New fishes going into my QT :)

[thecloser]

I currently have a Clownfish in my QT and I am on the verge of completing my "blue print" on what I want in my 20 Long tank.

 

Probably within this coming week I am giogn to go buy my next 2 fish and put them in the QT with my Clown for about 3 weeks before they go into my DT.

 

My QT is a 10 Gallon.

 

I am thinking of these, let me know if they will A) work and if you have any other recommendations.

 

I am looking for active fish, pretty good in size and colorful.

 

1) My clown Fish about 1.75"

2) Gold Stripe Maroon Clown

3) Cherub AngelFish - I really want an Angel fish that is compatible with my corals (shroom, zoa, frog/torch, Blasto) so I think the one I can put in that would be safe is the Cherub Angel Fish. I am not too fond of the color as it seems dark and blahhed out but I hear I can't keep a BiColor, Herald, Lemon, or Coral Beauty so I think this is my only choice.

 

Can't decide on my 4th fish...either A) SixLine great moving fish but not too colorful "bright* Royal Gamam C) Any more ideas?

[ry05coupe]

wha type of clown do you already have? If it isnt a maroon clown you cant add one. Different types of clowns will fight, and maroons get big & mean

[thecloser]

ahh, really? its a regular clown, not a maroon.

 

I LOVED its color and size. Is there anything in that ball park

[limblesscat]

I may be wrong, but it seems like you are planning on adding things a little too fast. I assume your tank is new. Also, maroon clownfish are a tad bit aggressive as far as I understand, and mixing different types of clownfish seems like a recipe for trouble. I'd encourage you to do more research on pairing varying types of clownfish, and be certain that your tank is ready to accept an exponentially greater bioload.

 

A thread that seems to be fairly well researched/presented, scroll down to the entry for maroon clownfish:

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/lofiversio...hp/t108767.html

 

Another thread that might help you with your decision:

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/lofiversio...hp/t120200.html

 

Hope that was a little helpful. Good luck!

 

 

 

I currently have a Clownfish in my QT and I am on the verge of completing my "blue print" on what I want in my 20 Long tank.

 

Probably within this coming week I am giogn to go buy my next 2 fish and put them in the QT with my Clown for about 3 weeks before they go into my DT.

 

My QT is a 10 Gallon.

 

I am thinking of these, let me know if they will A) work and if you have any other recommendations.

 

I am looking for active fish, pretty good in size and colorful.

 

1) My clown Fish about 1.75"

2) Gold Stripe Maroon Clown

3) Cherub AngelFish - I really want an Angel fish that is compatible with my corals (shroom, zoa, frog/torch, Blasto) so I think the one I can put in that would be safe is the Cherub Angel Fish. I am not too fond of the color as it seems dark and blahhed out but I hear I can't keep a BiColor, Herald, Lemon, or Coral Beauty so I think this is my only choice.

 

Can't decide on my 4th fish...either A) SixLine great moving fish but not too colorful "bright* Royal Gamam C) Any more ideas?

[thecloser]

my tank is about 3 months old, FULL of pods everywhere (can't wait til my fish eat them)

 

thanks for the links

[altolamprologus]

my tank is about 3 months old, FULL of pods everywhere (can't wait til my fish eat them)

 

thanks for the links

Gold stripe maroons are mean as hell and get way too big for your tank (not to mention it will kill your current clown). If you want another clown, stick with the same species. You said yours is a "normal" clown, but there isn't a species called a normal clown. The two most common "nemo-like" clowns are occelaris and percula, but you probably have an occelaris.

[thecloser]

Gold stripe maroons are mean as hell and get way too big for your tank (not to mention it will kill your current clown). If you want another clown, stick with the same species. You said yours is a "normal" clown, but there isn't a species called a normal clown. The two most common "nemo-like" clowns are occelaris and percula, but you probably have an occelaris.

 

really? -__- such a pretty fish though.

 

what about a Percula ?

Yes, the Occelaris. I said normal because I was vaguely answering his question whether it is a maroon or not.

[altolamprologus]

really? -__- such a pretty fish though.

 

what about a Percula ?

Yes, the Occelaris. I said normal because I was vaguely answering his question whether it is a maroon or not.

Perculas and occelaris have been know to pair quite easily and it shouldn't a problem.

[thecloser]

anyone have comments on the other stuff mentioned in my post such as recommendations?

[altolamprologus]

anyone have comments on the other stuff mentioned in my post such as recommendations?

