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[update] UPS is coming to pick up the damaged tank and make their third tank delivery. Let's hope no one dropped it this time. I am quite excited that there exists the chance of a tank being delivered in one piece. :happydance::naughtydance::haha:fingerscrossed:unsure:

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illuminano
[update] UPS is coming to pick up the damaged tank and make their third tank delivery. Let's hope no one dropped it this time. I am quite excited that there exists the chance of a tank being delivered in one piece. :happydance::naughtydance::haha:fingerscrossed:unsure:

 

Ive heard so many horror stories about these tanks being dropped while shipping, so i was nervous two weeks ago when mine came, but not a scratch on it and thats from new york to canada! i gues i got VERY lucky. The lights' box was DESTROYED but everything seems to work fine.

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rizakaniza
Ive heard so many horror stories about these tanks being dropped while shipping, so i was nervous two weeks ago when mine came, but not a scratch on it and thats from new york to canada! i gues i got VERY lucky. The lights' box was DESTROYED but everything seems to work fine.

 

Maybe their competition has spies working for UPS :ninja:

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awbowden

Will you hurry up and get water in that tank! ;)

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rizakaniza
Will you hurry up and get water in that tank! ;)

First I need a tank that holds water. :P

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MedRed

what light fixture is that?

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rizakaniza
what light fixture is that?

That's the light that comes with tank.

 

UPS site says tank is out for delivery...don't drop it Forest Gump! fingerscrossed:scarry::rant:

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MedRed

dang it... that light would have been great if it came in 250w. I know what you're going through. UPS broke my Solana on its way to my door. sad day. I'm crossing my fingers for you!

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MrIcky
Alright, so I have been doing research for months and months and I finally decided against the Red Sea Max and the Nano Cube for the Cadlights 39g Pro. I've currently saved up half the money that I need for it, so purchasing it is still a few months away. I've been thinking of different ways types of aquascaping and I am stuck between making a sort of island in the middle of the tank or making a rock/foam wall so it appears like an entire face of reef. Anyway, those are just some ideas I am running through my head. I've heard a lot of people talk about the benefits of a deep sea bed, so I'm thinking maybe a 3"-4". I'll be looking forward to any help I can get once I get the tank.

 

BTW, funny story, I was in my favorite LFS and they asked me if I wanted to but one of their tanks and I told them about the cadlights and the store owner ran to her computer to look it up. She was so amazed she filled out the distributor request form right there and faxed it over. If she can get it and save me some shipping costs that would be great!

 

I love the island in the middle of the tank, but they seem very hard to pull off with the epoxy, acrylic rods, etc. That false wall on that tank in the t5HO thread is amazing looking and looked alot more straightforward to pull off. Either one would look amazing, but I would choose the false wall because I'm lazy.

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rizakaniza

I had been waiting at home all day for the delivery. I went outside and found a delivery attempt made sticker on my door. I had been home in my living room all day and never heard a knock on the door. :rant:

 

I called UPS and they are going to re-deliver today. I have a friend who will sign for me. I am no longer a fan of UPS.

 

Me==> :slap: <==UPS man

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rizakaniza

I am sure everyone is sick of the UPS storyline here, but what happened on Friday was I stepped away from the living room for a few minutes and the UPS guy came to the door ninja style :ninja: quickly left a note and ran away. I called them and they were going to re-deliver same day, but after waiting until 9pm the tracking notes stated that I requested to pickup from facility, which I did not. So I called again and rescheduled delivery for monday. I hope forest gump doesn't store my aquarium under a refrigerator over the weekend.

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rizakaniza
fingerscrossed Hoping for a timely delivery this morning. fingerscrossed

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SeaSkull

I used to design packaging, and I can tell you that the foam cushioning and probably the corrugated box are not sufficient for protecting the aquarium from transportation damage. The foam look like slabs of 1" EPS (expanded polystyrene). It is a poor choice for a product this heavy and fragile. There also is not enough empty space between the box and the glass. If the product is dropped, the foam will compress, and a one inch cushion around the glass does not allow enough space for compression for this heavy of a product. A properly designed package with the correct type of foam cushioning and possibly a double or triple wall corrugated box would be better for protecting glass from the rigors of cross country shipment.

I would think that CAD has an extremely high amount of returns from seeing the type of packaging they are using. CAD definitely should seek out a reputable packaging design company that can help them better protect their product. It will cost them more up front, but they will be available to avoid all that money spent on multiple returns and shattered tanks. I'm curious as to what the competitors use for their protective packaging. I don't see many complaints with damage.

 

It's a shame. I really liked this tank setup, but I don't have the time to deal with multiple returns. Let's hope CAD does the right thing and fixes this packaging problem.

