NicoB0817 Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 He seems to be doing much better now, he finally has his fins and head up again and I watched him eat. (Good considering a few days ago he was scooting himself a cross the ground with his fins) 1 Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Sounds like he is healing up! Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Ignore the hermit crabs eating the snail Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 (ignore the hermit crabs eating the snail) Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 9:34 AM, NicoB0817 said: Ignore the hermit crabs eating the snail Looks much better! Seems to have good layer of skin over the wound now 🙂 Quote Link to comment
Elizabeth94 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Your hermit crabs are ruthless! Just read through your thread. He looks good. Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 Yes, and the red hermit crabs are now killing and eating each other. And today I got the Goby a shrimp Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 9, 2020 Author Share Posted August 9, 2020 But my fish store said they would take the hermit crabs back 🙂 Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 Sadly I had to euthinize the Goby, he was getting eaten to death by hermit crabs and didn't have much time left, he was still breathing and he didn't have enough time left for a clove oil euthinizeation so we just had to flush him. (Sorry for spelling) 4 Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, NicoB0817 said: Sadly I had to euthinize the Goby, he was getting eaten to death by hermit crabs and didn't have much time left, he was still breathing and he didn't have enough time left for a clove oil euthinizeation so we just had to flush him. (Sorry for spelling) Well, I am sorry for your loss and am glad you made the right decision for the goby. Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 I've got no idea why my hermit crabs have done this, the tank is literally having a giant algae bloom and I've been feeding them enough food, but they'd rather kill my snails... Anyone got any idea on why this is happening? Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 And the Goby was out and about perfectly healthy an hour ago, had his fins up and happy as can be. Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Hermits are opportunistic and will grab an overturned snail or such. They will also sense something dying or sick and take advantage. The same goes for nass snails, worms and so on. Crabs are just a bit more bold and fast. 1 Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 They flipped and ate over 10 snails in a week, not even taking there shell, and some of them just minutes after we got them. Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 If you have to euthanize something in the future, please don't flush it. That's not humane at all. It just leads to the fish dying of chlorine poisoning and being in freshwater for too long. If a fish is in too much distress for clove oil, the kindest thing to do is crush its skull. Gruesome, but instant. It's also my go-to for lizards that a cat has gotten at. Can you post a pic of the hermits? They do sound unusually ravenous. Maybe you don't have red legs. Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 I did crush it, and the store said that they were red and blue legs. I'll have to wait for my light to change to get a good picture Quote Link to comment
debbeach13 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Sorry about the goby. If the store said they will take the hermit back return them and then you can have snails again. Is the new shrimp doing OK? Will you get him a new fish? Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 I am getting him a new Goby today, hopefully he is still alive because I saw a hermit crab go into its hole so... Quote Link to comment
debbeach13 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, NicoB0817 said: I saw a hermit crab go into its hole so... get rid of those murderers. 2 Quote Link to comment
TerraIncognita Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Tamberav said: Hermits are opportunistic and will grab an overturned snail or such. They will also sense something dying or sick and take advantage. The same goes for nass snails, worms and so on. Crabs are just a bit more bold and fast. +1 Hermits are little devils actually. they have 0 empathy. 1 Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Of course they don't, they're basically bugs. They aren't social, so they have no reason to have evolved empathy. Or any comprehension of the effects of their actions. They're opportunists, without the capacity to understand any harm they might be doing. That's what animals do. Some are just more equipped to be a problem than others. I would return those, they sound really aggressive. Scarlet reef hermits may be worth a try, if you want hermits- they're the most docile ones you can get. The only trouble mine have caused is that one of them knocks things over sometimes because he lifts them up to look under them. And I think they killed some snails when I was underfeeding the tank, but, honestly, that's entirely fair. I can't exactly fault them for killing and eating food when they weren't getting enough food from other places. Quote Link to comment
TerraIncognita Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tired said: Of course they don't, they're basically bugs. They aren't social, so they have no reason to have evolved empathy. Or any comprehension of the effects of their actions. They're opportunists, without the capacity to understand any harm they might be doing. That's what animals do. Some are just more equipped to be a problem than others. I would return those, they sound really aggressive. Scarlet reef hermits may be worth a try, if you want hermits- they're the most docile ones you can get. The only trouble mine have caused is that one of them knocks things over sometimes because he lifts them up to look under them. And I think they killed some snails when I was underfeeding the tank, but, honestly, that's entirely fair. I can't exactly fault them for killing and eating food when they weren't getting enough food from other places. Dude.... obviously I don't think Hermits have Empathy, or any Emotion complexes.... Quote Link to comment
NicoB0817 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 Well, it was eather the peppermint shrimp or the hermit crabs, because on Sunday I got a peppermint shrimp and it was standing beside the Goby, and the Goby had all of his scales taken off and had tons of holes in his fins. I don't know exactly what killed him yet. Anyone have experience with peppermint shrimp eating fish? Quote Link to comment
Tired Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Unless the shrimp was much bigger than the fish, I don't think it would have the oomph to do anything. Freshwater ghost shrimp will try and kill small fish, but the fish has to be smaller than them. And re. hermit empathy, you'd be surprised how much malice people will attribute to animals incapable of it. Worst example I've seen is a poultry forum with a couple of members who drown trapped varmints because they think the varmints are being malicious in killing their chickens. Oh, and wasps- people tend to think wasps sting them out of malice. Less concerning than the actual animal cruelty, but much more widespread. Quote Link to comment
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