Jump to content
M. Tournesol

the salty puddle

Recommended Posts

M. Tournesol

Hi every one,

 

Long lurker one the forum and newbie in the aquarium hobby, I persuaded myself to start my first aquarium one the salty side of the hobby. I have chosen an ADA 60F for its big foot print for it countenance and its mall size factor. indeed, as I will move in 1 year, the tank needed to be small to be easily moveable .

 

Here some recent photos of the tank:

 

1 October 2021

IMG_3949.png.62a358c70bb5da57c2da5b98d7718b3f.png

 

22 August 2021

IMG_3787.thumb.JPG.8300ce6757d73f48b041b987c3b44645.JPG

10 February 2021

IMG_2816.thumb.png.68d2b7355cb11eebc5b1676cc8371cae.png

IMG_2817.thumb.png.1a51696cb6daebd344fbfea185712110.png

 

This aquarium was born the 29/12/2020 and stocked with 7kg (15.4 lbs) of live rock the next day. The sand (CARIBSEA OCEANDIRECT ORIGINAL GRADE) was added the 6/02/2021 due to the fact that the ADA Garden Mat wasn't in stock for a long time.

 

Here, one of the first photos of the tank:

IMG_2698.thumb.png.21f8e881b27554426e84dd00e8df4ad1.png


The Vision driving this build is a pocciloporidae only tank with a colony of trapezia poccilopora and a shrimp goby pair. The filtration was designed to be natural or "dirty" with only water change and, some time, carbon. It is composed of a canister filter cryptic zone, algae reactor in reverse daylight for PH stability and an inline heater.

13097877_filtrationaquarium.thumb.png.24804f8330190d6d96e37a1bbd54423a.png

IMG_3803.thumb.png.b7151a78f945ca9be6ec025d24dde8ae.png

 

Snails

  • Cerith sp (x3)
  • Cyprea annulus 
  • Nassarius coronatus
  • Astralium sp

Noteworthy hitchhiker

  • Gonodactylus smithii

Fishes

  • Koumansetta rainfordi
  • Cryptocentrus cinctus (captive-bred)

Corals

  • Pocillopora (x3)
  • Seriatopora (x5)
  • Stylophora (x3)

Anthozoa

  • Zoanthus (x2)

Equipement

  • EHEIL classic 350
  • Tunze algae reactor 3181
  • Nero 3
  • Red Sea ReefWave 25 
  • Hydor In-Line External Heater 200W
  • GNC bluray M

Chemistry 

  • ro-di water
  • salt instant ocean
  • aqua medic densimeter
  • aqua medic (broken?) refractometer
  • salifer for NO3, NO2, PO4, CA, MG, KH/ALK, PH, NH3
  • carbon EHEIM AKTIV

Food 

  • Easy reef boosternano
  • DIY frozen food
  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Going full live rock do give me some joy and some stress. 
I've had some good surprise: 

  • funny algae

IMG_2754.thumb.png.2f07f88b341b59c29deb22aa56f8a973.png

  • strange monsters

 

IMG_2771.png.4123b29a523fecb0390c6dc579c9404a.pngIMG_2781.png.67c83069287dddaa39ef5bc4f2a5367e.png

  • and a wedding dance of Pontomyia natans (####ing sea insect)

IMG_2768.thumb.png.cb11a5fbf316c1e0aad4952b83f3ea37.png

IMG_2772.thumb.png.411270633334e15681e59df58ef3e96f.png

and some less good:

  • bryopsi?

IMG_2812.thumb.png.2d887ef5778f015cd567fd70136f6281.png

  • bubble algae (Boergesenia forbesii and some Valonia macrophy)

IMG_2825.thumb.png.ed38617d8e1aa18261fe5dbd987444ce.png

  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

I do admit that looking at all the spotless tanks and all my pest algae, I'm starting to doubt this choice 🤷‍♂️

Share this post


Link to post
Zer0

That is indeed the double-edged sword of live rock; you get all of the interesting and widely varied hitchhikers, however, some, arguably most, are considered pests and/or less than ideal additions to a reef aquarium. And these are just the pests that you can see lol. 
 

That being said, it’s still doable to continue on with your plans, but I think you will need to accept the possibility that some coral/invertebrates that you add might be casualties of any predacious pests. 
 

