Euphyllia Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Which do you think is better, the 29 Gallon BioCube HQI or the 28 Gallon NanoCube LED? Those are the two I'm deciding between. I want an AIO tank. Link to comment
urbaneks Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Which do you think is better, the 29 Gallon BioCube HQI or the 28 Gallon NanoCube LED?Those are the two I'm deciding between. I want an AIO tank. One year and counting and I still love my Nano Cube. Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 One year and counting and I still love my Nano Cube. Thanks for your input. I'm leaning more towards the NanoCube. Are there any people that like their BioCube HQI? (The HQI is different from the regular BioCube) Link to comment
almost Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 led why even consider mh on a little tank with all the heat and power uptake and $20-80 a year to replace the bulb, leds are cooler fit in hood less $$ to up keep and grows sps as well (thats debatable but there close) Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 led why even consider mh on a little tank with all the heat and power uptake and $20-80 a year to replace the bulb, leds are cooler fit in hood less $$ to up keep and grows sps as well (thats debatable but there close) Well I guess that wins me over to the NanoCube side... I suppose I can scrounge up some extra money for picassos. Link to comment
sirbiggstixx Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Which do you think is better, the 29 Gallon BioCube HQI or the 28 Gallon NanoCube LED?Those are the two I'm deciding between. I want an AIO tank. ok imho..i would pick the hqi(it requires you to not need actinics but can always add anything). Supposedly LEDS are still a little behind the reef technology..Again just what i have overheard with very serious reefers talking..Halides are just better at growing corals..Regardless what some people try and say..I know LEDS work and work well..But halides just plain as day grow better coral..It grows super bright colors and you get awesome growth..i dont have a biocube hqi..but i do have a sunpod hqi with moonlight leds and absolutely love it.. some people swear by LEDS and i know they grow good coral..But it doesnt grow it as fast as halides do...A bunch of my friends switched to LEDS and they cant stand them now, they wish they never switched from halides..i hope this helps just my $.02!! Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 ok imho..i would pick the hqi(it requires you to not need actinics but can always add anything). Supposedly LEDS are still a little behind the reef technology..Again just what i have overheard with very serious reefers talking..Halides are just better at growing corals..Regardless what some people try and say..I know LEDS work and work well..But halides just plain as day grow better coral..It grows super bright colors and you get awesome growth..i dont have a biocube hqi..but i do have a sunpod hqi with moonlight leds and absolutely love it.. some people swear by LEDS and i know they grow good coral..But it doesnt grow it as fast as halides do...A bunch of my friends switched to LEDS and they cant stand them now, they wish they never switched from halides..i hope this helps just my $.02!! Thanks for your input! You've pulled me back to the BioCube side. Anyone want to counter-argue what sirbiggstixx said? Link to comment
JoeyG40c Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yeah man I will jump on this horse. Regular Biocube kicks the a## out of both MH and LED. Thats right...Haters Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yeah man I will jump on this horse. Regular Biocube kicks the a## out of both MH and LED. Thats right...Haters No it doesn't. Link to comment
Captain Billy Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Any type of tank with MH will grow better. Link to comment
clownfish14 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 ok imho..i would pick the hqi(it requires you to not need actinics but can always add anything). Supposedly LEDS are still a little behind the reef technology..Again just what i have overheard with very serious reefers talking..Halides are just better at growing corals..Regardless what some people try and say..I know LEDS work and work well..But halides just plain as day grow better coral..It grows super bright colors and you get awesome growth..i dont have a biocube hqi..but i do have a sunpod hqi with moonlight leds and absolutely love it.. some people swear by LEDS and i know they grow good coral..But it doesnt grow it as fast as halides do...A bunch of my friends switched to LEDS and they cant stand them now, they wish they never switched from halides..i hope this helps just my $.02!! the leds on my tank are the exact opposite of what you are saying the added more color and the corals grew more. pluss they are less expensive in the long run. to the OP i say go with the nano cube for a couple of reasons first you save money no new bulbs and you save a ton of money on your electricity bill. and the second reason is heat i have a nano cube hqi ( my dad has the tank with the LEDs although i take care of it) and i have alwayse had a problem with heat. so your best bet if you want the least expensive and least problemsome tank spen the little extra money and go with the nano cube. trust me in a year you will be thanking me. Any type of tank with MH will grow better. but wont look as good Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 the leds on my tank are the exact opposite of what you are saying the added more color and the corals grew more. pluss they are less expensive in the long run. to the OP i say go with the nano cube for a couple of reasons first you save money no new bulbs and you save a ton of money on your electricity bill. and the second reason is heat i have a nano cube hqi ( my dad has the tank with the LEDs although i take care of it) and i have alwayse had a problem with heat. so your best bet if you want the least expensive and least problemsome tank spen the little extra money and go with the nano cube. trust me in a year you will be thanking me. but wont look as good The LEDs in the NanoCube are more white than blue, and I've seen the tanks together (side by side) with corals and they were about the same. Nothing special about the color of the NanoCube's corals. Link to comment
Llamaguy Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Get a regular Biocube and then upgrade the hood to better LEDS Link to comment
