Horsey_Cat Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I have a 3 gallon pico, right now I have - 3 species of xenia - Torch coral - Long tentacle plate coral - GSP I am completely entranced by the xenia, and really wouldn't mind if it just took over. If need be if wouldn't be hard for me to cut some back. Since Ive got my xenia is has grown substantially, but in the past few weeks Im not sure I notice any more growth. When reading about xenia you always hear they like "dirty" high nutrient water. So what exactly are these so called "nutrients"? I understand if I do an 80% water change weekly Im removing a lot of nutrients by doing so. But what are they, its not referring to nitrates is it? Anyways, I was just hoping anyone who might have a tank dedicated to xenia if you can tell me if you do anything special to make it grow, and if you dose anything. I heard xenia reacts positively to dosing iodine Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment
vlangel Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Horsey_Cat said: I have a 3 gallon pico, right now I have - 3 species of xenia - Torch coral - Long tentacle plate coral - GSP I am completely entranced by the xenia, and really wouldn't mind if it just took over. If need be if wouldn't be hard for me to cut some back. Since Ive got my xenia is has grown substantially, but in the past few weeks Im not sure I notice any more growth. When reading about xenia you always hear they like "dirty" high nutrient water. So what exactly are these so called "nutrients"? I understand if I do an 80% water change weekly Im removing a lot of nutrients by doing so. But what are they, its not referring to nitrates is it? Anyways, I was just hoping anyone who might have a tank dedicated to xenia if you can tell me if you do anything special to make it grow, and if you dose anything. I heard xenia reacts positively to dosing iodine Thanks Hi horsey_cat! I do not have a xenia garden but I also like them a lot. Unfortunately I never had very much luck with them in the past. I decided that perhaps my tanks were too low nutrient for their liking. Then about a year ago RIP sebastion gave me some of his. I had my doubts about how they would do since I always killed them before but to my amazement they still look good. They have not spread like crazy but they definitely have not melted away like previous xenias. What I have decided is that they like the oil residue that comes off the mysis when I feed my seahorses. My gorgs and sponges are also doing well. My nitrates are 0 because I do 21 - 25 gallon a week WC on my 56 gallon seahorse tank. Seahorses need very high water quality to thrive. I suspect even with the oversized skimmer and macro algaes that my coral get a good feeding while the ponies are eating. I may even try some more zoas which was another coral that I had trouble with in the past but now the few I have are doing well. All that to say maybe feed them more. Your water changes may be starving them a bit. Quote Link to comment
Horsey_Cat Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, vlangel said: Hi horsey_cat! I do not have a xenia garden but I also like them a lot. Unfortunately I never had very much luck with them in the past. I decided that perhaps my tanks were too low nutrient for their liking. Then about a year ago RIP sebastion gave me some of his. I had my doubts about how they would do since I always killed them before but to my amazement they still look good. They have not spread like crazy but they definitely have not melted away like previous xenias. What I have decided is that they like the oil residue that comes off the mysis when I feed my seahorses. My gorgs and sponges are also doing well. My nitrates are 0 because I do 21 - 25 gallon a week WC on my 56 gallon seahorse tank. Seahorses need very high water quality to thrive. I suspect even with the oversized skimmer and macro algaes that my coral get a good feeding while the ponies are eating. I may even try some more zoas which was another coral that I had trouble with in the past but now the few I have are doing well. All that to say maybe feed them more. Your water changes may be starving them a bit. Thanks for the advice. Before doing those big water changes I feed mysis shrimp along with coral frenzy and reef roids. I will say yesterday I did a big feeding ( a bit more coral frenzy and a bit more reef roids than usual) and I let it sit in the tank for about an hour with my filter turned off. Today my xenia is looking very nice. 1 Quote Link to comment
vlangel Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Horsey_Cat said: Thanks for the advice. Before doing those big water changes I feed mysis shrimp along with coral frenzy and reef roids. I will say yesterday I did a big feeding ( a bit more coral frenzy and a bit more reef roids than usual) and I let it sit in the tank for about an hour with my filter turned off. Today my xenia is looking very nice. Well, if that seemed to have a positive effect, maybe do that a couple Xs a week and see if they don't start growing again. Quote Link to comment
Subsea Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 At some point, I would consider a display refugium with xenia and gsp. Happy reefing. Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I have xenia. In my 10g I prune them every few weeks. They grow very fast. In my 15g they have grown at a slower pace. I have noticed that they grow and then slow down, then spread again. They don't like dirty water. Some nutrients in the tank is beneficial but you don't need high nitrates for xenia. They like flow and light. If the torch is close to them, it make be stinging them. Quote Link to comment
