MrNanoReef Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I'm curious if there any interests in a custom built SOB AIO Sump/Refugium such as this unit that I made for my 12g long tank. It's been running for almost 2 years flawlessly! This is 24x5.5x12 approx 6.2 gallons. I'm thinking of pre-built a few units at different size but I can custom build to your tank size depending on the requirement. This would be a great option for someone who is afraid or don't want to drill a tank to run traditional sump setup. Last I looked, there weren't anything like this on the market or I would have bought one instead. CPR branded HOB Refugium or cheap eBay ones with in-built skimmer which im sure you'd agree not the best option, it leave you no option for filter medias or skimmer of your choice. Here are some benefits for me: Media Racks for: Filter pad, chemi-pure, purigen, carbon, phosguard, etc. Nano Skimmers option: Aquaticlife mini 115 or airstone base skimmer (Mame/Pico skimmer 2.0) Refugium Area for Chaeto / Macro algae Black wall to block out fuge lights Hide equipment from display: heater, skimmer, temp probe, ATO/dosing tubings, etc. Return water will be full of live pods to feed your corals that don't get killed by return pump Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Wait so, how does the water get into the HOB sump, a pump? then gravity overflows back into the tank? Link to comment
MrNanoReef Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Wait so, how does the water get into the HOB sump, a pump? then gravity overflows back into the tank? Exactly, i'd recommend at least 150gph. I'm using Eheim compact 600 pump it's perfect size and perfect flow. Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I like it alot actually. It's basically a big HOB filter. Does it need to sit on the stand also or can it just hang there like a HOB filter? Link to comment
MrNanoReef Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 I like it alot actually. It's basically a big HOB filter. Does it need to sit on the stand also or can it just hang there like a HOB filter? Less so, this is more like a full features sump that sized for stand in the back style. If your tank is taller than 9.5", then yes you need to raise it up on a stand, just make sure the return nozzle is fully under the water level. I'm all against the HOB mount for this particular design due to the fact that it's extremely heavy with water and you wouldn't want all that stress against the back of your tank, I wouldn't. Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 My next tank is definitely going to be something like a 36x18x20 or 36x24x20, I really like AIO but I just the room they take up. Im definitely going to message you down the road when that happens. Link to comment
MrNanoReef Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 My next tank is definitely going to be something like a 36x18x20 or 36x24x20, I really like AIO but I just the room they take up. Im definitely going to message you down the road when that happens. That's a nice size tank but I actually wanted to keep this to maximum size listed, I can build one smaller but not larger. I will not be able to ship it since I'm not a pro at shipping out something that large without the risk of cracking it, and all for all the time I put into the build, it is something I can't guarantee won't happen. Link to comment
HarryPotter Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 That's a nice size tank but I actually wanted to keep this to maximum size listed, I can build one smaller but not larger. I will not be able to ship it since I'm not a pro at shipping out something that large without the risk of cracking it, and all for all the time I put into the build, it is something I can't guarantee won't happen. You could/should definitely learn to ship acrylic- it would expand your market 5000x. Just a TON of bubble wrap, some foam pieces, etc. If one can ship large acrylic or glass tanks, one should be able to ship your items Link to comment
MrNanoReef Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 You could/should definitely learn to ship acrylic- it would expand your market 5000x. Just a TON of bubble wrap, some foam pieces, etc. If one can ship large acrylic or glass tanks, one should be able to ship your items I hear you but only if there is a market for it, that's a whole different game here, and not to mention if people are willing to pay for the costs of shipping? it will be expensive with tons of bubble wrap, peanuts, double boxes plus shipping fees. I think it's best to start small and go bigger, than go big first and fail Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 thats understandable, its not big deal, I actually really like working with acrylic. Link to comment
CrazyEyes Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Im just not seeing this difference between shipping something this size vs something larger. Just a bigger box, more padding and more cost for shipping. Everything else should be identical though. Link to comment
Speaker73 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 So was wondering what one of these would cost? Link to comment
MrNanoReef Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 So was wondering what one of these would cost? For this exact model/scheme, $295 + shipping and before you go ...research cost of acrylics and labor involved. I used all 1/4" thick cast acrylics with 3/16" baffles, also plumbing parts, bulkheads, etc. Last but not least, the labor will be over 22 hours total if not more. I can't rush the build because quality is very important to me and not just getting it done. I want to deliver something that you can trust to use for a long time, and not having to wonder all the time if it's going to break or leak on you. I may consider to offer a pre-built unit in the future if there is a market for it, but until then it will have to be made to order because it is not something I can invest in yet, financially. I also like to mention that I have a few minor improvement in mind so it won't be this exact model but a better version. Link to comment
cichlidtx Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Would you consider making a DIY kit for those that would be interested in assembling it themselves. Basically precut acrylic and assembly instructions. Most people don't have all the tools to cut but have the ability to assemble. This will enable smaller packaging for ease of shipping. Just a thought. Link to comment
Speaker73 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 For this exact model/scheme, $295 + shipping and before you go ...research cost of acrylics and labor involved. I used all 1/4" thick cast acrylics with 3/16" baffles, also plumbing parts, bulkheads, etc. Last but not least, the labor will be over 22 hours total if not more. I can't rush the build because quality is very important to me and not just getting it done. I want to deliver something that you can trust to use for a long time, and not having to wonder all the time if it's going to break or leak on you. I may consider to offer a pre-built unit in the future if there is a market for it, but until then it will have to be made to order because it is not something I can invest in yet, financially. I also like to mention that I have a few minor improvement in mind so it won't be this exact model but a better version. ! lol. Thanks for answering so fast. I like the product but can't swing the money at this time. Link to comment
MrNanoReef Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Would you consider making a DIY kit for those that would be interested in assembling it themselves. Basically precut acrylic and assembly instructions. Most people don't have all the tools to cut but have the ability to assemble. This will enable smaller packaging for ease of shipping. Just a thought. While that sounds like a great idea, the assembly part is actually a critical process, it is not something everyone can do, welding acrylics is not like silicone baffles into a sump. It'd be a total disaster if the joints aren't properly sealed, no matter how good the instruction, I'd rather not have people coming at me with problems later on like leaking or cracking. It's more trouble than it's worth. Speaking of which, I do have a sump kit that can be siliconed on your own into a standard 10 gallon aquarium, this is a better solution since the glass tank is something you can purchase at Walmart/Petsmart. ! lol. Thanks for answering so fast. I like the product but can't swing the money at this time. I can relate to that Link to comment
kakorb Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I would be interested in a sob tank. Since I already have an aio I would use it as a fuge and misc equip. I would need a design that pumped into it and flowed back into the tank like a hang on back. If it would be possible we could talk I seen u modified a hang on back filter like a fuge and was wondering if u made those too Link to comment
MrNanoReef Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 I would be interested in a sob tank. Since I already have an aio I would use it as a fuge and misc equip. I would need a design that pumped into it and flowed back into the tank like a hang on back. If it would be possible we could talk I seen u modified a hang on back filter like a fuge and was wondering if u made those too The model i posted do exactly that, the water is pumped into the SOB sump then gravity flow back into the tank. Pm me your requirements. Link to comment
martinicu Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Hi So is the pump inside the display tank? How does that look in your opinion? Link to comment
Oceanbox Designs Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Hi So is the pump inside the display tank? How does that look in your opinion? Yes, the proper way to complete the installation of this system is adding an overflow box to hide the pump. Not only to hide the pump but also allow for surface skimming as well as installing ATO sendor inside the overflow, that's where water level will drop a lot when the main display evaps, so you can actually keep the water level in tank spot on and perfectly stable Link to comment
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