Seb Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 I just picked up my used RSM yesterday. The tank is only 6 months old I have the original receipt for it. This is what I have: Rsm 130 RSM Stand Tunze Nanostream 6025 and all of the test sets,salt and additives. The tank was neglected for some time I think as when I came for it it wasn't in a good condition so I took the tank home and cleaned it. I had a friend knock up 180L (47Gal) of fresh seawater. did some scaping and filled the tank. Some pictures: The Tank: The back wall before cleaning. Filling with fresh water: A lttle aquascaping: Now I have already orderen another 8KG (17Lbs) of fresh LR to be added. This isn't enough LR imo and some of the rock you see isn't even LR. So at the moment i'm looking at other tanks for cool scaping ideas. my LR should be here in 2 or 3 days. Link to comment
CrownOfficial Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 what are you planning on stocking with? corals fish inverts. what are you plans. looking good. how much did you get it for used? its in awesome condition Link to comment
Seb Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 When I filled the tank with water yesterday I used 100% freshly made seawater for 100% of the tank.(The water has been mixed and left for about 24hrs.) Later that evening I saw some dead critters floating around and this morning a dead worm so I pulled out the test set to see if my water was any good. I came up with these results: Temp: 25C or 77F SG: 1.024 PH: 8,4 No2: 0,1 No3: 5.0 Ca: 370 Mg: 1320 I also tested the amonia but couldn't really work out how to read of the chart. The test vial gave the same color as 0,25 on the low right end of the chart but I don't understand how to use this figure in the calculation described in the manual. Can someone explain this to me? Also ,what do you guys think of my test result. what Should I improve on and how do I achieve that? All help is welcome as I'm relatively new to the hobby. Link to comment
CrownOfficial Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 just put everything into your tank and run the filter and let it sit. test every couple of days and your nitrates should go down. then your going to get a spike in nitrates and an algae bloom. Link to comment
Seb Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 what are you planning on stocking with?corals fish inverts. what are you plans. looking good. how much did you get it for used? its in awesome condition Here's my whishlist.... Corals: Acropora formosa Montipora digitata Montipora monasteriata Acropora granulosa Caulastrea furcata Euphyllia ancora Euphyllia glabrescens Euphyllia paradivisa Favites flexuosa Xenia sp.(Pumping xenia) Discosoma coeruleus Ricordea Florida Ricordea yuma Zoanthus Briareum spp. Inverts: Lysmata amboinensis Percnon planissimum Percnon gibbesi Thor amboinensis Fish: Synchiropus splendidus Synchiropus picturatus Amphiprion percula Doryrhamphus excisus Chrysiptera hemicyanea Salarias fasciatus Halichoeres chrysus Opistognathus aurifrons Pterapogon kauderni Starfish: Archaster angulatus Note I will not add all of the above but these are the things I like in a aquarium. I will try to keep the numbers of fish down to a minimum and I'll have to see what works in the tank and what I can get my hands on. Some of the things above can only be added after a year or so whan the tank is been running for a while. Now the people I bought it from bought all of this 6 months ago from the dealer and I have all the original receipts; Tank: €699,- / $ 978,- Tunze streamer: €59,- / $ 84,- LR 20kg 40lbs: € 250,- / $ 350,- Other stuff all together: €80,- / $ 112,- Total: €1.088,- / $1.523,- These people put their RSM on the dutch equivalent of E-bay and I put in an offer which they accepted pretty quickly. (maybe they needed money fast in these times of crisis...) I paid for the whole package.... €300,- / $ 420,- So I think I have a real bargain here and maybe the cheapest RSM on NR...lol. The only thing I had to buy was a thermometer for €1,50 / $ 2,10 Link to comment
CrownOfficial Posted June 21, 2009 Share Posted June 21, 2009 lol. nice steal. and thats a very nice stocking list. Link to comment
Seb Posted June 21, 2009 Author Share Posted June 21, 2009 I have done a bit of DIY on the skimmer. It wouldn't skim or give any substantual bubbles. I got a saw and took off 1,5 cm of the bottom and glued some airhose on it. I also adjusted the skimmer pump outlet a bit and it seems the bubbles escape the pipe a bit easier. I'm very satisfied with the results. I know I will have to get the tunze 9002 and drop stevieT a line anyway but this has made my day! I had a feeling I forgot something and all of a sudden I knew. I hadn't checked underneath the two return pumps.... And yes! ofcourse I find the original bag of active carbon and the bag of ceramic pipes... They had turned all green brown and disgusting and must have been in there since the start 6 months ago. I quickly (but carefully) whipped them out and I'm hoping this will help the quality of the water. I did put in 1 (fresh) bag of AC and placed it on the slopey bit of the skimmer. Link to comment
wmb_1983 Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 wow i hope haveing that old rotten crap under your pumps wont hurt your water any make sure to keep a good eye on it. Link to comment
