gabe_j Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 here's sample shot of a custom built light for a 18x18x18 cube tank i recently built. the tank pictured isn't the final home just my testing pico cube. the final mix is; 12rb 6cw 4 cyan 2 red 2 cb 4tv DIM4 controller PAR is 400+ at 12" deep and 12 over the water surface. its very unlikely that this system will never get pushed to full power. Set to fade up a very natural looking sunrise sunset starting at 6am to midnight it sounds like a vary long light cycle but when you see it, its very natural looking and the first and last 3 hours are such a low output fade it looks great. but enough talking. here's the pic. it was taken with a samsung galaxy s2 not my 60D so the colors aren't perfect but you get the idea. -Gabe Link to comment
Adrnalnrsh Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I am considering the following design on a 20Lx15Wx20H 12" makers heatsink, two pods roughly 6 inches apart Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 -Gabe Im jealous I am considering the following design on a 20Lx15Wx20H 12" makers heatsink, two pods roughly 6 inches apart Thats going to be alot of light but it looks like a nice clean build/pods. You may end up needing to run your 3UPs closer to 500mA because of how much light they are going to output. Up side, they will run very cool and last a long time. Link to comment
Adrnalnrsh Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Im jealous Thats going to be alot of light but it looks like a nice clean build/pods. You may end up needing to run your 3UPs closer to 500mA because of how much light they are going to output. Up side, they will run very cool and last a long time. The next question is, how many drivers and driver channels do I need and at what mA? Could I run the whites of the 3ups and the blues of the 3ups on two separate inventronics-40w-driver-700ma @ 500mA? and one inventronics-40w-driver-700ma running both 3ups and the 4 TVs? @ 500mA? Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 The next question is, how many drivers and driver channels do I need and at what mA? Could I run the whites of the 3ups and the blues of the 3ups on two separate inventronics-40w-driver-700ma @ 500mA? and one inventronics-40w-driver-700ma running both 3ups and the 4 TVs? @ 500mA? 8 whites on 40w 700mA 16 RB on 40w 700mA TVs and OCW on 40w 700mA driver (dimed back to 500mA or lower) Link to comment
Adrnalnrsh Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 8 whites on 40w 700mA16 RB on 40w 700mA TVs and OCW on 40w 700mA driver (dimed back to 500mA or lower) If I ever got a bigger tank, I would assume I could upgrade the drivers for the 3ups to 1100/1300mA? Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 If I ever got a bigger tank, I would assume I could upgrade the drivers for the 3ups to 1100/1300mA? Correct. Link to comment
mpb524 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Im getting ready to switch my JBJ NC24 to a 20 Long. I would like to build a LED light, and have researched, but I cant seem to find a general formation for "long tanks". What is recommended and how many LEDs? Clustering for "long" tank or straight rows? I was gonna use the 3-ups,OCWs, and TV... Was thinking 6 3-ups, 3 ocw and 3 TVs clustered in 3 groups spread out over the tank... Link to comment
Adrnalnrsh Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Im getting ready to switch my JBJ NC24 to a 20 Long. I would like to build a LED light, and have researched, but I cant seem to find a general formation for "long tanks". What is recommended and how many LEDs? Clustering for "long" tank or straight rows? I was gonna use the 3-ups,OCWs, and TV... Was thinking 6 3-ups, 3 ocw and 3 TVs clustered in 3 groups spread out over the tank... My theory is pods of led's provide better light blending and running one pod for X # of inches. So in my case I am using two pods to go 20 inches. So I would add a pod per X inches depending on the size of the pod. Link to comment
wrx1908 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Hey milad do you sell optics that fit aquastyle leds looking for 80deg thanks Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted June 1, 2012 Author Share Posted June 1, 2012 Im getting ready to switch my JBJ NC24 to a 20 Long. I would like to build a LED light, and have researched, but I cant seem to find a general formation for "long tanks". What is recommended and how many LEDs? Clustering for "long" tank or straight rows? I was gonna use the 3-ups,OCWs, and TV... Was thinking 6 3-ups, 3 ocw and 3 TVs clustered in 3 groups spread out over the tank... Basic rule of thumb is about 15-20 square inches of surface area per CREE XP LED. And then you just put the LEDs in pods of all the different colors and spread the pods out across a heatsink. Hey milad do you sell optics that fit aquastyle leds looking for 80deg thanks Nope we do not. All our Exotics have integrated optics. Our CREEs use standard CREE optics. Link to comment
