MrJoel Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Is it cloudy all day or just for a while after the lights first come on? My tank goes cloudy usually in the AM just after the lights come on and then the clouding goes away after a few hours. Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's hard to tell. I would says it's slightly cloudy throughout the day if I had to pinpoint it. Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's hard to tell. I would says it's slightly cloudy throughout the day if I had to pinpoint it. Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 Params tested after 20% change salinity 1.025 dKH 9.2 Ca 450ppm mg 1500ppm Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Anyone have any idea why my GSP is still barely coming out with the readings I am getting suggesting that my water is in line with optimal or close to optimal levels? I am still getting brownish build up on my glass but the hair algae seems to be recinding. Quote Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Jrkrouse13 said: Anyone have any idea why my GSP is still barely coming out with the readings I am getting suggesting that my water is in line with optimal or close to optimal levels? I am still getting brownish build up on my glass but the hair algae seems to be recinding. Did you lightly scrub it with a soft toothbrush? GSP will close up and shed every now again for no reason. Happens 1 or 2 times a year in my tanks. I found bushing them helps them open faster. Also what is your light like? My GSP hates low flow and low light, only opens high in the tank and with a power head right on it. Edited May 17, 2017 by Hippieheadshot 1 Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 My light is a current marine orbit led. The frag is off to the left of my tank just out of direct downward flow from the filter. I did scrub it a few days ago and it came out a bit but less than 25% probably. Quote Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The cloudiness could be a possible bacterial bloom. However gsp can go into hiding for a very very long time. I had a 40br many years ago full of sps along with some lps in there. I had a basketball size chunk of gspin there as well. I went on vacation for a week and came back to my sump light in my tank and all my fish and coral dead. It was devastating. I ended up doing a 100% water change and basically started the tank over from scratch. Well it took several months for the tank to balance out but I never gave up on it. I refrained from adding any coral the entire time. About two and a half months later I noticed a single weak little green polyp sticking out that rock. The following day a few more, then finally within a weeks time the entire rock was in its full glory. 2 Quote Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 @gulfsurfer101 man that is an aweful loss, lest something made it through. Just goes to show GSP will never die! 1 Quote Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Jrkrouse13 said: My light is a current marine orbit led. The frag is off to the left of my tank just out of direct downward flow from the filter. I did scrub it a few days ago and it came out a bit but less than 25% probably. Nothing crazy there, I'd give it time and keep up on cleaning of and algae or debris. As long as it isn't losing color in the mat I would not be worried. Think my GSP went about 3 weeks closed at one point. Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 If the cloudiness is whitish could be bacterial, if its a greenish tinge, algae. Do you use carbon because that clears up water. Purigen also is a nice product. I prefer regular carbon to chemipure as i like changing it often. Gsp definitely likes light and flow. They can often close up for no known cause. The brown dusting algae looks like diatoms. Quote Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 18 hours ago, Hippieheadshot said: @gulfsurfer101 man that is an aweful loss, lest something made it through. Just goes to show GSP will never die! Unfortunately it was. That's the reef game though! Thought abbot tearing it all down several times in the following weeks. Never actually could go dry though. To the op, if the purple mat is still attached to the rock your ok. If it is easily blown off and evaporates like smoke then congratulations your now part of the elite few that has figured out how to effectively kill gsp. Welcome to the club! 3 Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Update on this ongoing issue. Tank water still looks cloudy. Brown diatoms still reappear daily. I am not sure what to do at this point as all my parameters continuously test the same within slight varying degrees. I am not sure if switching to rodi water will work or getting rid of my hob filter for a skimmer will be better. If anyone has an opinion please feel free. also moved my gsp about 6 inches to the right under the hob filter flow to hopefully get some higher flow hitting it. Quote Link to comment
1891Bro Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Jrkrouse13 said: Update on this ongoing issue. Tank water still looks cloudy. Brown diatoms still reappear daily. I am not sure what to do at this point as all my parameters continuously test the same within slight varying degrees. I am not sure if switching to rodi water will work or getting rid of my hob filter for a skimmer will be better. If anyone has an opinion please feel free. also moved my gsp about 6 inches to the right under the hob filter flow to hopefully get some higher flow hitting it. So, If you're not currently using rodi, what is your water source? I skimmed through but I couldn't find it. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 I am using filtered water through my system at my house Quote Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, Jrkrouse13 said: I am using filtered water through my system at my house When you say filtered? How so? Like a Brita water filter? Quote Link to comment
1891Bro Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 40 minutes ago, Jrkrouse13 said: I am using filtered water through my system at my house Drinking water? Quote Link to comment
Clown79 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 If its not RO/DI or distilled water, thats an issue for not only nutrients but various chemicals and minerals which can't be removed. That could be the issue to your algae and cloudiness. Its not the hob. Many nano tanks are run skimmerless with only hob and some with nothing. Water source is 1 of the most important aspects to a healthy reef. 2 Quote Link to comment
1891Bro Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, Clown79 said: If its not RO/DI or distilled water, thats an issue for not only nutrients but various chemicals and minerals which can't be removed. That could be the issue to your algae and cloudiness. Its not the hob. Many nano tanks are run skimmerless with only hob and some with nothing. Water source is 1 of the most important aspects to a healthy reef. +1 If GSP ispissed and you've been using anything other than water @Clown79 mentioned good thing to try is a %100 water change with either confirmed pure rodi or distilled. Using the same salt mix you've been using and matching temp and salinity. 2 Quote Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Filtered water is most likely going to be your culprit here. There are too many contaminants such as nutrient phosphates, metals, and worst of all most likely silicates. There in lies your problem. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 I will be buying some ro water and doing a water change to see how that affects the tank. I will post results as soon as I get a chance to confirm if this is the issue 2 Quote Link to comment
RayWhisperer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Ok. I just assumed you were using rodi as your water source. That's without a doubt your issue. 4 Quote Link to comment
Lula_Mae Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I agree that the water is likely the culprit. RO/DI or distilled only for reefs! Did you ever take the sponge out of the filter? Those can become nutrient traps and contribute to algae issues as well. 2 Quote Link to comment
Jrkrouse13 Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 The trouble is on going. I recently did a full change with the rodi water and this evening found the majority of my snails are now dead. Quote Link to comment
Lula_Mae Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 41 minutes ago, Jrkrouse13 said: The trouble is on going. I recently did a full change with the rodi water and this evening found the majority of my snails are now dead. After doing a water change with saltwater made with RO/DI? Where is the water from? 1 Quote Link to comment
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