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2 minutes ago, DSFIRSTSLTWATER said:

wow, I'll look into it also. I can always return the inkbird..I may just keep it anyways, back up. I didn't know the probe part comes off, that's also good to know. I though it was on the controller where you replace it.

 

edit: watching a youtube video on the autoaqua now lol

I’m not sure if it’s detachable on all models but this one is and it comes with extra replacement probe. 

Cheers

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1 minute ago, A Little Blue said:

I’m not sure if it’s detachable on all models but this one is and it comes with extra replacement probe. 

Cheers

I'm going to look at now to see if it unscrews..I'll be back lol

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Just now, DSFIRSTSLTWATER said:

I'm going to look at now to see if it unscrews..I'll be back lol

Like I said, some of them are not detachable. After looking closer into my spare unit (not detachable one) there is only one way to replace the probe. But that requires opening the unit plastic shell. If you don’t feel confident with that kind of solution, the unit I posted earlier might be a better option. 

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1 minute ago, A Little Blue said:

Like I said, some of them are not detachable. After looking closer into my spare unit (not detachable one) there is only one way to replace the probe. But that requires opening the unit plastic shell. If you don’t feel confident with that kind of solution, the unit I posted earlier might be a better option. 

I appreciate all the help 😀 Learn something new today. I'm not sure what to get now lol. I know I need a new heater friday, I was thinking the cobalt neotherm, I heard those hold temp really well.

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7 minutes ago, DSFIRSTSLTWATER said:

ok so I watched a video, I looks like you can't set a temp, you have to rely on the heater controls. Seems like you could have swings in the 72-84 range if the heater control wasn't good enough.

No you can’t. It’s just a safeguard to prevent overheating/cooling. It also sends alert if that happens. Inkbird got about 2 degrees temp swing. Cobalt heaters swing by 0.2-0.4 degrees. So they are quite spot on as far as temp stability is concerned. 

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4 minutes ago, DSFIRSTSLTWATER said:

Ohhh, can't wait to see them. Gotta live through other peoples tanks cause my tank is maxed out at two fish lol.

So is my 30l bit I need to address some troublesome issue with lobophora algea. Hopefully this fish can help with that. 

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1 minute ago, A Little Blue said:

So is my 30l bit I need to address some troublesome issue with lobophora algea. Hopefully this fish can help with that. 

Well good luck sir :smilie:

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28 minutes ago, A Little Blue said:

Ordered new fish fo 30l and some red leg crabs. Don’t ask. 

 

What fish ? 

 

And as for to many is there such a thing :lol: I probably have to many in my 100 but they all get along. 

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16 minutes ago, spectra said:

 

What fish ? 

 

And as for to many is there such a thing :lol: I probably have to many in my 100 but they all get along. 

True!!! 

As to what fish....... You don’t wanna know. If I gave you 10 guesses in trying to figure out, you would still fail. 😏

It’s a temporary solution. After the problem is resolved fish will need a new home. 

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RODI unit came in with additional pre-pre-filter/sediment stage. This thing is really small😯 Kinda of a good thing. I just might rethink the whole install and try to fit it in the same cabinet as salt water storage unit. I’m pretty sure it will fit. Getting closer to 1 year birthday of this tank and I do plan to shift direction a bit. Focus on small, daily auto water changes, rearrange rear chamber functions and finally utilize external macro-algae reactor that I got last year to help out with more aggressive nutrients input. There will be few more additions/changes in regard to lighting, heater and return pump replacement but more on that in the future. 

Cocoworm did survive CoralRx bath but she was pissed for few days and wouldn’t come out from her tube. 

So the only casualty was, one poor snail. 

It sure feels as if I dodged the bullet. 