wrx1908 Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Basic rule of thumb is about 15-20 square inches of surface area per CREE XP LED. And then you just put the LEDs in pods of all the different colors and spread the pods out across a heatsink. Nope we do not. All our Exotics have integrated optics. Our CREEs use standard CREE optics. Will the 80 deg be worth it over the regular leds optic thanks for the help Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Will the 80 deg be worth it over the regular leds optic thanks for the help What is a "regular" LED optic? Link to comment
wrx1908 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 What is a "regular" LED optic? I think the LEDs come with 120 is 80 a bit better for a mix reef Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I think the LEDs come with 120 is 80 a bit better for a mix reef I don't think you know what optics actually do. Optics focus the light from the 120-140 degree cone from the LED diode. If you have your light panel sitting 8" above your tank, if you use no optics, you'll be spilling a significant portion of your light outside of your tank, and it is wasted. In that case, adding 60-80 degree optics would keep light spill to a minimum, and will also increase PAR ratings inside the tank because the light is focused on a smaller total area. Don't use too tight of optics, though, as you will create "disco" from the different colors not mixing well. Link to comment
wrx1908 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I don't think you know what optics actually do. Optics focus the light from the 120-140 degree cone from the LED diode. If you have your light panel sitting 8" above your tank, if you use no optics, you'll be spilling a significant portion of your light outside of your tank, and it is wasted. In that case, adding 60-80 degree optics would keep light spill to a minimum, and will also increase PAR ratings inside the tank because the light is focused on a smaller total area. Don't use too tight of optics, though, as you will create "disco" from the different colors not mixing well. I will get the 80 to keep light spill to a min thanks Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 I will get the 80 to keep light spill to a min thanks How high will they be hung over the tank? 80 may be too much or too little. Link to comment
wrx1908 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 How high will they be hung over the tank? 80 may be too much or too little. They are 8in off the water and the tank is a 40B oh tanks for all your help Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 They are 8in off the water and the tank is a 40B oh tanks for all your help Yep, at least 80 degree optics. I had 60 degree optics on my old arrangement that was about 8" off the tank that was 48x12x21, and the optics were way too tight, made a lot of disco. Link to comment
OneTrickPony Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 A quick question on LED drivers Whats the difference in electricity usage between running the same amount of LEDs @ 500ma at 100% vs 1000ma at 50% Thanks Link to comment
jedimasterben Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 A quick question on LED driversWhats the difference in electricity usage between running the same amount of LEDs @ 500ma at 100% vs 1000ma at 50% Thanks Nothing. You'd have slight differences because of efficiency, but essentially the same. Link to comment
chrssprngs Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Not excited anymore. Just read on LED Groupbuy new ship date of June 8. Now June 11 Link to comment
Milad LEDGroupBuy.com Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Now June 11 The pre orders still might go out Friday. We are going to ship them as the orders came in. So if you were the first to make the order, you get yours first. We are cutting it close for Friday and we may be packing/shipping up until the last minute. If we don't get everything on Friday afternoon then most likley everything will be out Monday/Tuesday. Link to comment
Mr. Microscope Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 6 NW 4 CW 4 TV 2 660 Red 4 CB 8 RB 'Thinking about adding a cyan/turquoise just to see what kinda oranges/red get boosted. Also seriously considering some ocean whites (maybe split up to drive by individual color). Link to comment
Singlefin Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The pre orders still might go out Friday. We are going to ship them as the orders came in. So if you were the first to make the order, you get yours first. We are cutting it close for Friday and we may be packing/shipping up until the last minute. If we don't get everything on Friday afternoon then most likley everything will be out Monday/Tuesday. Understandable for a brand new product from a new company. I would rather you take the extra day to make sure to order is right, then rush the shipment and be missing parts. Thanks. I think I need to add a potentiometer. Not sure if we cleared that up. Link to comment
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