duderubble Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Hmmm. I don't think magfloats will be very effective cleaning that tank. 1 Quote Link to comment
dmw913 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Ok, time for some feedback: 1. What are the real/perceived differences in the Coral Compulsion/RapidLED $90 bulbs and the Amazon Kingbo-type bulbs? I'm looking for a more blue tank. Additionally, while I would prefer to go with the cheaper bulb based on cost, I have been bitten too many times by trying to low ball it and ending up spending even more in the end so if there's a material difference in the bulbs, I'd rather get the better one up front as it will be cheaper in the long run. 2. To ATO or not to ATO, that is the question. I envision a zoa, 'shroom, possibly rock anemone tank for this build with 1 shrimp for a little movement. Again, I would prefer to just do my own top offs for economy but in a 2 gallon build, this seems potentially risky. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! Denise 1 Quote Link to comment
duderubble Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I'd love to know about the Kingbo lights too. As for ATO i think a key factor will be open top or not. With soft corals I don't think moderate swings in alkalinity will be a big deal and with no sump the pump isn't going to get dry. 1 Quote Link to comment
seabass Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 @dmw913, for a 2 gallon tank, for a blue Coral Compulsion bulb, I'd probably get this 14W PAR30 bulb: https://coralcompulsion.myshopify.com/collections/14w-par30/products/14w-par30-led-22k-superblu-reef-light Their 24W PAR38 bulb is probably overkill. The 18W PAR38 Kingbo bulb might even be on the strong side. A much cheaper (but acceptable) option is the 12W PAR38 ABI Tuna Blue: https://www.amazon.com/ABI-Coral-Optimized-Spectrum-PAR38/dp/B01LWP37SD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1508045170&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=Abi+12w+tuna&psc=1 You really aren't out anything if you don't like it. @duderubble is right, I wouldn't bother with an ATO if you plan on having a lid. Otherwise, with an open top, I feel that it would be worth looking into. 3 Quote Link to comment
dmw913 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, seabass said: @dmw913, for a 2 gallon tank, for a blue Coral Compulsion bulb, I'd probably get this 14W PAR30 bulb: https://coralcompulsion.myshopify.com/collections/14w-par30/products/14w-par30-led-22k-superblu-reef-light Their 24W PAR38 bulb is probably overkill. The Kingbo bulb might even be on the strong side. A much cheaper (but acceptable) option is the 12W PAR38 ABI Tuna Blue: https://www.amazon.com/ABI-Coral-Optimized-Spectrum-PAR38/dp/B01LWP37SD/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1508045170&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=Abi+12w+tuna&psc=1 You really aren't out anything if you don't like it. @duderubble is right, I wouldn't bother with an ATO if you plan on having a lid. Otherwise, with an open top, I feel that it would be worth looking into. Thanks so much! I'll review! Quote Link to comment
schgr.cube Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I just pulled the trigger on the ABI Tuna Blue myself, will be here Tuesday if anyone wants more opinions on it. 5 Quote Link to comment
cnseekatz Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 8 hours ago, dmw913 said: Ok, time for some feedback: 1. What are the real/perceived differences in the Coral Compulsion/RapidLED $90 bulbs and the Amazon Kingbo-type bulbs? I'm looking for a more blue tank. Additionally, while I would prefer to go with the cheaper bulb based on cost, I have been bitten too many times by trying to low ball it and ending up spending even more in the end so if there's a material difference in the bulbs, I'd rather get the better one up front as it will be cheaper in the long run. 2. To ATO or not to ATO, that is the question. I envision a zoa, 'shroom, possibly rock anemone tank for this build with 1 shrimp for a little movement. Again, I would prefer to just do my own top offs for economy but in a 2 gallon build, this seems potentially risky. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! Denise I ordered the Kingbo bulb and it should be arriving today. I'll post my initial thoughts later. I had a Coral Compulsion bulb a while back because there just weren't a whole lot of options, and I got it on closeout for like $50. That's a lot, especially for a pico tank. 2 Quote Link to comment
Lula_Mae Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 The Tuna Blue 12w bulb is pretty blue, and it's what Natalia uses on her reef bowl. More than 12w will be overkill on <3 gallon picos lol. 4 Quote Link to comment
schgr.cube Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, Lula_Mae said: The Tuna Blue 12w bulb is pretty blue, and it's what Natalia uses on her reef bowl. More than 12w will be overkill on <3 gallon picos lol. I <3 <3 gallon picos. 2 3 Quote Link to comment
Pjanssen Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Really loving everybody's builds. Wish I could join in, but it's a lot of fun just watching all of the creativeness of this contest. Also a great learning/teaching tool for builds of all kinds. 5 Quote Link to comment
dmw913 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Container acquired. Build thread begun. Contest entry official! 6 Quote Link to comment
