xgame2k Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I am deciding on which MP10 I should get. I want maximum growth out of the corals (sps, etc...), but I don't want my tank to break anytime soon. I here that RCM greatly reduces the life of your tank, so is the NTM of the new ES MP10 any better? It will be going on the Biocube 29 and I see that most people are placing them on the left side of the tank (same side as the overflow). Link to comment
xgame2k Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 It's Reef Crest Mode and Nutrient Transport Mode Link to comment
nanoreef-R Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Where in the world did you here that? Link to comment
kthehun89 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I am deciding on which MP10 I should get. I want maximum growth out of the corals (sps, etc...), but I don't want my tank to break anytime soon. I here that RCM greatly reduces the life of your tank, so is the NTM of the new ES MP10 any better? It will be going on the Biocube 29 and I see that most people are placing them on the left side of the tank (same side as the overflow). where did you here that? how would they reduce life of your tank. I'd focus more on pristine water params, and good light. Flow is key, but you wont notice a huge difference by changing the MP10's settings Link to comment
jjjo Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 you can have the best... most natural and random flow in the world. but if your water quality, lighting, temperature, tank husbandry, ETC are OFF... you still wont get good growth. Link to comment
herranton Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 I guess it would depend on the kind of tank that you have. The vortechs are capable of stressing the tanks but if you have a standard 15aga or bigger, I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you have a lot of holes in the back. FWIW, I was worried about the short pulse mode stressing my 5.5aga. Link to comment
xgame2k Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 It was a question someone was asking VorTech on another forum. I'm not talking water quality. Just modes on the VorTech. Thanks. Link to comment
Bill Nye Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I guess it would depend on the kind of tank that you have. The vortechs are capable of stressing the tanks but if you have a standard 15aga or bigger, I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you have a lot of holes in the back. FWIW, I was worried about the short pulse mode stressing my 5.5aga. Im thinking of getting a vortech for my 5.5... Worth it? Im gonna be keeping a mixed reef a little heavier on the sps. Thinking it will last me a while so when I upgrade I just will kick it up a few notches My bad on the hijack Link to comment
Apoptosis Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Its the MP40 that grows them faster, FYI. Link to comment
Asureef Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I always thought it was water quality and light. I really like the "crest" mode, my corals seem to like it too. Link to comment
Urchinhead Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Umm... Under 10 gallon and its not a good idea. Not because it will break the tank but because its going to be allot of flow. You could dial it down low though. Link to comment
up.left Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Ive heard the same thing of mp's moving such a weight of water reducing the seam strength on tanks. And possibly making the acrylic or Silicone seams burst. Probably not probable but I've heard it. Link to comment
Carlton'sTank Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 They move some water, but not enough to bust out the side of your tank. I have had increased growth in my tank, but I can't say it is because of a particular setting on my MP10, there are just too many variables. It makes me feel like I am doing all that technology allows in the flow department, but there are so so so many factors that go into good growth. I mean two identical tanks could be set up and one may show more growth than the other. Link to comment
Dani3d Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 wow..I would think that it would kill the coral before it thear apart a tank! I would think that the kind of pressure needed to dammage a tank would probably not be very good for coral either. I guess it would depend on the kind of tank that you have. The vortechs are capable of stressing the tanks but if you have a standard 15aga or bigger, I wouldn't worry about it. Unless you have a lot of holes in the back. FWIW, I was worried about the short pulse mode stressing my 5.5aga. Link to comment
jaynkeel Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I can't see it breaking the seam on a tank unless the seam is faulty already. But in my experience if you have a 28 gal nano cube with the stock stand, be careful because it will certainly make the stand wobble if you turn it up to high. But then again I'm not a big fan of the jbj stands. If it didn't come with the tank for free I never would have used it. As far as increased growth goes could be possible due to increased water flow and exchange. It hasn't negatively affected my coral growth. Link to comment
xgame2k Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 It's the the movement of the glass that weakens the seam, not flow. Link to comment
Captain Billy Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Vortechs are great but there are more dynamic, random ways to move water and perhaps get better growth than with a vortech. Link to comment
xgame2k Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Vortechs are great but there are more dynamic, random ways to move water and perhaps get better growth than with a vortech. Thanks for your input. Ha Link to comment
fiction101 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Vortechs are great but there are more dynamic, random ways to move water and perhaps get better growth than with a vortech. What are these more dynamic and random ways? Link to comment
Makaveli2702 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 is a rio 6hf and an mp10 too much flow for a biocube 29 Link to comment
Captain Billy Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Thanks for your input. Ha No problem. What are these more dynamic and random ways? I have two SCWD's running on a mag 12 and a mak 4, and they switch every 5 seconds on the mak 4 and every 6 seconds on the mag 12, so the flow is always randow and even more dynamic than the wave action you get with a vortech.. Just an example there are tons of ways to go about it though. IME the vortechs break a lot too, especially first generation wet assemblys. Link to comment
feerselyk Posted June 6, 2010 Share Posted June 6, 2010 No problem. I have two SCWD's running on a mag 12 and a mak 4, and they switch every 5 seconds on the mak 4 and every 6 seconds on the mag 12, so the flow is always randow and even more dynamic than the wave action you get with a vortech.. Just an example there are tons of ways to go about it though. IME the vortechs break a lot too, especially first generation wet assemblys. Having run both and MP40 and a SCWD, I would recommend you getting the MP10 anytime over a SCWD. The flow that an MP10 produces is far greater and random than any SCWD can produce. On top of that the flow coming out of the SCWD although alternating and somewhat random, is still laminar like a powerhead. The surge type of flow that can be produced by pulsing the Vortech is obviously much closer to what most corals have grown and evolved in over hundreds of thousands of years. Although the mainly laminar flow that the SCWD produces can be beneficial to some gorgonians like sea fans, the majority of corals which we keep as hobbyists, especially corals of the SPS variety grow and are found in the more surging currents of the reef. If you can afford the Vortech by all means it is a better choice than a SCWD. If you can't afford the Vortech the SCWD is a much better choice than just some powerheads. Link to comment
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