StevieT Posted June 22, 2009 Share Posted June 22, 2009 Calc is a little low but without anything in the tank yet it no big deal. You may be high on the fish stocking but I don't understand what they are so hard to tell I have added you to the RSM index thread cool skimmer mod Link to comment
slcw Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 hey Seb, u got the tank on the same day i got mine...hehe see u around Link to comment
monosyth Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'll be keeping an eye on this one. Lots of new RSMs! Link to comment
Seb Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Thanks for the replies!!! I'll be watching your tanks too! well.. I watch about half of the tanks on this forum anyway... I did another small mod to the tank. I added a small rubber ring to the two return pumps. I put the ring between the pump and the back wall to to keep the resonating sounds to a minimum and again this is a succesfull modification to keep the noise down. Sorry for the bad pic but you get the idea.. I have also added another 6lbs of LR to the tank but I'm still waiting on the other 12lbs of LR that I should get any day now so I can start my rock scaping project. I have just added the rock now.\ I don't see any critters during the day exept for this little one in the picture. At night I do see a few but not very much at all... Also my rocks are covered in a brown algae. It's not like the green hairy type but it looks a bit more like a slimey brown layer. You can compare the picture below with one of my first pictures to campore the rock. Is this ok? should I not get nice green algae?? I'm a bit worried now so if someone could answer this for me it would be much apreciated. Mod: Critter: FTS: Link to comment
monosyth Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Are you planning on adding sand? Might want to do it soon? Link to comment
slcw Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 u have a layer of film on the water surface, u might wish move the water inlet to the filter compartment higher. In my case, i use my tunze nano to blow towards the inlet for further assistance Link to comment
Duncan Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 the brown algae is called diatom and it is perfectly normal... it will last for about 1 week. you might want to do some aquascapings about the rocks? to be honest, the rockscape doesnt look too great. Link to comment
JBM Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Your experiencing a cycle. This is a good thing. Be patient, read thru some of the other rsm threads for ideas & things of the like. Have fun & go slow Link to comment
Seb Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Are you planning on adding sand? Might want to do it soon? Yes, ofcourse I'll be added sand... But here in Holland they chase you with pitchforks if you put the sand in from the start. Most people here advise you to add the sand right after the cycle. You might heve to cycle for a longer period then but the sand stays nice,fresh and white. u have a layer of film on the water surface, u might wish move the water inlet to the filter compartment higher. In my case, i use my tunze nano to blow towards the inlet for further assistance Thanks, I'm playing with that. still haven't got it perfect yet. I have 1 outlet pointed to the surface to break the film. I took this picture right after I added some more LR so what you see is mostly sand and detritus that came of the LR the second it touched the water. Still have to find the exact right setup though. the brown algae is called diatom and it is perfectly normal... it will last for about 1 week. you might want to do some aquascapings about the rocks? to be honest, the rockscape doesnt look too great. Thatnks, Ill search for topics with diatom and have a look. I haven't done any scaping at all. I just dumped the LR in. This "scape" took about 5 mins. As said before I'm wating for another 12lbs of LR first before I start scaping. I don't see the point of scaping something now and then having to break it up over the weekend when the new LR arives. Your experiencing a cycle. This is a good thing. Be patient, read thru some of the other rsm threads for ideas & things of the like. Have fun & go slow I thought it was part of the cycle but most topics I read mentioned the nice and green algea whilst I'm experiencing this mucky brown Algea. You have all put my mind at rest now and I can sleep again. I'm planning to go very slowly ,1 step at the time. would be a waste to buy stuff and throw it out a week later. Link to comment
JBM Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 9 out of the 11 tanks i have set up ( not all for me ) have all experienced brown algae blooms within the first 3 weeks of being set up. I consider it a good thing. no need to worry, we wont let you make a mistake (atleast that we have already made before) Link to comment
