Friendly Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 for a baseline, let's consider livestock for tanks 30 gallons and below. I will update this list as realistic pairing examples are posted: - clownfish & anemone (or frogsspawn) - goby & pistol shrimp - pom pom crab - anemone shrimp (names elude me) - three dot damsel & carpet anemone - acropora crab and acropora/pocillopora coral - porcelain anemone crab & anemone Quote Link to comment
BustytheSnowMaam Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I had a domino damsel paired with a RBTA once. Variation on the clown/nem relationship that was neat. Oh, and don't forget shark/remora 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Friendly Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 oooh, cool! I've never read about that one. alas, they're an aggressive fish, not it would not do well with a lot of other tank mates in a nano. 1 Quote Link to comment
Rehype Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Emperor shrimp and Medusa worm 2 Quote Link to comment
Friendly Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, tashayar said: Oh, and don't forget shark/remora yeh, definitely won't work in a 30 gallon. Quote Link to comment
Friendly Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rehype said: Emperor shrimp and sea cucumber crike, those emporer shrimp are TINY!!! due to that, probably only conducive to pico tanks, if they can be found. Quote Link to comment
Rehype Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Friendly said: crike, those emporer shrimp are TINY!!! due to that, probably only conducive to pico tanks, if they can be found. They are tiny but very cool Ive seen them for sale twice this year Quote Link to comment
Rehype Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Acropora crab and acropora/pocillopora 1 Quote Link to comment
BustytheSnowMaam Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I googled this and found glass shrimp/ chocolate chip star. The shrimp uses the choc chip star for its coloration to camouflage itself, not sure how the star benefits. Not reef safe, obv, but could have nano potential. 1 Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Porcelain anemone crab with nem Sexy shrimp, or Peterson shrimp, okay many types of shrimp... with nem 1 Quote Link to comment
MainelyReefer Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Radial filefish and Xenia decorator crab is kind of symbiotic Quote Link to comment
GregEmmitte Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 There's a Xenia crab on liveaquaria sometimes Quote Link to comment
jambon Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Some tiny goby's live in and around sea urchin spines. Pygmy sea horses and certain gorgonians as well. Not exactly symbiotic but... 1 Quote Link to comment
StinkyBunny Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 My favorite are pistol shrimp and their gobies. Hopefully we'll start seeing some new gobies and shrimps in the coming years. Irian Jaya has been bringing in more and more of them and selling them to transshippers as pairs of shrimp and pairs of gobies so we might be able to breed them here. As for the Domino damsels and anemones, they get a tad large for a small tank and as they age they get pretty mean. That was my first marine fish way back in 1977, damn, where did all that time go? Quote Link to comment
Christopher Marks Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I always liked this gallery photo of a hi-fin red-banded goby (Stonogobiops nematodes) and candy striped (Alpheus randalli) pistol shrimp that @PAK shared some time ago. It's hard to beat such a dynamic duo. 6 Quote Link to comment
Thrassian Atoll Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Just got a candy stripe pistol shrimp to hopefully pair with my yasha goby. The yasha loves staying at the back of the tank though. Wish there was a way to get them to make their home in the front. 1 Quote Link to comment
ReefWeeds Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 11:42 PM, Christopher Marks said: I always liked this gallery photo of a hi-fin red-banded goby (Stonogobiops nematodes) and candy striped (Alpheus randalli) pistol shrimp that @PAK shared some time ago. It's hard to beat such a dynamic duo. This is the photo that inspired me to get my pair of hi-fins and the candy cane!! 1 Quote Link to comment
Christopher Marks Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, stellablue said: This is the photo that inspired me to get my pair of hi-fins and the candy cane!! How cool! We should highlight some of the really great gallery photos over the years somehow. 1 Quote Link to comment
ReefWeeds Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Christopher Marks said: How cool! We should highlight some of the really great gallery photos over the years somehow. I have this photo actually saved on my computer! But I don't remember where I found it! But it is THIS EXACT photo! I think I just found it with a google search about a year or so ago. I don't think I saw it here because I can't find the original post Quote Link to comment
Christopher Marks Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yeah, Google is great at indexing our gallery photos for search results, but it's easy to miss the original page. It's been in our gallery for 9 years 1 Quote Link to comment
Friendly Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 so...think a 30L would be big enough to house? - clownfish & anemone (or frogsspawn) - goby & pistol shrimp - pom pom crab - acropora crab and acropora/pocillopora coral - anemone shrimp (names elude me) and anemone - porcelain anemone crab & anemone clowns are known to host frogspawn...but what about anemone shrimp and crabs? will they host frogspawn as well? Quote Link to comment
BustytheSnowMaam Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 19 minutes ago, Friendly said: so...think a 30L would be big enough to house? - clownfish & anemone (or frogsspawn) - goby & pistol shrimp - pom pom crab - acropora crab and acropora/pocillopora coral - anemone shrimp (names elude me) and anemone - porcelain anemone crab & anemone clowns are known to host frogspawn...but what about anemone shrimp and crabs? will they host frogspawn as well? A 30 should be plenty big enough- I wouldn't recommend a clown hosting in frogspawn- IME it irritates the frogspawn and causes it to withdraw. I'd stick to a nem. 1 Quote Link to comment
ReefWeeds Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, Friendly said: so...think a 30L would be big enough to house? - clownfish & anemone (or frogsspawn) - goby & pistol shrimp - pom pom crab - acropora crab and acropora/pocillopora coral - anemone shrimp (names elude me) and anemone - porcelain anemone crab & anemone clowns are known to host frogspawn...but what about anemone shrimp and crabs? will they host frogspawn as well? I think that would be fine. Keep in mind that while clowns can and will be hosted by frogspawn, a lot of times, frogspawn can be too delicate and the clowns can beat it to death. Another coral that they are hosted by regularly is sarcophyton (toadstool corals). Those tend to be tougher and can hold up to the abuse 1 Quote Link to comment
BustytheSnowMaam Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 This is my red saddleback clown that hosts in my condy in my 30. Being a Carib anemone, you'd think a clown couldn't host in a condy, but it works. The clown brings it food and hangs out, and the anemone doesn't seem to bother it. The condy gets big enough to look impressive, but doesn't seem to grow so big it takes over the tank. Both fish and condy are nearly 10 years old at my house and belonged to someone before me, so by pet fish standards, they're pretty old. Before the saddleback, the condy hosted an Allardi's Clown. Just a thought, if you're weighing anemone selection. 1 Quote Link to comment
hooligan_78 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 11:42 PM, Christopher Marks said: I always liked this gallery photo of a hi-fin red-banded goby (Stonogobiops nematodes) and candy striped (Alpheus randalli) pistol shrimp that @PAK shared some time ago. It's hard to beat such a dynamic duo. That's what I have, only I have 2 gobies. 1 Quote Link to comment
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