A bit of a freak out but not enough to force my hand to do an emergency water change. 😇 

What else................. I don’t know what else🙄 Frag/dump tank is doing perfectly fine. I’m ashamed to say that but I did like one water change in that tank since it’s inception last year (maybe 2-3gallons). I don’t trim the macro-algae in the back compartment or even look back there. 🤫 

As you know I had some flatworms in that tank, some algae which I never really addressed. It just went away on its own. Flatworms problem and the way it went away is still a mystery to me. Flatworm exit kinda worked but flatworms would come back every time (probably due to my modified dosage/procedure). So I let it be and decided to deal with that after vacation. Came back and flatworms were gone.😃

I do dose amino acids and live phytoplankton just like the other tank. Other then that and dosing TropicMarin one step dosing solution, I really don’t touch that tank. 

That was @&$€%# long rant. I guess RedBull kicked in. 

 

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3 hours ago, A Little Blue said:

True!!! 

As to what fish....... You don’t wanna know. If I gave you 10 guesses in trying to figure out, you would still fail. 😏

It’s a temporary solution. After the problem is resolved fish will need a new home. 

So what is this fish supposed to do ? 

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7 hours ago, spectra said:

So what is this fish supposed to do ? 

Eat lobophora algae. There are several different types of this nuisance algae. Some less aggressive then others but it’s a problem. Especially in SPS dominated tanks.  Not only it could compete with SPS corals over space but engage in chemical warfare (causing bleaching). 

Fish should arrive in a day or two. 

Not sure how long she will stay with me but once the problem is gone, so is the fish. At the moment, crabs and Urchin is helping with this issue (Urchin is doing a fabulous job) but there are spots that are difficult for Urchin to get to. 

 

Anyone interested in reading paper regarding those relations can find it here: 

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep18637

And here:

https://aem.asm.org/content/aem/83/1/e02391-16.full.pdf

 

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Removed %90 of ChemiPure Nano and Poly-Bio-Marine pad I’ve used to neutralize CoralRx spillage. Red Dragon stopped STN and tissue loss seemed to stop for now. New fish will be here on Tuesday. 

Thats about it as far as good news. 

 

Bad news...... before placing an order on Hanna regents and other crap, I decided to check Alk in both tanks. 30l is fine but “dump” tank is at 5.5 DKH!!! After few seconds of holly &@$# moment, I start trying to figure out what happened. 

It didn't take long. Dosing tube is close to first chamber where UV and filter floss is located. While replacing a filter floss, I must have knocked the tube over and behind the chamber wall. Not sure how long did this go on for..... Probably days. Fish is fine but my chalice is pissed. 

This chalice went through a LOT so I have fate in it to recover, again. 

Not going to @&$# around with water change or go into some crazy panic mode. Sh!t happens!!! Easy does it. Slow, incremental dosing for few weeks should bring it up to mid-hi-6ish. 

 

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Hey that's good news about the coral rx and not loosing anything, glad to hear man 😀. Does suck about the alk drop though, hope that all goes well for you. I guess the low alk is better than high. It seems after reading peoples issues and the issues that I've had seem to be ok as long it's on the low end and not high end. 

 

I just got my tank back to normal with the temps and things. The ink bird came in yesturday so I installed at after I got home from work. For now I'm gonna run this new ink bird and I'll probably grab something different later on. The tank was bouncing around from 68 to 76 for the past few days and everything is fine. I don't even thing the animals noticed to be honest. I grabbed a brand new heater tonight also just in case.

 

Hope your "dump" tank pulls through ok. Sorry for the long post lol.

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10 hours ago, DSFIRSTSLTWATER said:

Hey that's good news about the coral rx and not loosing anything, glad to hear man 😀. Does suck about the alk drop though, hope that all goes well for you. I guess the low alk is better than high. It seems after reading peoples issues and the issues that I've had seem to be ok as long it's on the low end and not high end. 

 

I just got my tank back to normal with the temps and things. The ink bird came in yesturday so I installed at after I got home from work. For now I'm gonna run this new ink bird and I'll probably grab something different later on. The tank was bouncing around from 68 to 76 for the past few days and everything is fine. I don't even thing the animals noticed to be honest. I grabbed a brand new heater tonight also just in case.

 

Hope your "dump" tank pulls through ok. Sorry for the long post lol.

All my posts are long enough to explain the situation. So no worries, I like to hear what fellow reefers have to say. 

