FlowerMama Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Lots of information in there. Wonderful. Nice to have so many helpful people. Quote Link to comment
Fnard Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 These are awesome animals and very intrigued by them. Hopefully one of these days I'll setup another tank for one. It looks like you are doing a great setting up the tank so that it is put into a good environment. The one question I have, why is it that the majority we see are smashers? I kinda dig the spearers. Are the too expensive? Hard too get? Too fragile? Haven't done much research, but if I do decide to set something up, I certainly will. Quote Link to comment
dixie reefer Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 I heard that spearers are more reclusive than smashers. I'm getting a smasher because I want one that wonders around and is active. 1 Quote Link to comment
FlowerMama Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 These are awesome animals and very intrigued by them. Hopefully one of these days I'll setup another tank for one. It looks like you are doing a great setting up the tank so that it is put into a good environment. The one question I have, why is it that the majority we see are smashers? I kinda dig the spearers. Are the too expensive? Hard too get? Too fragile? Haven't done much research, but if I do decide to set something up, I certainly will. I don't know why you don't hear as much about spearers. Your right. There's one shrimp listed on KP/Sealife Site that is solely a spearer- Pseudosquilla ciliata and it's common in the Keys says the descriiption. 2 Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Majority of mantis shrimp are actually spearing type (in the wild that is) but we don't see them too often. I THINK it is because they are ambush predators and when I see pictures of them in their natural habitat, they are in deep sand burrows and not live rock. I guess that would mean, if a lot of mantises get imported with live rock... then it would be mostly smashers. That's just my best guess anyways. I would agree with dixie, I believe they would be more reclusive so it can "ambush" the fishies! uhhh? peek-a-boo! 3 Quote Link to comment
FlowerMama Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I heard that spearers are more reclusive than smashers. I'm getting a smasher because I want one that wonders around and is active. There we go! now we know why! They're probably out there but because everyone wants the noise we hear more about the smashers, just the awe that goes with them. Majority of mantis shrimp are actually spearing type (in the wild that is) but we don't see them too often. I THINK it is because they are ambush predators and when I see pictures of them in their natural habitat, they are in deep sand burrows and not live rock. I guess that would mean, if a lot of mantises get imported with live rock... then it would be mostly smashers. That's just my best guess anyways. I would agree with dixie, I believe they would be more reclusive so it can "ambush" the fishies! uhhh? peek-a-boo! Holy Crap! UM...yeah. Bye bye. Those arms look as long as praying mantis. Quote Link to comment
dixie reefer Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Where can I find studies on mantis shrimp sone by Dr. Roy? 1 Quote Link to comment
albertthiel Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Where can I find studies on mantis shrimp sone by Dr. Roy? Here is a very general one http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthropoda/crustacea/malacostraca/eumalacostraca/royslist/ and here is another one but there are plenty more http://escholarship.org/uc/item/9rm208j9#page-1 And check Dr. Sheila Patek's site too http://www.thepateklab.org/mechanics-movement-mantis-shrimp 2 Quote Link to comment
Maniu Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthropoda/crustacea/malacostraca/eumalacostraca/royslist/ http://www.coralscience.org/articles/PDF/The%20science%20behind%20stomatopods.pdf http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/shrimpcare/a/aamantisshrimpinfo.htm 2 Quote Link to comment
albertthiel Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I don't know why you don't hear as much about spearers. Your right. There's one shrimp listed on KP/Sealife Site that is solely a spearer- Pseudosquilla ciliata and it's common in the Keys says the descriiption. Probably because the larger ones are harder to keep because you need real deep sand beds and of course you need to provide a totally different kind of food for them 1 Quote Link to comment
dixie reefer Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thank you both! Quote Link to comment
NirvanaandTool Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I've really only seen P. ciliata & L. maculata offered in the trade. Other spearers are pretty rare. Lmac's are pretty reclusive but Dr. Roy's setup with the viewable burrow sounds awesome. Quote Link to comment
stokeds Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have one with 2 damsels......and i can hand feed mine Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have one with 2 damsels......and i can hand feed mine You are a brave man... after seeing an article about a man who had to have his finger amputated after being stabbed by a mantis due to a bacteria that didn't respond to antibiotics.... yaaaa.... scary! My guys charge the food and open up with a hard hitting thwack. Sounds like yours is laid back! 1 Quote Link to comment
stokeds Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 well its a little guy.....i guess im just lucky Quote Link to comment
FlowerMama Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I have one with 2 damsels......and i can hand feed mine Pictures!!! We want pictures!!! Or videos. 2 Quote Link to comment
dixie reefer Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Pictures or it didn't happen! 3 Quote Link to comment
stokeds Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 what being hand fed? Quote Link to comment
dixie reefer Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yep! Or a video lol. You are one brave soul. Quote Link to comment
Nocturnal Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/339657-carnival-of-fun-27g-clown-mantis-habitat/ Did somebody ask for a video? 1 Quote Link to comment
NirvanaandTool Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 You are a brave man... after seeing an article about a man who had to have his finger amputated after being stabbed by a mantis due to a bacteria that didn't respond to antibiotics.... yaaaa.... scary! My guys charge the food and open up with a hard hitting thwack. Sounds like yours is laid back! Brave indeed. I always fed mine with feeding sticks. My two fed like yours do - charge and then whack, whack, whack! I used wooden skewers and had to replace them every now and then cause they'd really beat up the tip with all that whacking. 1 Quote Link to comment
jestep Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Just saw this guy pop up and remembered seeing this thread earlier today: http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+4&ddid=214133 1 Quote Link to comment
albertthiel Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Just saw this guy pop up and remembered seeing this thread earlier today: http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+4&ddid=214133 Nice price but who really wants a damaged Peacock ? Especially the tail by which I assume they mean the Telson although they do not specify, and at that size it is not going to molt often and end up with an undamaged one .. just saying ... 1 Quote Link to comment
Tamberav Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 IDC about the damaged tail but I like small ones! They had a 2 inch peacock on DD not too long ago. I wanted it but then I'll end up turning into a crazy mantis lady.... 1 Quote Link to comment
Acielot Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 You are a brave man... after seeing an article about a man who had to have his finger amputated after being stabbed by a mantis due to a bacteria that didn't respond to antibiotics.... yaaaa.... scary! Oops. You aren't supposed to feed spearers by hand? I figured them to be safer to hand feed than smashers. It's a good way to make them not afraid of you if they know you bring food. Mine has already stopped hiding when I walk into the room Quote Link to comment
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