jorahx Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Hey guys, so i have a innovative marine 20g with a nanobox duo plus light. but i am having issues with growing any sps. some friends gave me two frags and i placed them near the top of my rock work so they can soak up the most light possible, plus they have the return pumps going right by them for excellent flow. but i still havnt gotten any sign of life from the two sps. it has been about 2 weeks for the first frag, and 1 week for the second. any tips or thoughts would be much appreciated. thanks you. Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Don’t you think giving water parameters would help? Quote Link to comment
Cannedfish Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 What kind of SPS are they? How old is your tank? Also, two weeks is not a lot of time to expect growth from new frags. 1 Quote Link to comment
John L Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Yr tank may not be mature enough. I had trouble for first 8 months, I believe my tanks water was too unstable for sps as everything was maturing. many factors like v stable water/ nitrates, phosphates levels , correct calcium, alk, mag levels, flow, light ( too strong can b as bad as not enough). More info would be handy. Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 i dont really expect growth. mostly just them to open up i guess. all the rest of mine in the tank seem to be having no problem 29 minutes ago, HarryPotter said: Don’t you think giving water parameters would help? water par's are all good, except phos i dont know since i dont have a test for it yet. Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, jorahx said: i dont really expect growth. mostly just them to open up i guess. all the rest of mine in the tank seem to be having no problem water par's are all good, except phos i dont know since i dont have a test for it yet. What is "good"? Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 yesterday when i took the latest tests they were. Salt Tempature Amonia Nitrite Nirate PH Alkalinity Mag Cal 1.026 77.6 0 0 5 8.2 7.5 1380 410 Quote Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Duo settings and how old is the tank? Quote Link to comment
Andreww Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Maybe they’re in too much light. Did you acclimate them lower or just blasted them with light from the beginning? What kind of SPS? some will not open up in direct high flow. Parameters seem ok, while the ALK seems ok I’d get it up to 8.5-9dkh Edit: tank looks very new. Everything is a small frag.... let us know ... Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 Just now, xiaoxiy said: Duo settings and how old is the tank? tanks little over a month old. i had them origonally on the bottom with the rest of the frags for a few days before moving stuff up. ill get a picture of the nanobox light settings. i have no idea what kind of SPS. i dont know much about the names of them, ill try to get a closer photo of them. Quote Link to comment
Andreww Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Not seeing how a tank so new can support SPS even with stable parameters. But that’s just my opinion. Do post pics though... Quote Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Just now, jorahx said: tanks little over a month old. i had them origonally on the bottom with the rest of the frags for a few days before moving stuff up. ill get a picture of the nanobox light settings. i have no idea what kind of SPS. i dont know much about the names of them, ill try to get a closer photo of them. I've always had trouble with new tanks and SPS, however that may just be me. Are you having trouble with polyp extension, browning, bleaching, tissue recession or a mix of the above? Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Andreww said: Not seeing how a tank so new can support SPS even with stable parameters. But that’s just my opinion. Do post pics though... How does a new tank have a harder time with coral growing? Every time I check my water params none have seem out of wack. But I am new so I don't know how to grow them. And thank you guys for the interest in helping me. The lights setting are the same as when I first got the light. Didn't know what strengths I should use so didn't want to mess with what they were. Quote Link to comment
Andreww Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The majority of people keeping successful SPS tanks report a greater success rate as the tank matures and goes through all the nasty stages first. Thats not to say SPS don’t grow in a new tank, they just grow and color better in established tanks. Heres the thing, your tank is still barely out of the nitrogen cycle, and the SPS pieces you put up top are still adjusting . I’m not familiar with Nanobox but I know they are strong lights. A quick glance at your program makes me think the light is too much for your tank at this stage. I’d dial back everything around 35-40% and go from there but I’ll leave a nanobox owner to suggest something probably better than I can... Heres a good , simple to understand SPS article. https://reefs.com/magazine/an-sps-recipe-for-success/ Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 thank you for the response. and yeah my tank just doesnt like SPS right now. everything else is growing wonderfully. even the birdsnest are happy. (but i hear those are hardy and always happy) Quote Link to comment
Andreww Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Good to hear. Yeah I’ve had mixed results with birdsnests. Some are good for a while then RTN for no reason. Some grow and grow for what seems like forever. And they’re prone to collecting debris in between the branches more than other SPS so definitely keep an eye on that. Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just now, Andreww said: Good to hear. Yeah I’ve had mixed results with birdsnests. Some are good for a while then RTN for no reason. Some grow and grow for what seems like forever. And they’re prone to collecting debris in between the branches more than other SPS so definitely keep an eye on that. good tip! ill make sure to keep them clean. Quote Link to comment
xiaoxiy Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Nothing looks blatantly wacked to me. For the nanobox, dave has put out a great guide for mounting height/settings. 1 Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 thank you for the link. very helpful Quote Link to comment
ninjamyst Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 FYI, birdsnest are also SPS. The two new ones you got are acros, also SPS but much harder than birdsnest. Your light is way too strong given how close to the water line it already is. Montipora, birdsnest, and stylophora are good SPS to start out. Acros will thrive in a more mature and stable tank. Quote Link to comment
Christmas Corals Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 looks like you're doing everything right. keep up on the water changes and you should be set! stable water parameters are also appreciated by sps. have fun. tank looks beautiful! ?? Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 4 hours ago, ninjamyst said: FYI, birdsnest are also SPS. The two new ones you got are acros, also SPS but much harder than birdsnest. Your light is way too strong given how close to the water line it already is. Montipora, birdsnest, and stylophora are good SPS to start out. Acros will thrive in a more mature and stable tank. yeah i have a few birds nest which seem to be doing great. maybe ill try raising the light up another couple inch's. wish i had a PAR meter haha. Quote Link to comment
jorahx Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 everything else seems to be thriving, should i raise the light or lower the settings? Quote Link to comment
Andreww Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I think you should do both...raise it to get better spread and lower intensity to give the corals time to adjust... Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Andreww said: Not seeing how a tank so new can support SPS even with stable parameters. But that’s just my opinion. Do post pics though... Why not? What’s different? Quote Link to comment
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