Quokka Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 ...this username angers me... hahaha jk sorry i had to say it when i saw it Link to comment
gulfsurfer101 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Noobs, noobs, noobs, you would like a couple of young wood peckers pecking at a tree, (beach no birch, no beach) let old grampa woodpecker take his his dang old pecker to this tree and peck away at it. He'll tell you that the tree is one of the best peices of ash out there fellows. So here's my opinion, go with the leds as I have tried all lightin options and am most impressed with leds. You won't be looking for super growth rates here in a tank of this size as opposed to color, pop, and effenciency. The benifits of leds have been laid out before you already vs growth. So what. What are you going to do when your tank outgrows itself in a matter of months, drop a grand on a bigger system, not too smart. If your into aio's you chould check out the finnex M tanks like the one I am using. It is the best of the aio's I have run. The lighting is perfect also with a MH/T5 combo that is hard to argue with. I'm still dreaming of upgrading to a custom led fixture, just putting change away every paycheck till it becomes a reality. Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 5, 2010 Author Share Posted December 5, 2010 Noobs, noobs, noobs, you would like a couple of young wood peckers pecking at a tree, (beach no birch, no beach) let old grampa woodpecker take his his dang old pecker to this tree and peck away at it. He'll tell you that the tree is one of the best peices of ash out there fellows. So here's my opinion, go with the leds as I have tried all lightin options and am most impressed with leds. You won't be looking for super growth rates here in a tank of this size as opposed to color, pop, and effenciency. The benifits of leds have been laid out before you already vs growth. So what. What are you going to do when your tank outgrows itself in a matter of months, drop a grand on a bigger system, not too smart. If your into aio's you chould check out the finnex M tanks like the one I am using. It is the best of the aio's I have run. The lighting is perfect also with a MH/T5 combo that is hard to argue with. I'm still dreaming of upgrading to a custom led fixture, just putting change away every paycheck till it becomes a reality. I think I'm going with the BioCube. The main things I'll have in the tank are zoas, softies, and euphyllias. My hornets will look great under 150w HQI and so will my euphyllias. The LEDs on the NanoCube are more white than blue, and I've seen the tank in person before and it's nothing special. In this case, HQI beats LEDs to me. And I want my zoas to "outgrow" the tank. Wouldn't it be awesome having huge colonies of red and purple hornets? Link to comment
bioload Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I think I'm going with the BioCube. The main things I'll have in the tank are zoas, softies, and euphyllias. My hornets will look great under 150w HQI and so will my euphyllias. The LEDs on the NanoCube are more white than blue, and I've seen the tank in person before and it's nothing special. In this case, HQI beats LEDs to me. And I want my zoas to "outgrow" the tank. Wouldn't it be awesome having huge colonies of red and purple hornets? I also have the BC 29 HQI and love it. I did change out the stock bulb for a phoenix14k ,which is maybe 45 bucks, and the look of the tank with the crisp blue white shimmering light is quite stunning.No actinics needed. I have no experience with the NanoCube so cant compare the two. With that light I mentioned you can also keep sps in the upper half of the tank if you want. Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 I also have the BC 29 HQI and love it. I did change out the stock bulb for a phoenix14k ,which is maybe 45 bucks, and the look of the tank with the crisp blue white shimmering light is quite stunning.No actinics needed. I have no experience with the NanoCube so cant compare the two. With that light I mentioned you can also keep sps in the upper half of the tank if you want. I assume by that you mean the 150w one? I bookmarked the page that was selling it and I'll keep it in mind for when it's time to update the bulb. Link to comment
almost Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 i havent seen the nanocubes led light that ur talking about if it has more coolwhite than royalblue its gonna look crappy but if u have a led light that is 2:1 RB:CW zoas colors will pop more than mh i find it funny how ppl will claim that mh is better than led or led is better than mh till there blue in the face. light photons are light photons there is no such thing as mh photons or led photons its all the same its wave length par and pur that make a difference. so just get the right led combo to = mh but with out heat and bulb replacement my vote is for a stock biocube and add 12-24 crees with more rb than cw but its your tank, Link to comment
Chest Rockwell Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 LEDs, no brainer. Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 I'm pretty sure I've said this before. The LEDs in the NanoCube are more like 3 whites to 1 blue and they look exactly the same as MH. I've decided on MH and nobody is going to change my mind. Link to comment
bioload Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I assume by that you mean the 150w one? I bookmarked the page that was selling it and I'll keep it in mind for when it's time to update the bulb. Yes its a 150w Coralife fixture that comes with the BC29 HQI. Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Yes its a 150w Coralife fixture that comes with the BC29 HQI. No I meant the bulb you replaced it with. There's a phoenix 14k 150w MH and a phoenix 14k 250w MH, so I assumed you were talking about the 150w since putting a 250w bulb in the fixture would blow the ballast. Link to comment
bioload Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 No I meant the bulb you replaced it with. There's a phoenix 14k 150w MH and a phoenix 14k 250w MH, so I assumed you were talking about the 150w since putting a 250w bulb in the fixture would blow the ballast. Yes you can only reliably use the wattage the ballast was designed for....in this case 150w only Link to comment
Euphyllia Posted December 25, 2010 Author Share Posted December 25, 2010 The decision was made for me. "Santa" left the BioCube HQI in my garage for Christmas. Link to comment
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