clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ok I can do that. Can I get away with an air pump/stone? How Long will He be in there for? How will I treated him? What about my Display tank? Link to comment
Mini-Dude Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The fish will be in the qt or 6 to 8 weeks. You dose them with a copper substance that I dint know the name of. Don't worry about your display it will run it's corse in 6 to 8 weeks. Link to comment
paneubert Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ok I can do that. Can I get away with an air pump/stone?How Long will He be in there for? How will I treated him? What about my Display tank? I would say yes on the airstone. Would move enough for the fish. Fish are more forgiving with flow than corals. 6-8 weeks Use Cupramine, made by Seachem Leave the display how it is. Same lights, same heat, same salinity, same flow. Treat it just like it is normal. Just have NO FISH IN THERE for 6-8 weeks so the ich dies. Link to comment
northstar1357 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Google "cryptocaryon Irritans". It's a parasite which affects marine fish. In many cases it ends up being fatal and it's highly contagious. The only 2 100% surefire treatment methods are copper medications (copper sulfate/cupramine are popular) and hyposalinity (around 1.010 S.G.). Neither of those can be used in a reef tank though without killing stuff. First, I would confirm what the fish has. If all the symptoms match ich and if you have a hospital tank, I would remove the damsel immediately and start treatment. I would also carefully observe the clownfish. If you're not sure of the diagnosis, continue to carefully observe both fish. Now would not be a good time to consider adding new fish. Totally agreed, i had this experience with most of my fish purchased from my LFS. probably something in their water. treated with copper. Link to comment
Mini-Dude Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Totally agreed, i had this experience with most of my fish purchased from my LFS. probably something in their water. treated with copper. That's why you always need a qt tank to put things in before they go into your tank. Link to comment
ajmckay Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 A clean 5 gallon bucket works good for QT. Just make sure it hasn't been used for any nasty chemicals. Don't buy a cleaner wrasse... That's horrible advice. First, they serve a useful function on natural reefs and by removing so many from the wild (they're almost all wild caught) we're screwing over the natural reefs. Next, there's no guarantee that they will provide the cleaning functions in an aquarium. Many of them don't because they eat when all the other fish eat. Fish aren't so stupid that they'll pass up a free meal. Finally, as panu said, they are not effective against the crypto parasite. If anything they can only be effective during 1 stage of the parasites life cycle, which isn't enough to do anything. If you don't have the cash to set up a QT I still wouldn't kill the fish. Damsels are very hardy and I've known some of them to overcome. What you can do is perform a hyposalinity treatment in the display tank. Drop your salinity to around 1.009 - 1.010 over a day or so. Leave it like that for at least 20 days (longer if the fish don't seem to be too stressed). Be sure to observe the fish carefully as this can be stressful to them. Take your inverts and corals to the LFS as they won't survive the treatment. Also, while this shouldn't kill off your biological filtration, it may reduce it's capacity. Be sure to test your water frequently for ammonia and as necessary perform large water changes if you detect any. When you do the changes, be sure to match the S.G. Link to comment
clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I have a clean bucket I'll use. Can I proform hyposaltny in my QT? How can I safely get rid of my ick in my display Tank? What about fish meds? Link to comment
paneubert Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Have you read any of the things I have posted? I am not going to tell you the same thing 3 times in less than half an hour. Go back and read this thread from the beginning. Link to comment
holdorf333 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Yes you can drop salinity in that QT. The answer on how to get rid of the ich in the display was already answered in this thread. No meds unless it's really bad, like the fish looks like it's been rolled in sugar. http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showforum=7 READREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREAD READREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADR EADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADRE ADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREAD Link to comment
clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 My bad I totally forgot you posted that.. Sorry about all the trouble just really stressed my fish are gunna die. Thanks for all the help Link to comment
clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 I did my research.. And my fish only has white spots on his fins, the top And tail one. So idk if it's even ich.. Link to comment
ajmckay Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 They don't have to die... There are effective treatments! All you need to do is decide which treatment to use and then start it ASAP. Don't try to confuse yourself with too many treatments. It sounds like hyposalinity is your best bet (copper meds are expensive ~ $10 for a bottle). But hypo requires more time and effort. Note that copper and hypo should not be used at the same time. Link to comment
RK_tek Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showforum=7[/url]READREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREAD READREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREAD R EADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADR E ADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREADREAD THIS Link to comment
rO.oster Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 17 minutes later he did his research LOL Link to comment
clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 thats the best pic i could get.. its on his top fin and tail fin. there isnt any arounf his gills though.. i just wanna double check its ich before i get a QT and all that good stuff Link to comment
Mini-Dude Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 nice fish! But definitely looks like ick Link to comment
clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 thanks ok i just wanted to double check before i went to go buy stufff for my QT. ahhhh this sucks which stage would you say its in? do you think its spread to my whole tank yet? Link to comment
Mini-Dude Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Umm yeah I know it sucks. I've lost a couple of fish to FW ick. I would say its in stage one. If you hurry and get your qt tank you might be able to stop it from advancing. Link to comment
clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 my clown shows no signs of ick so i think its not spreading? what do you think? how long should i wait until i add more fish? Link to comment
paneubert Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 6 to 8 freakin' weeks!!!!!!! Treat all your fish!!!!!! Did you read anything anyone posted.............? I am about to just stop reading this thread..... Link to comment
Mini-Dude Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Umm I still think you should get the qt. Dont! Please dont add anymore fish and have them get infected. It is spreading but in the early phases it does not show up on the body of the fish. Link to comment
Mini-Dude Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 6 to 8 freakin' weeks!!!!!!!Treat all your fish!!!!!! Did you read anything anyone posted.............? I am about to just stop reading this thread..... THIS!!!! Link to comment
clowe18 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 alright thanks mini dude! Link to comment
Mini-Dude Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Your welcome and please be nice to the other people she was only trying to help. Link to comment
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