Sun_Queen Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 So I'm planning a new build (I can never be happy with just one tank ) and would love some opinions on my proposed equipment list. If you think anything needs to be changed please let me know! Oh and I'm planning on making the 20 long into a sump/fuge for the 40 display if anyone can see a reasone that wouoldn't work out well please let me know now! Also I'd love some help picking a good protein skimmer since I can't figure out what would work well in this tank size. 40 Breeder Equipment List Rapid LEDs order (lights and controller): · Standard Solderless 40g Breeder Dimmable Kit · Neptune Apex Aqua Controller with Lab Grade pH Probe · Neptune Variable Speed/Dimming Control (VDM Module) · Neptune 2 Channel Apex to Light Dimming Cable x3 Bulk Reef Supply Order (apex unit/RODI machine): · SALINITY MODULE: PM2 - NEPTUNE SYSTEMS · BRS 4 STAGE VALUE PLUS RO/DI SYSTEM - 75GPD Glass-Holes Order (overflow/plumbing): · 700 or 1500 overflow kit · Tanks: · 40 gallon breeder (display) · 20 gallon long (sump) skimmer: ??? Link to comment
Sun_Queen Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 good question... I'm not 100% sure yet. For corals it's going to be mixed with primarily LPS and softies (I'm too scared of sps -.-) as far as fish go I'm a pretty big fan of under stocking but the two that I really want are a flame angel and a mandarin dragonet (though they'd both be added when the tank is well established and I won't put them in at all if I don't think my tank could handle it) I'm open to suggestions for other fish since those are the only two my heart is set on! Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Rapid LEDs order (lights and controller): · Standard Solderless 40g Breeder Dimmable Kit Have you already ordered this? If you haven't you can definitely find better lighting kits. It's not a full spectrum kit. You'll want cool blues, neutral or warm whites, etc. Link to comment
farkwar Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Get the 29 for sump. Partition off 6 to 10 gallons for your ATO reservoir. That overflow is for 25gallon and smaller. Get at least the 700gph overflow. 300gph is far under what I would use. I would get something in the 1000gph range, with typical head losses it will net you about 700 to match that overflow. Put a ball valve inline to regulate flow. Link to comment
Sun_Queen Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 Have you already ordered this? If you haven't you can definitely find better lighting kits. It's not a full spectrum kit. You'll want cool blues, neutral or warm whites, etc. I haven't ordered anything yet- what kits do you recommend? I'm open to any ideas! Get the 29 for sump. Partition off 6 to 10 gallons for your ATO reservoir. That overflow is for 25gallon and smaller. Get at least the 700gph overflow. 300gph is far under what I would use. I would get something in the 1000gph range, with typical head losses it will net you about 700 to match that overflow. Put a ball valve inline to regulate flow. oh yeah I forgot to update this list (I was originally going to do a 20 long display instead of 40 gallon and that's when I picked out the overflow) thanks for reminding me to do that! I was planing on just having a separate ATO container, is it better to have it as part of the sump? Link to comment
Mojado Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 300gph is far under what I would use. I would get something in the 1000gph range, with typical head losses it will net you about 700 to match that overflow. Put a ball valve inline to regulate flow. You don't need to match overflow . . .just don't exceed it. The glass-holes 700 with a 700gph pump will suffice. With 4.5' of headloss, you'd be in the 450-500 GPH . . .more than enough for a 40B. Link to comment
Bill Nye Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 If you are going to be running a durso style set up I wouldn't try to push the limits of your bulkhead as it will be very loud. Most people recommend about 3 - 5 x the display volume per hour for flow through the sump. I would look at the Jebao DC series pumps. They are highly adjustable so you can fine tune it to your needs. I have read many people recommend the curve 5 for a 40b. I have the SC-301 (which is a knock off of the curve 3) on a 50 gallon breeder but I think it will be too small. The tank is still cycling so I'm not sure what the performance will be like when stocked. As far as lighting is concerned I would look at T5s. I have a 6 bulb ATI sunpower and love it. Link to comment
HM3105 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Glass-Holes Order (overflow/plumbing): · 700 or 1500 overflow kit Get the bigger overflow, I use the 700 and I wish I had gone bigger. Link to comment
Mojado Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Get the bigger overflow, I use the 700 and I wish I had gone bigger. Really? Why's that? Link to comment
NorthGaHillbilly Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I would really look into running a herbie as opposed to a dorso. MUCH better overflow style IMO Link to comment
