rb1685 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Beautiful dims. Following. Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 I am going to try really hard to document everything. I started with a biocube 14 btw RB1685. Humble beginnings lol. Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ok so this tank only has 2 holes (the one downside to getting a tank that was already made). I don't like the idea of a single drain. I have never used a durso standpipe, I have always used herbies. If a durso becomes partially blocked, lets say 5%, will it overflow. Are durso's 100% full like a herbie main overflow or is their room for more water if for some reason the pump speeds up or the drain partially clogs? I am going to have a pretty low amount of turnover into the sump and its a 1.5" drain so its plenty big to accommodate a lot of water, I am just wondering the safety of dursos. I can accept if something catastrophic happens like a full clog that it will overflow, I can stomach that, but not if a tiny little clog would cause an overflow. I know with my herbie I have had at least 3 times my backup was needed, but of course with herbies the main is already at 100%. Thanks for any info. Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I love the dimensions of this tank so much. following along... Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wow. I'm kinda amazed at the reaction. I thought these dimensions were kinda out there, glad to see people like them, I have always been a fan of horizontal deep tanks, but not full cubes =) Anyone have any input on my standpipe question. Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Still looking for some opinions on my overflow question. Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 Starting on the stand this weekend, will post lots of pictures. If someone could respond about this I would appreciate it: Ok so this tank only has 2 holes (the one downside to getting a tank that was already made). I don't like the idea of a single drain. I have never used a durso standpipe, I have always used herbies. If a durso becomes partially blocked, lets say 5%, will it overflow. Are durso's 100% full like a herbie main overflow or is their room for more water if for some reason the pump speeds up or the drain partially clogs? I am going to have a pretty low amount of turnover into the sump and its a 1.5" drain so its plenty big to accommodate a lot of water, I am just wondering the safety of dursos. I can accept if something catastrophic happens like a full clog that it will overflow, I can stomach that, but not if a tiny little clog would cause an overflow. I know with my herbie I have had at least 3 times my backup was needed, but of course with herbies the main is already at 100%. Thanks for any info. Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Moving stand concept here. 1 Link to comment
JDigital Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Herbies technically are not 100% full. You are always going to have them dialed back with a gate valve, so while they are generally underwater completely in your overflow box, they aren't draining at the full capacity of a of your standpipe diameter (1" for example) because you're dialed back. I've always followed a general guideline with Herbie overflows. If my main is 1", my emergency is 1", never less. That way if my main gets COMPLETELY clogged, my emergency will have no issues handling ALL of the flow as there is no valves on that line so hinder the flow of water. I also reduce the number of 45/90' elbows on the emergency to less than what my main drain has (which I also try to keep at a minimum). All of this will always allow your system to keep draining without ever overflowing. Unless by some massive issue the emergency gets blocked up as well, but if that happens you'll probably be SOL anyways unless you setup a secondary fail safe should that ever happen. Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Here is the scape with all the carnage created in front of it! Also, I still am wanting an answer to my overflow questions if anyone has any input! TY. Front Front Right Right Side Front Left Left Side Top Down 1 Link to comment
JDigital Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Why don't you just run a herbie... use your smaller hole for the Main, and your emergency on the 1.5". I can't comment on Durso's as I've never used them, nor will I. Link to comment
CBernhardt23 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Here is the scape with all the carnage created in front of it! Also, I still am wanting an answer to my overflow questions if anyone has any input! TY. Front Front Right Right Side Front Left Left Side Top Down Geee, fill that thing already! lol. JK.. Looks good, love the dimensions! Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Why don't you just run a herbie... use your smaller hole for the Main, and your emergency on the 1.5". I can't comment on Durso's as I've never used them, nor will I. You make a decent point. I was going to have the tank really close to the wall so I didn't want to run pipe behind it. I also don't want anything coming in over the top of the tank (i.e) the return lines. If this tank was made specifically for me I would have done 3 holes, but that's what I get for like 50% off I may go ahead and do that. This tank is going to have a mesh top so I will just make the top with a notch in it to run the locline into the tank. Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Alright, feedback on this: I will do a herbie drain using the 1" hole as the main, and the 1.5" hole as the backup. I don't push a lot of water through my sump usually anyways, so I am looking at having ~500-600gph turnover rate. The return will be a single 3/4" pipe run up the back of the tank and in over the top with locline 3/4" to a 1/2" wye giving me a little more variable flow with the return. This tank will have a top screen top so I will design it to have a small notch in it for the return locline that comes over the rim of the tank. 1 Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Stand frame complete. Skinning tomorrow. So it begins... Bottom frame together, top cut. Top frame now together and braced, inside legs cut and ready. Front fully framed and ready for skin Another view And Another. Yes, I know it is over built. 2" x 4" x 8' = $2.88, Being able to sleep at night, priceless. 1 Link to comment
uglyfish Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Looks goos and strong for sure. Are you putting feet on it to level it? Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Its being considered. Any links to the type of feet you would suggest? It sits level as is but I'm considering adding feed Link to comment
heifinator Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Starting to skin now, will post pictures later today! Link to comment
Cintax Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Miracles sure did an amazing job on that tank! Link to comment
creefer Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I went back and forward on dimensions. I want something that didn't look like a painting but was easy to maintain. Thought about cubes at first but they are hard to clean, then I was thinking 30x30x18 but that was to big. Found a balance. Plus with 40x24 I think I have enough swimming room for my lyretails that I really want! I would have to agree. Beautiful set up and great work on the stand. Link to comment
heifinator Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Here is my light layout. I already have a bunch of 1 emitter cree lights I will be using, so no 3ups for me except the OCW. This will be 32RB 18NW 14TV 6OCW Running on 5 inventronics 40w @ 700mah drivers with 5 pot dimmers in a project box enclosure. will build on a makers heatsink @ 24" This will sit fairly high above the tank to give good coverage. Input wanted! NW = Black RB = Blue TV = Purple OCW = Red 1 Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Looks good. The only things I might change is to think about the 430 nm deep blue LEDs that should be coming out soon from LEDgroupbuy. 430nm light is more usable for corals than royal blues so consider dropping some royal blues for some 430s. You have a great plan even without them though. Link to comment
heifinator Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 Looks good. The only things I might change is to think about the 430 nm deep blue LEDs that should be coming out soon from LEDgroupbuy. 430nm light is more usable for corals than royal blues so consider dropping some royal blues for some 430s. You have a great plan even without them though. I already own a good portion of the lights. I am adding 8 RB to my currently owned 24, I may get 8 of the new 430nm instead. 1 Link to comment
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