I'm Batman Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Alright so here goes the ultimate adventure! Transfering my 15g tall to the new 20g Long I put together. Shout out to Cromag who cut the acrylic I needed for this project. 3 Years ago... 11/22/20 - Orphek 15,000k filter 2/28/21 - Dino’s again 3 months strong (literally the next week after the photo above I had yet another annual outbreak. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 Part one - Ok so to start off... I had a 20g Long I wanted to put in the pre-built OceanBox designs version overflow... until I had a dream. I bought the Sicce and the Gyre first... Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 I bought that stuff in October of 2016 and as time went on I collected everything I needed. The toughest part being the return nozzle bulkhead. I ordered the return nozzle and 1/2" elbow fitting for the JBJ and they decided to send me something that doesn't fit together like the one on my existing (wrong parts). I was at my LFS and ran across a beautiful 20 Long with black silicon. I had already bought black silicon and was intending on stripping the one I had, but time is money and I couldnt resist buying a pre-made black seams tank. I decided to go with a 1/2" screw/slip bulkhead and my hole was too small. Bought a titanium step bit and went to town. Didn't end up working well after an hour of drilling but I finally got it so I could screw one end of the nozzle fitting, through the acrylic to the bulkhead on the inside of the main sump baffle. Not the greatest set up. In April I used WeldOn acrylic bond to attach the overflow wall to the sump baffle and finally in May I decided to use black silicon and on the acrylic sump baffle and set it into place, I then added the overflow baffle and siliconed in place. They're not kidding when they say use in a ventilated area, that stuff had me choking it was pretty bad. I let this cure for about 8 days. Pics below... Time for a water test!! 5 Quote Link to comment
gogeta Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Looking good so far!! 1 Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Interesting. So you have an InTank basket, or parts from an InTank basket in the DIY sump? You should have enough room in the overflow/sump portion to fit that heater in there, shouldn't you? I've always liked 20 long tank and am curious to see how this comes together. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 11 hours ago, Weetabix7 said: Interesting. So you have an InTank basket, or parts from an InTank basket in the DIY sump? You should have enough room in the overflow/sump portion to fit that heater in there, shouldn't you? I've always liked 20 long tank and am curious to see how this comes together. I've got the whole intank basket Nuvo 30 basket. I should have have enough room in the sump but the Nuvo Basket is massive. I originally tried to make 3 baffles in the back but with the pump and the protein skimmer the heater has to go in the display side! Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 let it run with water to check for leaks... then em added sand a few days later let that hat run for a few days before I transfer everything from the old tank to the new one... Water is ready to go!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 So then I transferred everything from the old tank to the new tank... here's a couple pics 3 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Here's a shot of the overflow! I'm using filter floss, Purigen, Chemi-Pure Blue and Poly-Filter®. Again this is the nuvo 30 InTank basket. Have had no problems with this Coralife Protein Skimmer. This thing skims wet for sure, but once you get some film on the fitting of the cup where it meets the bubble chamber, it will get some foaming to it (so much that I had to tape the lid on in my old set-up and it will remain taped shut on this set up. Temperature is at 78.8F - a little higher than I'd like it. The donor tank ran at 77.8F and everything did fine. Hopefully we don't have a temperature bleaching of corals. Here's a view of the top, you can see really good that next to the Sicce and the skimmer, is a massive Nuvo 30 InTank Basket. It's something like 4.75" x 3.25" I can't remember the measurements... BUT this entire system was built around this basket!! I wanted a basket with enough size that I could put proper filtration in, and the IM 10/20/25 baskets were WAY to small for what I want to do. And if anybody knows anything; we LOVE filtration!! Unfortunately, InTank wasn't able to provide the measurement of the lip of this basket properly because the front legs are about a 1/2" shorter than the back legs (which doesn't make much sense to me). The depth of the cuts between the teeth in the overflow was measure exactly to the length of the InTank basket based off of the front leg dimensions. This makes the rim of the basket higher than the depth of the gaps between the overflow teeth. So in the picture below you see I have cut several 1" lengths of air tubing to help guide water into the basket. The lip of the basket is higher than the overflow cut out. Why care? Well there's about a 3MM gap between the edge of the basket and the sliding door up against the wall, water will flow into the teeth and straight down in front of the basket. Because the front of the basket which is basically the media door, does not sit flush with the edges of the basket.... get the picture? I'll draw a diagram. Not really the biggest deal in the world, but the majority of water flow is going right past the filter and it's a disadvantage for a lot of the fine detritus that I want to trap out of my system. Hopefully the little tube water channels work out... we'll see. DIY to the max... there's no such thing as perfect. 3 Quote Link to comment