A royal gramma would be a good addition and should get along with the other fish. Firefish are pretty colorful and usually stay out all the time. That's all I can think of right now...

[thecloser]

A royal gramma would be a good addition and should get along with the other fish. Firefish are pretty colorful and usually stay out all the time. That's all I can think of right now...

 

How are Cherub angelfish?

and is the Royal Gamma an active fish? On youtube I see them only standing in one spot like a Goby would but obviously swimming in 1 place and not on a rock.

[altolamprologus]

How are Cherub angelfish?

and is the Royal Gamma an active fish? On youtube I see them only standing in one spot like a Goby would but obviously swimming in 1 place and not on a rock.

Royal Grammas do tend to hover in one place but really fast swimmers if they get spooked or food is in the water!

 

A Cherub angelfish will be fine with the others, but dwarf angels have a tendency to nip at corals.

[thecloser]

Royal Grammas do tend to hover in one place but really fast swimmers if they get spooked or food is in the water!

 

A Cherub angelfish will be fine with the others, but dwarf angels have a tendency to nip at corals.

 

 

is the BiColor really that bad with Corals? Or even the Lemon/Herald fish? It is as close to a Tang I can get in terms of yellow color and size.

[altolamprologus]

A bicolor would get too big for a 20 gallon. I've never heard of a lemon fish. Do you mean lemon peel angel?

[thecloser]

A bicolor would get too big for a 20 gallon. I've never heard of a lemon fish. Do you mean lemon peel angel?

 

yes lemon peel, i kept it short bc I was on with my phone.

[altolamprologus]

yes lemon peel, i kept it short bc I was on with my phone.

They may nip at corals too. Pretty much every dwarf angelfish has a reputation for being a coral-eater, but some individuals never do. It's a gamble whether or not you get one that will.

[metrokat]

wrasse are active fish, and colorful

[FlCandy]

Add them slow when you do get them, about a week to 2 weeks in between fish added to the DT or you are going to have another cycle hit the tank and kill everything.

 

Remember you are depending on the Bacteria in the DT to keep the Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrate down and need to let it catch up/adjust to new fish in the tank.

 

I would only add 1-2 SMALL fish at a time to that tank JIC as I wouldn't want to have another cycle start.

[thecloser]

Add them slow when you do get them, about a week to 2 weeks in between fish added to the DT or you are going to have another cycle hit the tank and kill everything.

 

Remember you are depending on the Bacteria in the DT to keep the Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrate down and need to let it catch up/adjust to new fish in the tank.

 

I would only add 1-2 SMALL fish at a time to that tank JIC as I wouldn't want to have another cycle start.

 

I'll probably add the current clown in 3 weeks while the 2 new ones sit in the QT for 3 weeks and 1 of them for 2 weeks.

[FlCandy]

I'll probably add the current clown in 3 weeks while the 2 new ones sit in the QT for 3 weeks and 1 of them for 2 weeks.

 

I don't think you should QT them all together like that, you won't be giving enough time for ALL of the fish in QT to show signs of disease.

 

(Seems like you will be buying them and adding them to QT at different times)

 

#1. QT the clowns, then add them to tank, #2. clean QT then QT new fish.

 

The whole point of QT it to keep them separate from the other fish long enough for you to be sure they are free of Disease and pests. Putting the clowns in there and waiting 2 weeks adding the new fish to QT waiting a week then adding clowns to tank is just going to expose them to whatever the new fish has.

 

Only buy what you are going to add to the tank, you don't need to buy all your fish right away, you can buy them 1-2 at a time and wait for them to QT then add to tank and get new fish for the QT after you are sure it is clean and ready to go.

 

Sorry you are on the right path and kudos on the QT but you need to do the process right, look up the QT process. Adding new fish i right before you move the fish you are finishing QT on is like re-exposing them after waiting 3 weeks.

[thecloser]

I don't think you should QT them all together like that, you won't be giving enough time for ALL of the fish in QT to show signs of disease.

 

(Seems like you will be buying them and adding them to QT at different times)

 

#1. QT the clowns, then add them to tank, #2. clean QT then QT new fish.

 

The whole point of QT it to keep them separate from the other fish long enough for you to be sure they are free of Disease and pests. Putting the clowns in there and waiting 2 weeks adding the new fish to QT waiting a week then adding clowns to tank is just going to expose them to whatever the new fish has.

 

Only buy what you are going to add to the tank, you don't need to buy all your fish right away, you can buy them 1-2 at a time and wait for them to QT then add to tank and get new fish for the QT after you are sure it is clean and ready to go.

