Wingy Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Over the last week i have tried to picture my "something" sitting on my desk and i have narrowed the choices down to a vertical jar with xenia, a wide cylinder with live rock, macroalgae and hitchhikers or making a shrimp bowl that looks like a upside-down snow globe and hoping no one notices the shrimp. I am not sure if the xenia would be happy with being thrust into a cooler and going for a car ride twice a week. I have done some research on a muffle box for an air pump and i think i can miniaturize the boxes used with portable generators. A cork top and base coated with silicone sealant, in theory, should quiet internal noise from a small internal filter or pump. Decisions decisions. I wish i could have all 3. Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Why on earth couldn't you combine them and have all 3??? They would all do fine together. Xenia is super resilient and could handle trips just fine. I like your ideas for muffling noise. Quote Link to comment
Lula_Mae Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Weetabix7 said: Why on earth couldn't you combine them and have all 3??? They would all do fine together. Xenia is super resilient and could handle trips just fine. I like your ideas for muffling noise. Would work fine unless he's referring to Opae Ula shrimp which do not do well in full salt water and need brackish. Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 The opae ula need brackish water. Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lula_Mae said: Would work fine unless he's referring to Opae Ula shrimp which do not do well in full salt water and need brackish. Yeah, just reminded myself of that. I'm so used to thinking in SW terms, so I was of course thinking of the really small SW shrimps. Sorry, carry on!! Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 What is the smallest sw shrimp? Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Wingy said: What is the smallest sw shrimp? Copepods and amphipods, so small that you'd never be caught out with them. Sorta like "Sea Monkeys". Will likely come in on their own as hitchhikers, they usually do, on live rock and stuff. After that, these are pretty small: https://www.kpaquatics.com/product/anemone-shrimp-pederson/ Stay smaller than an inch and are translucent, so less visually noticeable. However, they swim around a lot and are active. I have kept a tank with those shrimp, macroalgaes and xenia (the one in my sig). Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Weetabix you are such an enabler. ? Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Wingy said: Weetabix you are such an enabler. ? Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 The hvac is out at work for the foreseeable future. Plans are on hold while I try and determine if the hvac is going to be replaced and a timetable. Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wingy said: The hvac is out at work for the foreseeable future. Plans are on hold while I try and determine if the hvac is going to be replaced and a timetable. More time to plan and scheme.... Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, Weetabix7 said: More time to plan and scheme.... Exactly. Quote Link to comment
leoff Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 What about an underwater pump? They do take a lot of space and look horrible, but - hear me out. What if you make an "artificial rock" and hide the pump inside? Almost zero noise. And low footprint. And may even help heating the jar. Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, leoff said: What about an underwater pump? They do take a lot of space and look horrible, but - hear me out. What if you make an "artificial rock" and hide the pump inside? Almost zero noise. And low footprint. And may even help heating the jar. That can be done, kinda like this: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/tunze-stream-rock-6200-250.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw0IvIBRDF0Yzq4qGE4IwBEiQATMQlMSthXgERTpGoumYHpaDSBtLqgnxOG7YuS9qBhaIUt7QaAujR8P8HAQ Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 I stopped at Petsmart and Walmart tonight and they had no air pumps. The shelves were bare. Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 7 hours ago, Wingy said: I stopped at Petsmart and Walmart tonight and they had no air pumps. The shelves were bare. Surely you could find a cheap one online, at Marine Depot, or Dr's Foster and Smith, or Amazon. Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 I absolutely could. I was just suprised that the shelves were bare in both stores. The hvac was replaced at work. They must have bought a larger unit because the air flow is much better and now it is darn right chilly in my corner. Quote Link to comment
dandelion Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 On 4/28/2017 at 7:07 PM, leoff said: What about an underwater pump? They do take a lot of space and look horrible, but - hear me out. What if you make an "artificial rock" and hide the pump inside? Almost zero noise. And low footprint. And may even help heating the jar. Heat from the pump will cock anything in the jar. Tried that been there. Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, dandelion said: Heat from the pump will cock anything in the jar. Tried that been there. Thank you for the info. Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 I was doing some reading today that suggested that Pulsing Xenia needs no additional flow and that the pulsing provides all the water movement it needs. It contradicts the care sheets that say everything from low to high flow. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment
dandelion Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Maybe enough to wave away ammonia it produced but not enough to bring said ammonia to bacteria in rocks to process. Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 One of the ideas i had swilring around in my head was a daily 100% water change by drips and spread out over 8 hours. I could accomplish this by using a sun tea jar and changing out the spigot. Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Wingy said: One of the ideas i had swilring around in my head was a daily 100% water change by drips and spread out over 8 hours. I could accomplish this by using a sun tea jar and changing out the spigot. Huh. This is actually very interesting, I like the ideas you come up with!! I think this could work. What were you thinking of for livestock in a system like this? Quote Link to comment
Wingy Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 I was thinking of starting off with live rock (possibly uncured) and it's hitchhikers as the center piece flanked by the Xenia on one side and macro algae on the other (species undecided). There is going to be die off from the rock so a slow but constant exchange of water might be good. 1 Quote Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 47 minutes ago, Wingy said: I was thinking of starting off with live rock (possibly uncured) and it's hitchhikers as the center piece flanked by the Xenia on one side and macro algae on the other (species undecided). There is going to be die off from the rock so a slow but constant exchange of water might be good. Sounds great to me, as long as you have a reasonable way of pulling off your plan. I have always loved watching the life emerge from good quality uncured live rock. Quote Link to comment
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