yungKitten Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Great breakdown. Pretty elegant in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 On 8/9/2017 at 0:59 PM, yungKitten said: Great breakdown. Pretty elegant in my opinion. Thanks, I've put about a year into making sure everything would be right! Soooooo.... disgusted by this flow issue with the design of the InTank basket* I decided to mash my head against the wall until it clicked.... Take the airline tubing, slice it down the center and slide it over the edge of the basket and the soace between the basket wall and the overflow wall should be filled by the tube by creating a "bumper." It works pretty darn well. Card is just there to stop the flow because the tubing bumper is seemingly invisible with water flowing over it. the yellow lines in this illustration show that the tubing does in fact block the gap as calculated and allows the water to come cascading into the basket! As a side note, so each morning before lights in, my PH test is 8! Might not need the chaeto. But someone suggested a light that works so well on chaeto that he has to fight "too low" nitrate levels. more to come... *im not bashing the InTank basket. The creator and the product are absolutely awesome! 4 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 8/8/2017 at 6:32 AM, Weetabix7 said: Interesting. So you have an InTank basket, or parts from an InTank basket in the DIY sump? You should have enough room in the overflow/sump portion to fit that heater in there, shouldn't you? I've always liked 20 long tank and am curious to see how this comes together. I need a comment so I can post more pics lol Quote Link to comment
yungKitten Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, I'm Batman said: I need a comment so I can post more pics lol Have one? 1 Quote Link to comment
Lula_Mae Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 On 8/14/2017 at 11:53 PM, I'm Batman said: I need a comment so I can post more pics lol Or do what I do and just post pics anyway lol. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Lula_Mae said: Or do what I do and just post pics anyway lol. Lol it only lets me post 6mb of pictures until somebody else posts then I can post another 6mb of pics. And each pic is about 2mb @cromag08 yoooooooooo Cromag!!!! Check out my all in one!! 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Ok so it's been a little bit since I've updated this. I got some awesome frags from a buddy here locally. Check these out! Fruit Loop Zoa's Sunset monitpora, montipora spongeodes and tubbs stellata montipora 6 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Any ideas on placement for these? Quote Link to comment
GregEmmitte Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Epic. I made one of these.. never got to test it out other than leak testing.. going in a different direction. Yours is badass. Way better than how mine came out! 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Tank update... looking good! 2 minutes ago, GregEmmitte said: Epic. I made one of these.. never got to test it out other than leak testing.. going in a different direction. Yours is badass. Way better than how mine came out! Hey thanks!!! This was a year in progress... now I'm battling placement options! I need more rocks! 2 Quote Link to comment
GregEmmitte Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Make a shelf and put a nem on it.. 1 Quote Link to comment
I'm Batman Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, GregEmmitte said: Make a shelf and put a nem on it.. I'm having anemone migrating issue at the moment... this was him the week I transferred this all over. This is was him last Monday - mind you heading to hundreds of dollars of corals lol. This was my prevention effort. A piece of acrylic... Worked pretty well! I can't post the next pic until someone else comments, but yeah he's trying to find his home lol. Quote Link to comment
GregEmmitte Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Yea they freaking roam at will. The best is when they decide to free float into the power head. Yay 1 Quote Link to comment
xthunt Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I use the biocube skimmer too, and have same issue with the firm bubbles popping the lid off. Especially at night. If I hold the lid down, bubbles come through the breather hole. So I decided to make a skimmer, and eliminate the cup altogether. Going to try and make a reef glass clone, and run it all to a bottle. If I like the concept enough and works better than the biocube one, I'll buy the real one. 1 Quote Link to comment
Lula_Mae Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 hours ago, I'm Batman said: Lol it only lets me post 6mb of pictures until somebody else posts then I can post another 6mb of pics. And each pic is about 2mb @cromag08 yoooooooooo Cromag!!!! Check out my all in one!! Try using a service like Flickr to host the pics. Don't use photobucket, they disallowed image hosting for 3rd party websites. Quote Link to comment
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