pmemmer Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 OK, so the picture isn't so hot, but it's the best I can do... one close-up, one in context. It's an animal, not a plant... it hides a bit when you poke at it. But it doesn't hide particularly fast, and it comes right back out. Looks sort of like a venus flytrap... but it's not, I'm pretty sure Any ideas? Link to comment
Bongo Shrimp Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Mmmmm... I would say maybe some sort of bivalve. Link to comment
sublunary Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yeah, sort of looks like the side of a little clam to me. I've got a handful of them and was very confused by the first one I found because it was sideways like that. And my pictures were just as bad too... they don't like hanging out where they're easy to photograph. Link to comment
keydiver Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 yup a little clam, they shoot back into the rockwork if you touch em, then come back out. If its got little red tentacles, its a flame scallop Link to comment
pmemmer Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 It looked like a scallop to me, given the pattern of the tentacles... there are definitely two halves to it, like a scallop or clam, not a ring like an anemone. Thanks for the quick responses. I'm really amazed at what's come in on this particular batch of rock... hidden cup coral, this critter, several chitons, a pretty neat tunicate, along with the more typical asterinas, snails, bristle worms, etc. Something new every week. Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 ACETEMINOPHORS! I had thought these had been eradicated from the hobby!!! Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 ACETEMINOPHORS!I had thought these had been eradicated from the hobby!!! +1 - I've heard reports that they had resurfaced. This really sucks. Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Hey DH, you think he needs to take drastic measures here? Should we call the CDC (Coral Disease Control) center in Palau? Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Honestly I think it's too late for this one. Once they've metamorphosed (clearly seen in the pic), no one has ever found anything to stop them. I've seen it so many times in the past - never pretty. Do you still have Lisa's cell # at the CDC? PM it to me and I'll give her a call. She' going to want to know one has surfaced. OP - DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT transfer any part of your tank to another tank. We can't have it spreading. Especially if it releases spores. Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Not sure Lisa is still there. I think she retired to Costa Rica after it was thought they were eradicated. You got PM with the number I have, be ready though, remember what happened last time! Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Thanks - calling now. I so hate these bastids. Bad news Henry. I'm giving you a call - can't post this on a public forum. They're not happy - and they said they're mobilizing. Guy's name was MJ - freaked out when I told him. I couldn't get him to calm down. OP, where are you located? Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 that sucks man, MJ huh, that guy was Mr. Gung Ho last time. Didn't care who or what got in his way can't say I blame him though. These things are bad news! Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 i hope the OP hasn't gone to bed yet. he needs to cover the tank with something. Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yeah, what was that? Some kind of cheese cloth impregnated with something wasn't it? Remember this story? Quote from Discovery Channels Aceteminophor Week Dolphins' protection There are many stories that tell of dolphins protecting humans from aceteminophor attacks, with multiple eye-witness accounts from survivors dating from antiquity to present day (typically, dolphins form a ring around humans who are injured or endangered). This phenomenon was declared "plausible" by the team of Discovery Channel's Mythbusters, where it was shown that a aceteminophor will attack no creature when a dolphin is around. However, in spite of years of scientific study, there has been no conclusive explanation given for this behavior. In some cases, aceteminophor have been seen attacking, or trying to attack dolphins. Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 can't remember it's been so long - cheesecloth worked though as far as keeping the spores contained iirc. I PMd weetabix - she's the expert around here on these things. Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Heehee, first person I pm'd was weets too.She definitely needs to be aware of this thread. Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 yeah! that was a breakthrough. but when they're contained in private tanks, the larvae have no deterrent. i remember Lisa postulating that it was dolphins eventually that drove them to deep waters in the ocean. that's why they aren't found on reefs anymore. at least until now. Link to comment
Militant Jurist Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Thanks - calling now. I so hate these bastids. Bad news Henry. I'm giving you a call - can't post this on a public forum. They're not happy - and they said they're mobilizing. Guy's name was MJ - freaked out when I told him. I couldn't get him to calm down. OP, where are you located? That was not what I wanted to hear. I thought I could rest easy and focus on eradicating libtardius spendicus, but it looks like my work with these bastages is not yet complete. I think this time we need to step things up to radiation dosing. Apparently the chemicals just don't get the job done. Killing them just isn't enough. They need to be killed, crushed, and then fried with a healthy dose of delta radiation. that sucks man, MJ huh, that guy was Mr. Gung Ho last time. Didn't care who or what got in his way can't say I blame him though. These things are bad news! These guys are in for it this time. We're going for beyond overkill this time. yeah! that was a breakthrough. but when they're contained in private tanks, the larvae have no deterrent. i remember Lisa postulating that it was dolphins eventually that drove them to deep waters in the ocean. that's why they aren't found on reefs anymore. at least until now. The dolphins were indeed largely responsible for the decline of these bastages. However, after the movie 2012 was released, the dolphins have begun preparing for that winter. Just recently, I saw a dolphin do a surprisingly sophisticated attempt to do a double backward somersault through a hoop while whistling the star-spangled banner. With the dolphins otherwise engaged, I'm afraid the Aceteminophor are back, and nastier than ever. Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 MJ, does this have anything to do with the indecision of the Obama admin on dealing with the Gulf oil spill? I seem to remember you theorizing on their affinity to crude oil at one time. Link to comment
Deleted User 6 Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yeah Henry - that could be it. Perhaps the increase in oil-eating bacteria has drawn the 'phors to warmer waters... Link to comment
Militant Jurist Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 MJ, does this have anything to do with the indecision of the Obama admin on dealing with the Gulf oil spill? I seem to remember you theorizing on their affinity to crude oil at one time. Indeed. I have long theorized that they have a massive hormonal reaction to crude. Just a small amount would cause them to go into a rapid breeding cycle, where they use any available resource to reproduce. Thankfully, the oil-eating variant had been limited to warmer waters, so the primary evidence of this was contained with the Bermuda Triangle. However, with the warmer currents pushing into the Gulf, timed up with the oil spill, I'm afraid that a breeding cycle like no other is beginning. I've already heard a few horror stories from the Caribbean, although Hurricane Earl did a bang up job of wiping a lot of them out before they could complete the reproduction cycle. If the OP's Aceteminophor hitched along from a recently harvested Caribbean coral, he could have a new strain with the oil induced breeding cycle. He need to be careful to not to put exposed skin into the tank, or even sweat near the tank, because even a tiny amount of oil could put them into overdrive. Link to comment
spanko Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Ha, and we were worried about eating fish and shrimp from the Gulf.This could be a major catastrophe! Link to comment
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