pgrVII Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hmm, he is pretty small. Hopefully he stays clear. I'll need to invest in one eventually. I also figured I'd probably have to get one of the shields, but I wanted to test it out first to see if I did. I would order some just to have em around never hurts 1 Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hmm, I don't know much about either of those. Should I have bought a sponge cover for the mp10? What if my shrimp gets sucked into it?! Comes with one! Don't fret 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 I would order some just to have em around never hurts I'm so excited! I wish I had a big tank to test out it's power! 1 Quote Link to comment
pgrVII Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I'm so excited! I wish I had a big tank to test out it's power! I'm stoked for you. 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Comes with one! Don't fret Oh thank goodness!! I'm stoked for you. Hopefully after I get some bills paid off I can start stocking everything again. I'm going to bring home some of my coral that my brother is holding onto for me. Hopefully they are still small enough to fit in the tanks! 1 Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Oh thank goodness!! Yep!!! They all come with a cord hanging/support kit (USE IT. OR YOUR FANCY MP10 WILL GET BUMPED AND SHATTER ON THE FLOOR) and the sponge. I actually use the Vortech Sponge as a method of filtration in my tank. I just wash it once a week in the sink and get a bunch of lovely brown goo off of it 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yep!!! They all come with a cord hanging/support kit (USE IT. OR YOUR FANCY MP10 WILL GET BUMPED AND SHATTER ON THE FLOOR) and the sponge. I actually use the Vortech Sponge as a method of filtration in my tank. I just wash it once a week in the sink and get a bunch of lovely brown goo off of it Interesting. Shouldn't you wash it in dirty tank water though instead? That way you don't have a spike in nitrates from all those bacteria dying off? I know doing exactly that is what nuked one of my freshwater tanks. Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Interesting. Shouldn't you wash it in dirty tank water though instead? That way you don't have a spike in nitrates from all those bacteria dying off? I know doing exactly that is what nuked one of my freshwater tanks. What? The amount of nitrate processing bacteria on the sponge is minimal. The bacteria in/on your rocks, sand, and filtration media will do that. Changing/washing the sponge is the same as changing filter floss; I'm sure you've done that before! 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 What? The amount of nitrate processing bacteria on the sponge is minimal. The bacteria in/on your rocks, sand, and filtration media will do that. Changing/washing the sponge is the same as changing filter floss; I'm sure you've done that before! The difference is that I take my filter floss out and throw it away so that the dead bacteria aren't left in the tank. You are killing the bacteria and then putting them back in the tank. Just my thoughts. You'd be safer to wash it out in the old tank water to avoid killing the bacteria. you'd still get the grime out...but with less bioload post cleaning. Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The difference is that I take my filter floss out and throw it away so that the dead bacteria aren't left in the tank. You are killing the bacteria and then putting them back in the tank. Well I'm briefly (Just using fresh water- no soap or Chlorine) washing 99% of the detritus off of it and then putting it back in. Sure there may be a tiny bit of detritus left on it after, but not much! Like the water runs dark brown with poo first, and then I wash it until it runs clear. Then i pop it back on; I don't see where the die-off is! Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 The die off is from the freshwater. Same reason (basically) that we do freshwater dips for corals. To kill off things that need saltwater to survive. Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The die off is from the freshwater. Same reason (basically) that we do freshwater dips for corals. To kill off things that need saltwater to survive. Right but as one handles the sponge under flow 99% of that comes off I hear what you're saying, that there may be some bacteria left on the sponge that are reintroduced into the tank. However given that so much of them were washed down the drain, I think there is an infinitesmal effect. Im going to look into it more online- now I'm intrigued 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Right but as one handles the sponge under flow 99% of that comes off I hear what you're saying, that there may be some bacteria left on the sponge that are reintroduced into the tank. However given that so much of them were washed down the drain, I think there is an infinitesmal effect. Im going to look into it more online- now I'm intrigued Like I said, just my opinion. I also keep much smaller tanks than you so the impact would be much larger. Regardless, you technically would be saving money (or your parents) even though not much by just using the old tank water you are taking out for your waterchange anyway. Killing two birds with one stone and possibly reducing a small amount of a spike. With the large amount of rocks/sand in your tank I doubt it even registers on the tests, but like I said...smaller tank...more cautious. 1 Quote Link to comment
kimberbee Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It has a subtle green hue to it when I look at it closely under the lights! How are your nems? All my nems are doing great!! I hope your little stick starts to grow!! 2 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 All my nems are doing great!! I hope your little stick starts to grow!! I'm sure it will very soon. I'm not sure how to get a picture of the green tips on it, but it is coloring up nicely! 1 Quote Link to comment
pgrVII Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm sure it will very soon. I'm not sure how to get a picture of the green tips on it, but it is coloring up nicely! Hooray green tips! 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 The bloodshot zoas are still not opening. I'll give them another day before attempting a different dip. I don't have any Bayer, what else do people like to use? I've checked these out during the night, but I haven't seen anything on them. Quote Link to comment
pgrVII Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The bloodshot zoas are still not opening. I'll give them another day before attempting a different dip. I don't have any Bayer, what else do people like to use? I've checked these out during the night, but I haven't seen anything on them. Got zoa troubles darlin? I use all out,which essentially is aloe and bayer but works well all the same. Where's the zoas located? 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Got zoa troubles darlin? I use all out,which essentially is aloe and bayer but works well all the same. Where's the zoas located? Yes! They are currently on the sandbed not touching anything else. They were big and beautiful the first few days, since then they have been closed up tight! I used Reef dip from seachem. 1 Quote Link to comment
pgrVII Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yes! They are currently on the sandbed not touching anything else. They were big and beautiful the first few days, since then they have been closed up tight! I used Reef dip from seachem. You got any little crabs or shrimp that may be picking at them? 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 You got any little crabs or shrimp that may be picking at them? I have two little zebra hermits, my skunk cleaner and a VERY tiny porcelain crab. I've checked it multiple times throughout the day, but haven't seen any of them near it. I thought maybe the pods were bugging them, but even at night I don't see anything. Do zoas ever shed? I haven't seen this before, but it looks like a very thin layer is sloughing off...not in a way that it looks like they are dying, but rather...shedding? If that made sense... 1 Quote Link to comment
pgrVII Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I have two little zebra hermits, my skunk cleaner and a VERY tiny porcelain crab. I've checked it multiple times throughout the day, but haven't seen any of them near it. I thought maybe the pods were bugging them, but even at night I don't see anything. Do zoas ever shed? I haven't seen this before, but it looks like a very thin layer is sloughing off...not in a way that it looks like they are dying, but rather...shedding? If that made sense... I've never seen any of mine do that, hmmm,interesting, nothing came out with bayer? 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 I've never seen any of mine do that, hmmm,interesting, nothing came out with bayer? I've never tried a bayer dip. But nothing came out with the freshwater dip or the reef dip. 1 Quote Link to comment
pgrVII Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I've never tried a bayer dip. But nothing came out with the freshwater dip or the reef dip. Move it up a bit see if it likes more flow, if it's something irritating it it may make I harder to settle on it with more flow 1 Quote Link to comment
Merthynia Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Move it up a bit see if it likes more flow, if it's something irritating it it may make I harder to settle on it with more flow I'll give that a shot, it may help that shed fall off also if that is what it is. Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment
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