriver and downward force to separate the two.  If a softy has overgrown its substrate (like when a couple of polyps are growing onto the edge of the plug) I just use a razor blade to cut/scrape it as best I can.

For something that will be on the substrate, I'd just bury the plug.  Bone cutters will take even stubborn stony corals off of mariculture plates and plugs.

Aside from aesthetics, there is a practical reason to remove them from these bases: nuisance algae hitchhike there.  Getting rid of the plug isn't a guarantee you'll avoid the algae or other pests, of course.  But generally, the less you add to your tank that isn't the coral the better.

Alright cool, I’ll work a little on regluing and moving some things tomorrow, I think I know where I wanna place some stuff now.

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IMG_1083.thumb.jpeg.ad47b8bdfb2a2e607fbaa8390e3fd605.jpegAlright, did a water change and tried to remove a little bubble algae, rearranged and reglued some things that had a weak bond. Removed that frag rack and put those leftover fast growing zoa morphs in my fluval evo. I think just removing the frag rack and really getting to the algae on the sides of the glass improved the tank a lot. Looks much less cluttered, and I can actually see my prized rock flowers. Began to think about color theory and just contrast, swapped the places of those hammers, moved the goni and some other things. There is lots of green in this tank, but that just comes with any reef.

 

Was kind of lazy with the fts, I’ll try and take a clearer one tomorrow.

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