As to using inkbird well, don’t stress yourself about it. It’s a decent controller. I’ve been using it for a while now and I would still recommended over running heater without any safeguard at all. 

 

We all went through some issues with alkalinity fluctuations. For some reefers it didn’t go so well, for others, recovery went a whole lot smoother. I’m not going  to speculate what can be attributed to catastrophical failures but I would advice against any aggressive corrections to address those issues. Easy and slow is the way to approach most of those holly @&$# moments. 

And yes, it’s always easier to “add” than “extract” as far as water chemistry/parameters are concerned. 

Dump tank is going to survive just fine. 

It just had a bad week that’s all. 👍

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Epoxy between RFA and this acro (forgot what it’s called). It did not appreciate stingy foreplay from its neighbor. Needed some intervention. 

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4 new babies. 

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Found this guy getting tumbled around the bottom. Lost this guy some months ago (Urchin the decorator). Though I lost it but it seems to start recovering. JF hairy something. 

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New. Woodoo Magic

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Cadillac 

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Don’t know. Below it Walt Disney 

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Red Dragon at its new location. A story of 2 tanks & tricks it took to safe this guy (at least for time being). 

 

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This nice frag started bleaching (STN) almost on day 1 after arrival. Trying to figure out what happened & what might be the cause, lead to this findings :

1. Stress from transport, temp shock, dipping procedure, cuting and replanting to new frag plug. Did all this attribute to added stress? Absolutely, but was it enough to caused immediate STN? Maybe, but I thing there is more to this story. 

2. Tell of two tanks.

My buddy's tank is about 250gal SPS dominated beauty, lit by “old fashion” T5s and nothing else. He runs his Alk between 8-8.5DKH, so we are not too far apart. Due to some previously  mentioned Alk drop in my tank caused by calibrating/fine tuning new dosing pumps, my Alk at the moment is between 7.5-8.0. So Alk is not a suspect   IMO. So what happened? 

Here is my break down (it’s a complete BS analogy but stay with me, it makes a little sense) :

Stress is the main cause IMO and lighting difference adds to the problem. 

Here is my anecdotal breakdown in % numbers: 

*Transport (in the cold temp) stress=   5% chance of mortality and %10 on stress level. 

* dipping, handling  (it’s species dependent) and re-planting (cutting off old plug and gluing to fresh plug). 10% chance of mortality after already stressed coral and  %20 on stress scale. 

* Alk (only 1dkh between tanks so not a big deal), nutrients content, flow and other chemistry differences? Hard to say for sure but I do give it another %5 on stress level. 

* And finally lighting. I do give it a 30% in mortality chance (on sensitive species) and %50 on stress scale. Difference between T5s and LED is dramatic. Intensity and narrow focus of LEDs matters and can be a huge factor in comparison to T5s. And if you add all those stress factors together and then blast new frag with abnormal/different/more intense light source well, it might be lethal. We are in deep trouble. 

So, total of %85 on my stress level (all those stress factors that coral had to go through in a matter of hrs). 

And %45 on mortality chance scale. 

This isn't a common situation but my personal breakdown based on two tanks, transport/weather factor, light differences, personal handling/fragging  stressful process, and specific species. 

So at the end, Red Dragon might have a 50/50 chance of survival at the very best. I don’t like those odds. 

I honestly don’t know if Red Dragon is going to survive this or not but here are few things that I have tried in desperation to save it. 

* placed on the bottom of the tank (lower light/ mid flow) - didn’t help much. STN continued marching on. 

* same location, cut off infected branches. No change. 

* move of desperation (%25 of large frag is already consumed by STN): 

cut it off frag plug/rock, cut way above infected area, apply glue to areas closest to affected part of the main stem, glued frag directly to live rock up high, high flow. Placed multiple of round camera color filters to reduce light exposure but not affect other corals in the tank. They are simply placed on top of net tank cover and provide shade for this particular coral. 

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Increased amino-acid input. It’s a good way to provide a building block for recovering tissue/ tissue growth. 

