sapling Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, MrObscura said: Yea I'll definitely be dipping all corals. Haha I’m sorry I was on break and misread! I’d still suggest doing the acclimation at the same time of the dip to make the transition smoother, I know snails for example can’t handle salinity changes well. Generally for most inverts, due to osmotic shock, that’s why the advice is given that if your salinity is too low or high than your target salinity, you slowly raise/lower it, over the course of time Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 I don't doubt people much more experienced than I have had great success with acclimation but based on my research just as many have success with a dip and then straight into the tank. Reef cleaners even voids their warranty on inverts if you acclimate as it can be far more stressful than any initial shock of going straight into the tank. I appreciate your input though. On a side note. Rather than going with a number of zoas and shrooms I'm thinking maybe get 4-5 diifrent corals to spread around the tank. Thinking a Zoa and shroom for down low, a hammer and or lord for the mid, then a Monti cap up top since I've heard they're pretty hardy. Are lords and hammers OK for a newly cycled tank? How about Duncan's and chalices? Quote Link to comment
sapling Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Apologies, From personal experience, Acans and hammers can go into a tank with a finished cycle that’s stable without issue. 1 Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 What are you apologizing for? Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Hey, quick question... I'm doing a wc tonight and I'm planning to get some corals tomorrow, is there any reason I can't keep some of the water to use as my rinse for the coral dip? Quote Link to comment
Daniel91 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I cannot see why not, if same salinity as your current DT, it should be more than fine. Quote Link to comment
Floundering_Around Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I'd imagine the water would go stale if not filtered and moving Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Floundering_Around said: I'd imagine the water would go stale if not filtered and moving Within 24 hours? Plus don't people store saltwater? I could just keep it in a bucket with a pump running though. Edit: since I'm doing a water change, I think I'll just mix up more water than I need and keep that circulating with a heater until I need it. That makes more sense. 1 Quote Link to comment
banasophia Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 5 hours ago, MrObscura said: Within 24 hours? Plus don't people store saltwater? I could just keep it in a bucket with a pump running though. Edit: since I'm doing a water change, I think I'll just mix up more water than I need and keep that circulating with a heater until I need it. That makes more sense. I’ve recently been using the method you are considering for your corals without the floating/acclimation... dip according to dip instructions and use something to squirt the dip water over the coral/into crevices (and inspect it and usually remove from the frag plug while dipping it), then rinse in water from the tank to get the dip off, then pop into tank... so far so good. I did this on corals from last weekend and today. I don’t know if I would try it on expensive corals though... all of my recent corals have been from the $10 frag section. Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Through my research it seems the vast majority skip acclimation and just dip and add to the tank. Maybe a quick float for temp. Based on what I've read I plan to do it with all my corals. Granted, I plan fill my tank with mostly frags around 20 bucks, with maybe a 30-40 dollar coral here and there. But I would do it with an expensive coral without thinking twice about it. While there's no actual evidence that acclimation actually does anything to increases an animals odds of survival, the acclimation process can definitely do harm. It's just not worth it imo. Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 It's officially a reef. Added 7 corals today. Got them all from this guy who runs a place out of his house, and it's more impressive than any actual lfs I've been to. He has tons of coral at amazing prices. In all I added a birdsnest, mystic sunset Monti, a green lord, a purple tipped hammer, some red people eaters, utter chaos, and a no name purple chalice with yellow eyes. I wanted to get as much of the plug off but that didn't go as planned so I settled for simply cutting off the stem. I also struggled with gluing them down with just super glue so for now I just have them wedged in the general area I'd like them and will epoxy in a few days if they are happy. This isn't the best Pic but... 3 Quote Link to comment
Daniel91 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Nice! Give us some close ups! 1 Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 They're not great pics(I'm trying to find a camera app with decent white balance control), but ask and you shall receive... 2 Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Picked up a Duncan for 5 bucks. Quote Link to comment
Daniel91 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, MrObscura said: Picked up a Duncan for 5 bucks. Well stop teasing and show us a pic! Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 He's still closed up and I'm heading out. But I'll take one later. Quote Link to comment
Daniel91 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Looks nice! He’ll be massive in no time. 1 Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 The hammer has really opened up now... Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Everything's doing pretty well but I have a bit of an issue... I've noticed a little algea dispite light feeding and figured it was introduced from the frag plugs which it was. But I figured a water change and a cuc would take care of it. I'm planning to get the cuc tomorrow and was just about to do the water change when I decided to test my tds. Turns out my LFSs water has high tds. The last batch didnt so I trusted them but now my tanks been being topped off with high tds water and I have no water to do a WC. Is Walmart distilled water safe to use? Edit:on bright note, my top off water is from a different batch and reads zero tds... So that's good. I'll just get some good water tomarrow and do a water change then. My main concern is that while most of the corals are looking good, the lord had a bit of algea on the plug which is now encroaching on the coral itself. In retrospect I should have done a better job cleaning up the plugs before placing the coral in my tank but it was my first batch and I didn't really think about it. Anyway, The algae may have even killed off part of a small head and there's some on the larger heads as well. What should I do? Quote Link to comment
banasophia Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think most grocery store distilled water in the sealed jugs are okay, just check the TDS to be sure. Not sure about the algae on your coral. 😞 Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 I had a little distilled on hand for other uses and tested tds just to see and it was 0, so at least I know that in a pinch I can use it if needed. But in the end I just skipped feeding the fish so I could push back the WC until tomorrow when I can get some water. On a side note, I think the lord might be alright. I blew/brushed away what algea I could and my male clown has done a pretty good job tonight eating the longer stands. My only real concern is for a small partially developed head with exposed skeleton that's covered in algea. But the fleshy part of that head and the rest of the heads are bright and colorful. So hopefully it'll be fine. I'm not sure how lords grow so it might not be receding but rather growing onto new skeleton? Oh and I'm definitely going into the lfs I got this water from to let them know what's up. One jug reads 85 for tds and the other 105. That's inexcusable. 1 Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Well, got a cuc. I Got one trochus, 3 narssarius, 2 ceriths, 3 Dwarf blue hermits and 3 what were called red leg hermits, but only 1 is red. With the other two 1 is actually blue and the other is kind of zebra pattetned. They are a little big so I worry about them irritating corals but they are good workers having already started cleaning up the tank. I also went into the lfs with the high tds water. They tested their water, which tested fine but then tested it after sitting in one of their containers for 10 minutes and it read high. They said they are food grade but maybe need to be rinsed better than the ones from their old supplier. Anyway they rinsed mine out and filled them for free and as if now they read 0 tds. Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Turns out 1 of the Dwarf hermits is just an extremely tiny, and empty, shell I payed 2 bucks for. 1 Quote Link to comment
MrObscura Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Crappy pics, with a couple of photobombing clowns, but... Starburst Monti cap and strawberry shortcake acro. Quote Link to comment
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