Seb Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 Ok, thanks in advance because I certainly don't want to make any mistakes. All help is welcome So I have a few new questions... (1) I'm running the lights for 4hrs a day now building up slowly to more hours over the coming days/weeks. When the lights are on the diatom algae produce a lot of tiny airbubles. This is ok right? Will this affect my parameters? (2) I just spoted a teddybear crab I think it was hard to see because it ran back in it's hole. I already spotted the hole in the LR and thought it was odd because it looked freshly made. Today the crab showed itself a bit. It only stuck out a couple of hairy legs. First I thought it was a tentacle or something but then I think I spotted the body of the crap. I quicly took a picture but it quickly went back into it's hole before I could get a sharp picture. I want to remove the crab this weekend because I have read it will eat hermits and maybe snails. Mine also seems to heve a keen eye for drilling my LR to make a bigger house for himself. What is the easiest way to get him out? put him and the rock in a bucket of RO water? how long can I keep the rock in RO without killing the bacteria in the rock? Do you see him? (3) I played with the water intake grill or whatever you call it. it seemed to work for a while but now I have some surface film build up again. Can you tell me what the best height is for the grill measuring from the top down? Link to comment
slcw Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Ok, thanks in advance because I certainly don't want to make any mistakes. All help is welcome So I have a few new questions... (1) I'm running the lights for 4hrs a day now building up slowly to more hours over the coming days/weeks. When the lights are on the diatom algae produce a lot of tiny airbubles. This is ok right? Will this affect my parameters? if your tank has no corals yet, i would not switch on the lights. The air bubbles on the diatom algae means it is at the stage of photosynthesis. It is fine. If u have corals place on the diatom, it would disappear, as diatom compete with corals for lights and nutrients to grow (2) I just spoted a teddybear crab I think it was hard to see because it ran back in it's hole. I already spotted the hole in the LR and thought it was odd because it looked freshly made. Today the crab showed itself a bit. It only stuck out a couple of hairy legs. First I thought it was a tentacle or something but then I think I spotted the body of the crap. I quicly took a picture but it quickly went back into it's hole before I could get a sharp picture. I want to remove the crab this weekend because I have read it will eat hermits and maybe snails. Mine also seems to heve a keen eye for drilling my LR to make a bigger house for himself. What is the easiest way to get him out? put him and the rock in a bucket of RO water? how long can I keep the rock in RO without killing the bacteria in the rock? Do you see him? (3) I played with the water intake grill or whatever you call it. it seemed to work for a while but now I have some surface film build up again. Can you tell me what the best height is for the grill measuring from the top down? they say 1/4 inch away from the top i think, play around to find your own acceptable level. What i do is aim a tunze at the surface towards the grill for higher film breakup. Link to comment
Seb Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 New results just in!! I'ts been a week so I tought I's check my wter again, here are the results: Temp: 25C or 77F SG: 1.023 PH: 8,6 No2: 0,1 No3: 0 NH3/NH+4: 0 Ca: 480 So my Nitrate has dropped dramaticly and my Calcium has risen from 370 to 480. I have been adding Ca and Sera Ammovec over the past week and these results show it has done something to the water. I still feel a bit unexpirienced doing the tests and always doubt my results. I use the red sea test kit and just follow the instructions. Are these good test results or are the impossible compared to the last test 1 week ago? 21-06-2009 ------------- 27-06-2009 Temp: 25C or 77F---------------- 25C or 77F SG: 1.024 ------------------1.023 PH: 8,4 --------------------- 8.6 No2: 0,1 ----------------------0.1 No3: 5.0 ----------------------0.0 Ca: 370 --------------------- 480 Mg: 1320 ------------------- - Link to comment
Toomin Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 the brown algae is called diatom and it is perfectly normal... it will last for about 1 week. you might want to do some aquascapings about the rocks? to be honest, the rockscape doesnt look too great. i was about to say that as well! after all, your tank is quite tall. do some nice stacking! Link to comment
Seb Posted June 27, 2009 Author Share Posted June 27, 2009 i was about to say that as well!after all, your tank is quite tall. do some nice stacking! sigh... do chicks not read....? In this topic I have already written (twice) that I'm waiting for more LR and I will not do any aquascaping till I get it. The rock that's in the tank just now is just there so it can cure the tank. so this is now the third time I say this.... I see no point in spending hours aquascaping when I have to break it all up again when more LR comes in next week. (should have been today but hey..) Link to comment
wmb_1983 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 your tank is coming along nicely i will keep my eyes on this. your tank is about a month younger than mine so if i can help in any way feel free to pm me. Link to comment
Seb Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 Thanks WMB. Still waiting for more rock... can't wait to start rockscaping. Your tank might be only 1 month older but you're lightyears ahead of me... My tank consists of saltwater rocks and diatoms...... Do you know how long the diatom stayed in your tank? Link to comment
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