Results so far: STN stopped at the moment. Whitish tips at certain areas getting more color back. Success? Far from it but we will see how it goes over the next few weeks. My guess, if it show signs of recovery, polyp extension and some growth over the next 3-4 weeks, we might be in the clear. 

 

 

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This has become a race for the light. 

3 montis, all light hungry, all desperate to survive the shading game. 

Am I placing my frags way too close to each other and increasing the chance of warfare? Absolutely. 

Not my intensions but it is what it is. 



 

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Not attractive but not forgotten. These zoas are nicknamed “Grow Zero”. Same 3 polyps for the past 8 months. Moved to dump tank to let it taste some dirty water in hopes that it might promote more growth......., but it didn’t happened. So moved it back to the main tank for now. 



 

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There is like 5 tinny frags of Setosa scattered around this and dump tank below. It’s glued and encrusted to small rubble rock, however. Rubble rock that it is growing on is not permanently glued to the main structure. Therefore, it gets knocked off, or pushed aside by accident or grazing Urchin. 

 

 

 

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Dry fit of 35 gallon salt water storage. Upper shelf will be moved below. Tank will seat on top of it. 

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Small 4 stage RODI with sediment prefilter. 

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Thought about permanent install but I’ll probably use it as a portable unit feeding of the shower head adapter or something of that nature. We will see. 

 

2/21

Red Dragon started STN again (after several days of optimistic prognosis no signs of STN). Fragged it again to two smaller pieces this time but I don’t think that it is going to make it. My “frags go to guy” will replace it with new frag soon so I will give RD another chance. If that fails, it will become crystal clear that RD doesn’t like this tank.  

Another sad news, 2nd Pipefish died. Don’t know why? Perhaps pods poplation wasn’t large enough to support its needs. It didn’t show any signs of stress or disease so lock of nutrition seems like a valid cause. 

(Front tank shots taken at the most “natural” light settings of the day light schedule on Kessil lights)

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Lots of pics added in the post above along with few updates. New fish purchase didn’t go thru. I was offered a school bus instead of a Mini Cooper that I requested + extra $$$. Disappointing since I have been in contact with them and made sure that they got what I was looking for in stock and ready to ship.

I’ll stop by LFS on the way home and see what they have in stock. 

Probably going to walk out with crap I don’t need or corals I wasn’t looking to purchase. Typical day of an addict I guess? 

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On ‎2‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 6:58 PM, A Little Blue said:

 

 

Dry fit of 35 gallon salt water storage. Upper shelf will be moved below. Tank will seat on top of it. 

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Small 4 stage RODI with sediment prefilter. 

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Thought about permanent install but I’ll probably use it as a portable unit feeding of the shower head adapter or something of that nature. We will see. 

 

2/21

Red Dragon started STN again (after several days of optimistic prognosis no signs of STN). Fragged it again to two smaller pieces this time but I don’t think that it is going to make it. My “frags go to guy” will replace it with new frag soon so I will give RD another chance. If that fails, it will become crystal clear that RD doesn’t like this tank.  

Another sad news, 2nd Pipefish died. Don’t know why? Perhaps pods poplation wasn’t large enough to support its needs. It didn’t show any signs of stress or disease so lock of nutrition seems like a valid cause. 

(Front tank shots taken at the most “natural” light settings of the day light schedule on Kessil lights)

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Damn those are some great looking shots :smilie:. One week till the frag farmers market, i'll hopefully be getting something. Haven't gotten a coral since oct :whoa:.

 

I think the reef rx is actually working in my tank. I'm on day 7 of the medicine and everything is living so that's a plus. The gha seems to have stopped growing, usually a week later and all the algae I sucked out has grown back. It's actually starting to look good again. Who knows though, could just be that I've been paying close attention to the tank all week.

 

Good luck at the fish store, maybe they'll have something good :wink:

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On ‎2‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 6:58 PM, A Little Blue said:

Another sad news, 2nd Pipefish died.

And bummer about the pipefish :sad:, those are really awesome fish.

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