flypenfly Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 If an AI Sol Blue was running at 70% for blue and royal blue and 20% for white what is the 160w Razor equivalent of that tank mounted using the included arms? The Sol Blue was 4 inches off the water. Depth of the tanks are the same, 20 inches. Link to comment
Seiryoku Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I have absolutely no idea o_o Imagine that is a rather difficult question to answer as there are multiple factors involved. Honestly I'd recommend contacting the manufacturer and asking them. Link to comment
OMGSIIK Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Are you switching over to the razor from the ai? Im starting to looking at light upgrades and it's been down to ai vs maxspect. Link to comment
flypenfly Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yeah, I am. Love the AI but I would need to run two AI's versus 1 Maxspect for a 48" long system. I won't get full coverage of course but I'm not one to put clams or SPS on the edges of the aquarium either. Is there manuf produced PAR chart for the 16k 160w razor? Link to comment
CoralVue Aquarium Products Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I can't answer your question, but here is the requested PAR info: Also see: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2192708&page=2 Link to comment
flypenfly Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Aren't there three groups of LEDs? I would have though each group would yield three hot spots. Link to comment
Howard@Maxspect Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Answering your questions: If an AI Sol Blue was running at 70% for blue and royal blue and 20% for white what is the 160w Razor equivalent of that tank mounted using the included arms? The Sol Blue was 4 inches off the water. Depth of the tanks are the same, 20 inches. It'll also be around 70% on Channel B (the blue) and 20% on Channel A (the white) because the R420R also uses Cree XP-E blue and XT-E royal blue chips as well as Cree XT-E white chips, I'd expect the color to be approximately the same if the channels were set to the same intensity. Yeah, I am. Love the AI but I would need to run two AI's versus 1 Maxspect for a 48" long system. I won't get full coverage of course but I'm not one to put clams or SPS on the edges of the aquarium either. Is there manuf produced PAR chart for the 16k 160w razor? Please see the attached. Aren't there three groups of LEDs? I would have though each group would yield three hot spots. Yes there are 3 groups but they're overlapping each other in terms of coverage, so you won't see 3 hot spots but rather one single large hot spot if you'd call it this way. Assuming that you had a sol with the stock optics, it has both 70 degree and 40 degree lenses. The Maxspect razor has 90 degree lenses. The Sol is much more efficient and will penetrate deeper with less watts, but the maxspect has fuller, more even light.My AI Nano was running at about 75% overall = 26 wattsMy Razor 20" is running about 50% overall = 60 watts So, I use 2.3 times more energy with the razor (My power company thanks you maxspect) So, for the regular AI Sol at 53% overall the equivalent calc would be..53% of 75 watts = 39 watts2.30 x 39 watts = 90 watts on the maxspect (or about 56% overall of 160 watts)Blah. it's late and I think I screwed up the math but about 40% whites and 60% blue seems about right. I'd start lower and ramp up a bit because your corals are going to be shocked by the new full spectrum. Heheh I don't think you can simply add up the watts like that because in reality it doesn't work like that, the best solution is always to visit a LFS with a demo fixture mounted and check out the different settings. For my own tank (using Mazarra-P's but it's also about the same), the best color I'd get from it would be setting the white at 70% and blue at 100%, what I usually call a white:blue ratio of 2:3. Link to comment
flypenfly Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Thanks Is there anything I could do about the bowing of the mounts on a 48" tank besides doing a ceiling mount? Link to comment
Seiryoku Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Imagine that is a rather difficult question to answer as there are multiple factors involved. Honestly I'd recommend contacting the manufacturer and asking them. Told ya Link to comment
Howard@Maxspect Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 We're going to offer an optional stainless steel rail (sold separately) for users that would want to eliminate the bowing, it should be ready in late April. Thanks Is there anything I could do about the bowing of the mounts on a 48" tank besides doing a ceiling mount? Link to comment
BluCrab Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I was planning on ordering one on Apri 1st, the 160w 16000K model. We're going to offer an optional stainless steel rail (sold separately) for users that would want to eliminate the bowing, it should be ready in late April. I also have a 48 inch tank and I don't want to deal with having bowed out legs. Will the current Razors work with that rail, or should I wait to purchase it? Link to comment
flypenfly Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 THey do work but there's a slight bow even when mounted on the internal side. Link to comment
pschom Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 So just to clarify, and or confirm, is the Maxspect essentially the same fixture in terms of color as the AI SOL? At least that's what I got from the previous posts. Same LEDs, maybe different configuration and wattage. ? Link to comment
CoralVue Aquarium Products Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The AI SOL Blue uses white, blue and royal blue LEDs. The AI SOL White only uses white and blue LEDs. The Maxspect Razor uses cool white, warm white, blue, royal bule and super actinic LEDs for a full spectrum light delivery. http://maxspectusa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=21 Chris CoralVue Link to comment
eddiecorrea Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 That layout of LEDs on the Razor still doesn't provide a true full spectrum. Link to comment
CoralVue Aquarium Products Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 That layout of LEDs on the Razor still doesn't provide a true full spectrum. Please let me know what is missing? The Maxspect Razor Lighting system is designed to provide all ranges of the color spectrum required by corals and plants to enhance their growth rate, improve their coloration and at the same time giving your aquarium the most aesthetically pleasing combination of colors. Chris CoralVue Link to comment
eddiecorrea Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Unless I'm missing something I don't see any UVs, reds or greens. You have the actinics but I don't think that covers the UV. Reds and Greens are covered in the actinics but not on a very high level. Link to comment
CoralVue Aquarium Products Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Unless I'm missing something I don't see any UVs, reds or greens. You have the actinics but I don't think that covers the UV. Reds and Greens are covered in the actinics but not on a very high level. The red and green spectrum is covered by the warm white LEDs. If we allotted space for green and red LEDs on the Razor's arrays it would take spots away from the more beneficial PAR producing LEDs. Chris CoralVue Link to comment
eddiecorrea Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 White is what I meant not the actinics. Any future plans of adding a few UVs in? Link to comment
CoralVue Aquarium Products Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 White is what I meant not the actinics. Any future plans of adding a few UVs in? No, it would be a step backwards from our current layout. Chris CoralVue Link to comment
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