Milky Way Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's been 2 weeks now since i started cycling my nano 12 gall tank. I have aragonite live sand. it came in with water inside of the package. it said on the package : "contains live marina bacteria" Its been 2 weeks now ammonia , nitrate, nitrite are 0. Do i need to throw shrimp in my tank? or can i start adding some livestock????? Please give me advice. Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Did you ever see any ammonia or nitrite at all? Link to comment
Milky Way Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just now, Weetabix7 said: Did you ever see any ammonia or nitrite at all? i haven't at all Just now, Weetabix7 said: Did you ever see any ammonia or nitrite at all? no algae bloom .......... nothing Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Sounds like time to toss a shrimp in. You need to have some source of ammonia so that you can get a large enough colony of nitrifying bacteria to be able to break down tank waste. Link to comment
Milky Way Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Just now, Weetabix7 said: Sounds like time to toss a shrimp in. You need to have some source of ammonia so that you can get a large enough colony of nitrifying bacteria to be able to break down tank waste. I've just added a shrimp in my tank. Lets see what happens))) Thank you. 2 minutes ago, Weetabix7 said: Sounds like time to toss a shrimp in. You need to have some source of ammonia so that you can get a large enough colony of nitrifying bacteria to be able to break down tank waste. i love you Weetabix7. You are the only one who always reply on my posts Link to comment
Simulated Fish Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I agree time to add a ammonia source and start testing over the next few days/ hours to confirm that it is getting converted. Personally I would go with artificial over a shrimp just to cut the time factor down ( waiting for the shrimp to break up and get eaten by the bacteria). Link to comment
RotaryReef Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 @Milky Way you have your test kits on hand? Assuming you do since you verified your levels are at 0. Now that the shrimp is in try test your parameters everyday and record them. Please feel free to post up your results here so we can look at it and let you know where the cycle stands. Also, +1 on @Weetabix7 being awesome! Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 @Milky Way; @NanoSteve That's how we make it work around here, everyone pitches in when they can. Won't be long til you're doing the same!! Link to comment
Clown79 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Did you use liverock or dry reef rock? If dry reef rock, you need to add ammonia source and the cleanest and best is ammonia dosing. The shrimp will work but slowly and it will cause high nutrients in the tank. Link to comment
Milky Way Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 49 minutes ago, Clown79 said: Did you use liverock or dry reef rock? If dry reef rock, you need to add ammonia source and the cleanest and best is ammonia dosing. The shrimp will work but slowly and it will cause high nutrients in the tank. i used live rocks Link to comment
GPFeathers Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 It happens. At least now you've introduced ammonia into the tank. Keep us updated! Link to comment
Weetabix7 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 If you use straight ammonia, make sure to get one that doesn't have added surfactants. Not positive, but I think I've heard that Ace carries a good one. Link to comment
Milky Way Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 thank you my friends for all your help. i'll keep you updated Link to comment
Hirsh Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Good luck with the tank and remember to take it slow and you will save a lot of frustration and money Link to comment
yungKitten Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Are they "Real Reef Rocks"? Link to comment
Milky Way Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, yungKitten said: Are they "Real Reef Rocks"? i believe so. Im not sure where it came from but the guy from LFS said its real and its been live and cycled. he said that they have just received that stock Link to comment
brandon429 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-microbiology-of-reef-tank-cycling.214618/ The next move for your tanks is a clump of zoanthids. Snails too, maybe a candy cane coral. That kind of rock is skip cycle bring home and go rock. Link to comment
brandon429 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/6-days-in-and-still-no-ammonia.292947/page-2 Link to comment
yungKitten Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, Milky Way said: i believe so. Im not sure where it came from but the guy from LFS said its real and its been live and cycled. he said that they have just received that stock I'd try dosing ammonium chloride instead of using a shrimp. Shrimp is a good option but dosing ammonia precisely is better in my opinion. If the rock you have is http://realreefrock.com (from the picure it appears this is the case, but I could be wrong.) then it's possible the cycle will be quite mild. What kind of test kit are you using? Link to comment
Milky Way Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, yungKitten said: I'd try dosing ammonium chloride instead of using a shrimp. Shrimp is a good option but dosing ammonia precisely is better in my opinion. If the rock you have is http://realreefrock.com (from the picure it appears this is the case, but I could be wrong.) then it's possible the cycle will be quite mild. What kind of test kit are you using? I'm using API salt water test kit. I have this kit for more than a year. The expiration date is 2018. 37 minutes ago, brandon429 said: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/the-microbiology-of-reef-tank-cycling.214618/ that shows clues to tell if rock is live and if it is, you just start. Lfs guy has confirmed too. We see those rocks a lot, they're ready the sole takeaway from that link is how group b rock = begin The next move for your tanks is a clump of zoanthids. thank you very much !!! very informative!!!!! Now I'm more confused Link to comment
brandon429 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 your rock is group B from the thread, and there are likely already tiny pods in the tank that ride in on group B rock The next thread I posted is a RRR thread for direct comparison to yours Link to comment
Milky Way Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, brandon429 said: Yep lol it takes six pages to simply discern which group of rocks gets ammonia and which do not, and there's only three sets we work with in reefing your rock is group B and there are likely already tiny pods in the tank that ride in on group B rock so with group B do you need to add shrimp or liquid ammonia or not? i researched online and still confused because ppl say different things Link to comment
RotaryReef Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 You are fine with the shrimp @Milky Way. Let it run its course and just test your water, no need to be confused lol. Everyone has a different way of cycling their tank and what they think is the best approach. Link to comment
Hirsh Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I used premium live rock and live sand, and I never had a cycle. I used Brandon429 advise and my tank has ran perfect for over a month now. Link to comment
brandon429 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 We don't think anyone should rush fish purchases or plumbing/temp verification etc but for the realm of cycling Milky Way you are past that stage and onto the next, that's a simple way to see it. You are at the choose your first coral stage. the second link I posted is literally a real reef rock setup just like yours. Your tank will run like his did he has new corals as of now, little animals stuck to the glass etc from the second link consider the ratio of posters saying to hit the tank with ammonia. there isn't any setup where posters recommend not spiking with ammonia yet half the cycles being done on forums are the kind we do not add ammonia to... its a never ending cycle pun intended lol put down the ammonia, go buy some ten dollar zoanthids and install/enjoy ammonia is for dry rock cycling, toughest concept for new keepers in tank cycling threads. your rock was wet from a long time ago and ill bet theres little critters to prove it if we check in fine detail for pods in the tank Link to comment
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