Still though, I really love the tank so far and I look forward to seeing how things develop, whatever you decide.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
gen

I can only share your feeling, but I think in the long term and "survivability" of the whole tank, going with live rock is potentially better. Unless you have a very specific idea of what you going to keep in. 

 

Some pests will die off, other will thrive until you add inhabitants and a new balance appears. I started with live rock and watched a green / purple algae tank for some weeks, along with a few coral pieces. I was worried but also impressed with all the life thriving in the algae (pods mostly). 

After some manual removing the algae never grew as it was, and corals started to grow instead. 

 

I think this diversity helps with the balance in the end, and prevents some failures you could meet with cleaner "starts". 

Don't take my word for it, I still consider myself a beginner and I only relinquish on my interpretation of things. 

Share this post


Link to post
debbeach13

I think you are off to a great start and lucky you found live rock to start with.. You have to put up with some pests but I am a firm believer the good out weighs the bad in live rock. Plus it is so entertaining compared starting with to dry rock. I like your thread title.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Thank you all. It's been 2 years since I started locking into reef keeping. The biodiversity aspect and symbiotic relationship are really what did drive me to test it. One of the original plan was to go with a Jaubert plenum (a french forum dedicated to it exist). For size/weight limitation I chose to go for a dirty approach after seeing @WV Reefer reefs.

 

A little update on the puddle, all seem to be ok. Looking at it is like looking at a piece of wild grass. It's also a paradise for amphipod. I did count 50-60 amphipods just one the front glass.

IMG_2863.thumb.png.caffbd174a8fdbb293257e54e98ffff6.png

IMG_2861.thumb.png.e664b4d72017d88688473cbac3c6f558.pngIMG_2859.thumb.png.7ba009465500a29adac64cd304335f6d.png

As you can see in the first picture, my ceriths did naughty think. It is the second time that they did produce egg in the tank. 
here a photo of the egg and another of the three guilty snails(one may be innocent).

IMG_2857.thumb.png.b5228d34b8675e795ba8487a73cc917b.png

IMG_2843.thumb.png.724b82096b6ed404be9f2a0e9fb4fe40.png

My first test for ammonia did return < 0.15ppm of total ammonia (< ~0.0132ppm free ammonia for 8.2 ph and 26 °C), nitrite and nitrate are still super low (respectively below 0.01 and 0.2). I should be ready for the fishes and if think go south, I do have some "ammo stop". The only think that I am missing is frozen food. 

 

The seller has a mated pair of yasha gobies. With it, I ordered 2 cypraea annulus (ring cowrie), a alpheus randalli, 2 sabelle sp and my first (test) coral (a pink seriatopora hystrix). 

Edited by M. Tournesol
  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

To late, no yasha mated pair 😢. It will be a unique nematodes (Black-ray goby) with a randalli.

Everybody should arrive Wednesday 🎉.

Share this post


Link to post
gen

To be honest, the scape looks nice even with the current algae. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol
8 hours ago, gen said:

To be honest, the scape looks nice even with the current algae. 

Thank you, 

I need to do a post of how this scape was constructed. Maybe this weekend if I have some courage. 

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

What a day. I ordered a cover Friday, since I will receive my second fish Wednesday, and my goby decided after 2~3 month in the puddle to jump tonight 😱.
 
He is back in the aquarium since I was in my room when the event append 😅.
If he decides to not jump between now and Tuesday (when I will receive the cover), he will have a new friend.
 
I will do an update one this tank Monday-Tuesday. Writing is really not my strong suit 😬.

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Bad news, the fish must have jump a second-time yesterdays 😕. I did find its poor little corpse today under a furniture 😰

Maybe its pistol shrimp died (it's been 3-4 days since I heard his "click") and the stress was too much for him.

The mantis shrimp seem to still be alive with all my snails... 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

bye bye little fish!

IMG_3006.png.9e09d3220f8eb52da42df22341fb485e.png

bye bye little shrimp that may be dead!

IMG_3022.png.5114e7b4a8fcf162ff8cebb667eb69c1.png

 

What a bad pet owner I am 😔

 

 

  • Sad 2

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

The cover for the tank will arrive tomorrow 😑.
The second/now only fish will arrive Wednesday. It's a Court Jester Goby (Koumansetta rainfordi). 