 

Sorry you are on the right path and kudos on the QT but you need to do the process right, look up the QT process. Adding new fish i right before you move the fish you are finishing QT on is like re-exposing them after waiting 3 weeks.

 

I have a clown in the QT already by itself, in about 3 weeks he will enter the DT.

 

Than I am thinking of buying 2 fishes and putting them together in the QT, reason is because the fish store I have to buy it from is nearly 40 miles away so I'd like to make at least 2 purchases on that 1 drive.

 

I have seen many people have 2 fishes in a QT, i thnk it should be safe, don't' you thinK?

[FlCandy]

I have a clown in the QT already by itself, in about 3 weeks he will enter the DT.

 

Than I am thinking of buying 2 fishes and putting them together in the QT, reason is because the fish store I have to buy it from is nearly 40 miles away so I'd like to make at least 2 purchases on that 1 drive.

 

I have seen many people have 2 fishes in a QT, i thnk it should be safe, don't' you thinK?

 

Yes that is fine, the way you said it was like you were going to buy all the fish at once and put a few in at a time after 2-3 week difference. That's fine, usually you want to add the clowns at the same time but you could be okay with a Larger clown (from same species) so they don't fight so much.

 

You got it right just wanted to make sure you weren't re-exposing your fish to disease after the QT period that's all.

[thecloser]

Yes that is fine, the way you said it was like you were going to buy all the fish at once and put a few in at a time after 2-3 week difference. That's fine, usually you want to add the clowns at the same time but you could be okay with a Larger clown (from same species) so they don't fight so much.

 

You got it right just wanted to make sure you weren't re-exposing your fish to disease after the QT period that's all.

 

Yeah, I made it sound confusing loll.

 

I really can't keep a Maroon with my Oc? the Oc. Clown is very small compared to the maroon clown.

Can the Small clown attack the Maroon? even though the size is 2-3 times in difference? I had my friends Maroon in my tank once and the next morning it had a tear on its bottom fin and not sure if it was like that or my clown did it to him.

 

One problem is this, my Oc. Clown was with a fish that had Ich and died but my clown didn't' show signs of it or anything so that is why he is in the QT. I am not sure if I should treat this clown to be safe or not because the 3 weeks he's been in QT he has looked normal and ich-less but still scared and i don't want to put him through copper or hypo for no reason.

[FlCandy]

Yeah, I made it sound confusing loll.

 

I really can't keep a Maroon with my Oc? the Oc. Clown is very small compared to the maroon clown.

Can the Small clown attack the Maroon? even though the size is 2-3 times in difference? I had my friends Maroon in my tank once and the next morning it had a tear on its bottom fin and not sure if it was like that or my clown did it to him.

 

One problem is this, my Oc. Clown was with a fish that had Ich and died but my clown didn't' show signs of it or anything so that is why he is in the QT. I am not sure if I should treat this clown to be safe or not because the 3 weeks he's been in QT he has looked normal and ich-less but still scared and i don't want to put him through copper or hypo for no reason.

 

The Maroon will attack the other clown, they are big and aggressive.

 

I would run it 6-8 weeks empty of fish JIC.

[altolamprologus]

Yeah, I made it sound confusing loll.

 

I really can't keep a Maroon with my Oc? the Oc. Clown is very small compared to the maroon clown.

Can the Small clown attack the Maroon? even though the size is 2-3 times in difference? I had my friends Maroon in my tank once and the next morning it had a tear on its bottom fin and not sure if it was like that or my clown did it to him.

 

One problem is this, my Oc. Clown was with a fish that had Ich and died but my clown didn't' show signs of it or anything so that is why he is in the QT. I am not sure if I should treat this clown to be safe or not because the 3 weeks he's been in QT he has looked normal and ich-less but still scared and i don't want to put him through copper or hypo for no reason.

You really can't keep the maroon with your occy. They are so incredibly agressive to other clowns that many times when people try to pair maroons, one of the clowns ends up dead.

 

Don't treat your clown with any medicine unless he shows signs of ich. In a bare QT tank, the ich has almost nowhere to go for the tomont stage of it's lifecycle so if there it will show because it has no place to "hide" and lay in wait. Leave your DT without fish for 6-8 weeks as already stated or you could risk re-infection. You can dose a couple drops a day of garlic extract if you want. A chemical in it is known to inhibit enzymes in the parasite and therefore kill it. Even if you do this, I would still leave the tank fishless for at least 6 weeks.