Sun_Queen Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 As far as lighting is concerned I would look at T5s. I have a 6 bulb ATI sunpower and love it. I really want to stick to LEDs- I like the fact that they stay cooler and I'm awful about remembering to change out light bulbs when it's needed I would really look into running a herbie as opposed to a dorso. MUCH better overflow style IMO I'll have to look into that, thank you for the advice! The only problem is finding a tank that isn't tempered on the bottom (the herbie is the one that is drilled through the bottom right?) most 40B are tempered on the bottom Link to comment
NorthGaHillbilly Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I really want to stick to LEDs- I like the fact that they stay cooler and I'm awful about remembering to change out light bulbs when it's needed I'll have to look into that, thank you for the advice! The only problem is finding a tank that isn't tempered on the bottom (the herbie is the one that is drilled through the bottom right?) most 40B are tempered on the bottom You could also run it through the back, with overflow box, one 90 thats turned down, and the other up, both 1" Link to comment
Sun_Queen Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 You could also run it through the back, with overflow box, one 90 thats turned down, and the other up, both 1" I didn't know that! I'll def. look into doing that! thank you Link to comment
NorthGaHillbilly Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I didn't know that! I'll def. look into doing that! thank you Ill look around and see if I can find something too http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1991707 http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/207886-drilling-holes-in-glass/ Link to comment
plainrt Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Vertex 130 maybe for skimmer. Just me but I wouldn't use a tall 29 gal sump. Makes hard to work in imo. Also would make the ato area separate from sump. Link to comment
Simplicity Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'd recommend the Spectra Pure 90GPD Refurbished RO/DI over the BRS RO/DI. Its cheaper and has higher quality filters. Link: http://spectrapure.com/Refurbished-90-GPD-RODI-System. Link to comment
Mojado Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I would really look into running a herbie as opposed to a dorso. MUCH better overflow style IMO How often do you have to re-tune the Herbie? Link to comment
Bill Nye Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 How often do you have to re-tune the Herbie? My reef is set up as a herbie after 2 weeks of trying to silence my durso. I had to adjust it a lot initially to get it squared away but now I don't touch it anymore. You need less adjustment if you run your emergency drain wet but some people claim it leaves you more open to a flood. IMO I dont see much danger from running a trickle down it. If you are going to do a herbie I recommend getting the best gate valve you can as it makes life so much easier. I ordered the spears gate valve from BRS and it is definitely worth the extra money. Link to comment
Mojado Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 My reef is set up as a herbie after 2 weeks of trying to silence my durso. I had to adjust it a lot initially to get it squared away but now I don't touch it anymore. You need less adjustment if you run your emergency drain wet but some people claim it leaves you more open to a flood. IMO I dont see much danger from running a trickle down it. If you are going to do a herbie I recommend getting the best gate valve you can as it makes life so much easier. I ordered the spears gate valve from BRS and it is definitely worth the extra money. Ah, ok. It just seems that ANY perturbation of the pump output, or even just the most minute obstruction of the valve will throw the whole thing out of balance. It's not self-regulating like the durso. Link to comment
Bill Nye Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It is true its more touchy than a durso but it is completely silent. Can't beat silence... Link to comment
NorthGaHillbilly Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Ah, ok. It just seems that ANY perturbation of the pump output, or even just the most minute obstruction of the valve will throw the whole thing out of balance. It's not self-regulating like the durso.If run with the emergency dry your 100% right, but if you let alittle water trickle down it you end up with some wiggle room. I can turn my reactor feed off, adding atleast 50gph to the return, aND see very little change Link to comment
farkwar Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Really? Why's that? If a mechanical filter like a sock is used, faster throughput means detritus out of the tank faster. I change mine every few days. When I get a dozen dirty ones, I throw them in the washer. Link to comment
Mojado Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 If a mechanical filter like a sock is used, faster throughput means detritus out of the tank faster. I change mine every few days. When I get a dozen dirty ones, I throw them in the washer. almost 20x turnover? If you change out the sock every few days, why does it matter if you are turning over the water volume more than 5-10 times every hour? I would understand if you changed out the sock every half hour, but at every few days, it shouldn't matter. Link to comment
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