Entranced Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Got this one 4/5 days ago, it opened the first day but from the second onwards it has looked like this Anyone knows whats up with it? Can it be that my nitrates are 0? Quote Link to comment
Swymer Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 How old is the tank? Quote Link to comment
growsomething Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 They do like nutrients. 2 Quote Link to comment
jefferythewind Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 maybe also check phosphates and ammonia Quote Link to comment
Entranced Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 Looking worse by the day. It's a 23ish gallon tank, no water changes Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, and phos are 0 Dkh 11 (using a freshwater test so may be off) Ph between 7.8 and 8.0 Even tho i feed a lot, 3 or 4 times a day, and currently stopped my skimmer so no filtration except for 10kilos of live rock Im starting to think that my dinos are eating all the nutrients. My tank is around 2 months old I have gsp, a softie similar to kenya tree but not exactly and mushrooms, all doing good, except maybe the gsp that only shows 50% of the polyps Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Entranced said: Ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, and phos are 0 As pointed out above, it wants nutrients (phosphate and nitrate). Same for your GSP. 12 minutes ago, Entranced said: Im starting to think that my dinos are eating all the nutrients. Have you confirmed dinos? If you have dinos, you will also need to bring nutrients up. To treat dinos, I'd probably boost phosphate up to at least 0.10 ppm and nitrate to around 10 ppm. This might help your xenia too. There are supplements that you can dose to increase the inorganic nutrients in your tank. Brightwell's come to mind: https://www.amazon.com/Brightwell-Aquatics-Phosphorus-Supplement-Ultra-Low/dp/B00Y01KY4M https://www.amazon.com/Brightwell-Aquatics-NeoNitro-Supplement-Ultra-Low/dp/B00Y01KXWU/ 2 Quote Link to comment
jefferythewind Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Nitrates and Phospahtes at zero is a big problem, Phosphates being more crucial. You need a minimum level of phosphates for most corals to survive. Optimal is said to be between 0.04 and 0.08 PPM. 2 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, jefferythewind said: Optimal is said to be between 0.04 and 0.08 PPM. With at least 0.10 when trying to get rid of dinos. But make sure that you have confirmed dinos and not just diatoms and/or cyano. In general, high phosphate is better tolerated than too low phosphate. I'd say that 0.03 ppm is a decent minimum number when not dealing with dinos. Dosing is the easiest way to raise it without adding a bunch of wastes and organics. 1 Quote Link to comment
ubpr Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Could be reaction on high alkalinity salt mix, bad combination with zero phosphates or nitrates. 7-8 dKH is more mild until you bring nutrients up. Quote Link to comment
Swymer Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 People also claim dkh and pH are important for xenia. I don't know that much about xenia so I'm not sure how true it is. But... If it were me, I'd get a quality alk test kit, adjust as necessary and make sure your pH has reached it's full potential. Probably around 8.2 - 8.3. If your alkalinity is at least 8 dkh and your pH is flat you probably need more surface agitation to bring in more oxygen to drive off C02 to bring the pH up. Quote Link to comment
jcrisman2009 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 4:34 PM, Entranced said: Got this one 4/5 days ago, it opened the first day but from the second onwards it has looked like this Anyone knows whats up with it? Can it be that my nitrates are 0? That is a very big possibility! What are your readings for nitrates and phosphates? Quote Link to comment
Entranced Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 5:24 PM, jcrisman2009 said: That is a very big possibility! What are your readings for nitrates and phosphates? That xenia is long gone, i'm still wanting to get one but i struggle keeping nutrients up till this day. I have 4 fish on a 23 gallon tank and thinking about getting a 5th since the bioload doesnt seem to bee that high. I had to deal with 2 blooms of dinos because of that as well. My nitrate and phosphates are both undetectable Quote Link to comment
DevilDuck Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Have you considered dosing nitrate and phosphate instead of adding more bioload? Quote Link to comment
Entranced Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 Phosphate i dose flourish phosphorous, now for nitrates there are no products sold in my country for that purpose except for maybe potasium and sodium nitrate, etc. Which i don't even know if its food grade, they use it for making incense sticks. Quote Link to comment
Jakesaw Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 The GSP will survive 0 nutrients and revive itself when you get them up. That was my experience. One of my first corals had no polyps for months. When I got the nutrients up - it's out every day now like a dense swaying bush. Grown out quite a bit in surface area too. Gonna have to cut some back to keep it off my LR. Quote Link to comment
travoose Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Let the tank run a bit more on the dirty side. Quote Link to comment
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