Hope he will live it full lifespan with me 🤞.

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

I have a hate-love relationship with my Astralium snail 🤬.

IMG_3671.thumb.png.e736ebebfdc3e2e143a6fb365e30039e.png

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

😬 I think some of my pest algae is going sexual.

I have an air pump. hope it will be enough.

 

IMG_3672.thumb.png.8b8b868d3e777c8d59852dc510bb211b.png

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

It happens 😣.
Just now, most of my corals polyp (pocilloporidae, acropora, and zoanthus) are close 😱. My algae did go sexual this morning.

 IMG_3673.thumb.png.0a2ecf4906aa2eea79c99a60137fccdd.png

The solution: an old bag of carbon, an aerator, and prayer 🙏.

IMG_3675.thumb.png.908366e814fa562399268bf047a2175f.pngIMG_3674.thumb.png.7342967620cb3ec1a483beb79b6d5656.png

If the situation does not better itself in 4-6h, I will prepare a water change.

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Now that the light is at its maximum intensity, here a better photo of the incriminated algae.

IMG_3676.thumb.png.bb2290ad29a3168e0beb076a7a9ae3ce.png

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Look at my poor poor corals 😭 (the one on the sand in the first picture is in recuperation mode. I think his previous position had too much flow for him.).

IMG_3677.thumb.png.893fc554eaa34b5ef16a75b2220ade96.pngIMG_3678.thumb.png.0693daaadfc72ebf45994c8933727a7d.pngIMG_3679.thumb.png.8b99bf34d13038d1527be67bf0d25934.png

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

A quick post to brag about having, since ~3 weeks, a thriving Acropora tenuis frag in my  first reef tank 😆.

Thank you live rock 🙏 even if your mantis shrimp gift is still a thorn in my side.

 

IMG_3710.thumb.JPG.e55b833191abf68c8dc9ca7b7e63fa01.JPG

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Here is a quick screen capture of a video I made to see if my YWM goby would eat the new DIY frozen food.

You can see, in one picture, my two lovely fishes that I added 3 months ago.

My court jester goby (Koumansetta rainfordi wild-caught ) that eat only live food 😅 and my yellow watchman goby ( Cryptocentrus cinctus captive-bred). Once the mantis shrimp is out of the tank, I will give him a friendly tiger pistol shrimp  (Alpheus bellulus).

1115699175_Capturedcran2021-08-1617_44_44.thumb.png.ecdbf8d13b04dfae297fcdddfdc1ec68.png

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Today or tomorrow, I will surely experience my first coral death.

 

 IMG_3753.thumb.png.9785fbfb0ff45736a066deab10547d4b.png


This coral was never happy in my system. My first error was to change it place to a zone where there was a "lot of flow". three weeks later, it has started to RTN.
At this time, I decided to move it to a zone with low flow. For 1 month it was in a state of survival. yesterdays, adding the DIY food + the water change must have been too many changes at one time. the coral is finishing to RTN. I move it again as a last desperate effort as this zone didn't seem to please him very much 😭. Hope the other corals don't see him and think "what a good idea, let also RTN 🎉".

 

IMG_3754.thumb.png.376da7ef601ca949d47ccfd5f2a0c867.png

  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

#### this sissy sps coral that does not like "strong" flow. since the first day I have him, he was never happy after a water change and never happy after fish feeding time. I am eager to have a new stone 😆.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Still alive five days later 🤪. I will start calling him "Schrödinger Stylo".

IMG_3775.thumb.JPG.21a5c15b5cbfe8a8c57d4aab10d59995.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
M. Tournesol

Bonus:

 The beauty of pest algae

IMG_3782.thumb.JPG.673c096c1e3949d3554bac98143f4be0.JPG

IMG_3788.thumb.JPG.5f39601134000fd3bd64180e70e66514.JPG

IMG_3784.thumb.JPG.8bc0cc315f2cda3511d4e48902d2bd40.JPG

IMG_3791.thumb.JPG.c671540c992b09634e787eb063ca9e99.JPG

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recommended Discussions

×
×
  • Create New...