JoeR Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 So I was thinking today. I want a power head so the cord doesn’t run over the side, but they provide too much flow- could I just trim the propeller? Quote Link to comment
flatlandreefer Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, JoeR said: So I was thinking today. I want a power head so the cord doesn’t run over the side, but they provide too much flow- could I just trim the propeller? I wouldn't think this would be very ideal. You might get some weird vibrations and noise if you mess with the shape of the propeller. 2 Quote Link to comment
Felicia Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 7:08 PM, Felicia said: Attention Contestants! Brightwell has generously offered to send a free sample of their coral dip, KoralMD, to all of the Creative Container contestants. All you have to do to get your sample is send an email to socialmedia@brightwellaquatics.com! The free samples will ship out in November. Due to liquid restrictions, Brightwell may not be able to ship the sample internationally. Thank you to @metrokat for coordinating this wonderful freebie for our contestants! Please note that due to liquid restrictions, Brightwell may not be able to ship the sample internationally. Quote Link to comment
kimberbee Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I wanted to chime in regarding those using a container with a SPIGOT... For about a year I used a drink dispenser as an ATO container for one of my tanks. It was probably about a gallon in size and was made of plastic - I definitely didn't spend more than $10 on it, and it likely came from Wal-Mart, Walgreens, or somewhere else that it would have been that cheap. I do not know what the spigot inner workings were made of. I never used the spigot, but kept the container on a deep platter in case it did leak. It never leaked. Again, I never used the spigot so I don't know if over time the seal would loose it's leak protection. 3 Quote Link to comment
JoeR Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 33 minutes ago, flatlandreefer said: I wouldn't think this would be very ideal. You might get some weird vibrations and noise if you mess with the shape of the propeller. Definitely didn’t think about that... looks like I am going to end up with a cord at this point. Unless I can figure out how to make some sort of DIY setup. Quote Link to comment
duderubble Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 55 minutes ago, JoeR said: So I was thinking today. I want a power head so the cord doesn’t run over the side, but they provide too much flow- could I just trim the propeller? I'm looking at the smallest Rio pumps. They are pretty small and go down to around 60 GPH. Quote Link to comment
duderubble Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, kimberbee said: I wanted to chime in regarding those using a container with a SPIGOT... For about a year I used a drink dispenser as an ATO container for one of my tanks. It was probably about a gallon in size and was made of plastic - I definitely didn't spend more than $10 on it, and it likely came from Wal-Mart, Walgreens, or somewhere else that it would have been that cheap. I do not know what the spigot inner workings were made of. I never used the spigot, but kept the container on a deep platter in case it did leak. It never leaked. Again, I never used the spigot so I don't know if over time the seal would loose it's leak protection. I'd guess it would depend on what type it is. Some are ball valves (the twisty ones) The ones that go up and down I don't know how they work. Quote Link to comment
Coral_chef Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, duderubble said: I'm looking at the smallest Rio pumps. They are pretty small and go down to around 60 GPH. I'm using a 40gph small decrative fountain pump. Quote Link to comment
duderubble Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Coral_chef said: I'm using a 40gph small decrative fountain pump. They have some at a store here for $8. My concern is reliability. The way im doing mine if the pump goes out it will be a major crisis. Quote Link to comment
Mariaface Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 @metrokat and I have joined the contest!! Wish us luck! 9 Quote Link to comment
duderubble Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 On 10/10/2017 at 3:08 PM, Lula_Mae said: So the Archea heater from Aqua Forest Aquariums that I ordered for my jar came in today. I have been grossly overestimating the size. I took a few pics so everyone who's been curious can see the size. As you can see, it's a good bit shorter than I was estimating: The diameter is very slender; this is a U.S. nickel: Hope that helps some of you! Ok found it. Now about those suction cup extensions, does it seem like they are just plastic? I mean could they be cut off to leave just a cylinder? Quote Link to comment
Coral_chef Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 hours ago, duderubble said: They have some at a store here for $8. My concern is reliability. The way im doing mine if the pump goes out it will be a major crisis. They are $8, buy two? For a backup. Quote Link to comment
duderubble Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I mean I would have to do a complete tank disassembly to change it. I think I'll go with something known for reliability. Quote Link to comment
metrokat Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Mariaface said: @metrokat and I have joined the contest!! Wish us luck! Yasss. 4 Quote Link to comment
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