Lugmos12 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I have two batches of xenia. The one in the picture below has really grown over the past 1.5 months. I don’t diss anything; just do weekly 3 gallon water changes. 1 Quote Link to comment
Thrassian Atoll Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 So does pruning it keep it at bay? Quote Link to comment
Lugmos12 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just now, TILTON said: So does pruning it keep it at bay? I don’t prune it because it want it to take cover the entire rock. Quote Link to comment
Thrassian Atoll Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Lugmos12 said: I don’t prune it because it want it to take cover the entire rock. I set up a 5 gallon softy tank. I want some Xenia but not like this. ? 1 Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, TILTON said: I set up a 5 gallon softy tank. I want some Xenia but not like this. ? Ya it's easy. You can use a straight razor or scissors to remove it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Horsey_Cat Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, TILTON said: I set up a 5 gallon softy tank. I want some Xenia but not like this. ? Wow, that would be amazing 2 Quote Link to comment
Thrassian Atoll Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, Horsey_Cat said: Wow, that would be amazing It's pretty cool, but if you don't want anything else...I actually think there are other photos out there where it's filled the entire tank completely. 24 minutes ago, Clown79 said: Ya it's easy. You can use a straight razor or scissors to remove it. Thanks! Do you just cut the stalks or pick it off of the rocks? Quote Link to comment
Subsea Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Lugmos12 said: I have two batches of xenia. The one in the picture below has really grown over the past 1.5 months. I don’t diss anything; just do weekly 3 gallon water changes. What a gorgeous picture! In my early days, I had a 5' wide tank with the back wall completely covered with Red Sea Silver Xenia. I have not found any since the mid 80''s. Looks like you have that same Xenia. Very nice. 1 Quote Link to comment
Lugmos12 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 5 hours ago, TILTON said: I set up a 5 gallon softy tank. I want some Xenia but not like this. ? that is beautiful! wow Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 7 hours ago, TILTON said: It's pretty cool, but if you don't want anything else...I actually think there are other photos out there where it's filled the entire tank completely. Thanks! Do you just cut the stalks or pick it off of the rocks? I've done both. I've pulled pieces right off with my tweezers or I trim back the ones I want to keep but are spreading too far. I like xenia on the back glass. It look pretty and it's really easy to remove from glass. 1 Quote Link to comment
Thrassian Atoll Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Clown79 said: I've done both. I've pulled pieces right off with my tweezers or I trim back the ones I want to keep but are spreading too far. I like xenia on the back glass. It look pretty and it's really easy to remove from glass. Might do gsp on the back wall. I like the way that looks too. Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, TILTON said: Might do gsp on the back wall. I like the way that looks too. I have that on my 10g back wall. It's pretty. 2 Quote Link to comment
Thrassian Atoll Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Clown79 said: I have that on my 10g back wall. It's pretty. Nice! Quote Link to comment
Lugmos12 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Clown79 said: I have that on my 10g back wall. It's pretty. the asterina!!! i almost added a red star to my tank today Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 57 minutes ago, Lugmos12 said: the asterina!!! i almost added a red star to my tank today I have a ton of asterisk. I have to get rid of them or they will take over.lol Quote Link to comment
Lula_Mae Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 There is a tank on here that is predominantly xenia but I can't remember who it belongs to lol. Quote Link to comment
Lugmos12 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 18 hours ago, Clown79 said: I have a ton of asterisk. I have to get rid of them or they will take over.lol do you ship them? I love them. I saw one in my tank like 2 months ago and haven’t seen it since Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I'm in cda so shipping to US would require special licenses. Once you have a few, they multiply - a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment
ChristiansNano Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Mine is growing good.. I dont do anything but clean the glass and the skimmer.. My last water change was a year ago. Did weekly when the tank was young, but after å year i started just testing monthly... and as long ås it's all good i dont do anything. I feed two times å day with artemia and mysis. Quote Link to comment
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