 

Riz, I hope you will receive your tank in one piece this time around. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

 

SeaSkull

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rizakaniza
I used to design packaging, and I can tell you that the foam cushioning and probably the corrugated box are not sufficient for protecting the aquarium from transportation damage. The foam look like slabs of 1" EPS (expanded polystyrene). It is a poor choice for a product this heavy and fragile. There also is not enough empty space between the box and the glass. If the product is dropped, the foam will compress, and a one inch cushion around the glass does not allow enough space for compression for this heavy of a product. A properly designed package with the correct type of foam cushioning and possibly a double or triple wall corrugated box would be better for protecting glass from the rigors of cross country shipment.

I would think that CAD has an extremely high amount of returns from seeing the type of packaging they are using. CAD definitely should seek out a reputable packaging design company that can help them better protect their product. It will cost them more up front, but they will be available to avoid all that money spent on multiple returns and shattered tanks. I'm curious as to what the competitors use for their protective packaging. I don't see many complaints with damage.

 

It's a shame. I really liked this tank setup, but I don't have the time to deal with multiple returns. Let's hope CAD does the right thing and fixes this packaging problem.

 

Riz, I hope you will receive your tank in one piece this time around. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

 

SeaSkull

When I spoke with Eddie he said they started using 2". At this point I think I am more upset with UPS as far as their customer service and inability to deliver a package within a certain time period for those of us who work for a living. Can't keep taking days off just to receive a package.

 

BTW, I still have not received the new tank. UPS did, however, pick up the damaged tank. I have a feeling the tank has either been lost or broken again at this point. They are "supposedly" going to be delivering by end of day today, but I don't think it's gonna happen. I feel like I am about to have an aneurysm.

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rizakaniza

We have a tank! ...I still hate UPS though. Here's a quick pic. And yes, it is in one piece!

 

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MedRed

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kamikaze

Awesome, now you can start enjoying things! :D

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rizakaniza

Okay, so on with the show. I'll just let the pics speak for themselves here.

 

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Lastly I'll put a little special something in the sump...

 

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PIPS

Looking good man.

 

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If you havent, i think you should use a zip tie to sucure in down.

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awbowden

Sweet, looks awesome. Don't forget to glue all your pvc and that return hose as well. Hose barbs work well instead of zip ties. Also, a big pair of channel locks work well for tightening the nuts under the tank.

 

What room do you plan on running this?

 

Do you plan on hanging the lights or using the feet?

 

Can't wait to see some water in there.

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rizakaniza
Sweet, looks awesome. Don't forget to glue all your pvc and that return hose as well. Hose barbs work well instead of zip ties. Also, a big pair of channel locks work well for tightening the nuts under the tank.

 

What room do you plan on running this?

 

Do you plan on hanging the lights or using the feet?

 

Can't wait to see some water in there.

What I'm gonna do is fill the tank with water for a test run first to make sure there are no tank leaks or such. After that I will start gluing things together. Since I live in earthquake country I was thinking of sticking with the feet for the lights. I don't want my lights swinging around and I think it looks better IMO. We are in the process of trying to buy a house, so I may have to delay filling with rock,sand,saltwater, which is fine, because I can use the money instead to buy an ATO, Controller, and circulation pumps. I can't afford an MP20, so I will be going with 2 Koralia's (maybe a 3 and a 4) I was thinking of keeping the tank in either the living room or kitchen of the house. I think in the living room the tank will be the most viewable.

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SeaSkull
When I spoke with Eddie he said they started using 2". At this point I think I am more upset with UPS as far as their customer service and inability to deliver a package within a certain time period for those of us who work for a living. Can't keep taking days off just to receive a package.

 

BTW, I still have not received the new tank. UPS did, however, pick up the damaged tank. I have a feeling the tank has either been lost or broken again at this point. They are "supposedly" going to be delivering by end of day today, but I don't think it's gonna happen. I feel like I am about to have an aneurysm.

 

Riz,

It's a common misconception that more foam is better protection. Unfortunately, this is not usually the case. The EPS he is using is the wrong foam for the job, and more of it will be like the product hitting a brick instead of performing as a protective cushion. A professional packaging specialist should really be called in to review the CAD packaging design. He/she will be able to select the proper foam cushioning and just as importantly, select the correct amount of foam based on it's density and product's weight. They can also perform drops tests and shock and vibration tests that simulate the shipping environment. Like I said, it will cost CAD money, but in the long run they can will save even more money by avoiding all the returns and multiple shipments.

 

I'm really glad you were able to receive an intact aquarium this time around. Thanks for the photos too. This will be very helpful to people starting out with the CAD 39G. I look forward to your tank being set up. It looks like a great nano tank.

 

Regards,

SeaSkull

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rizakaniza
Riz,

It's a common misconception that more foam is better protection. Unfortunately, this is not usually the case. The EPS he is using is the wrong foam for the job, and more of it will be like the product hitting a brick instead of performing as a protective cushion. A professional packaging specialist should really be called in to review the CAD packaging design. He/she will be able to select the proper foam cushioning and just as importantly, select the correct amount of foam based on it's density and product's weight. They can also perform drops tests and shock and vibration tests that simulate the shipping environment. Like I said, it will cost CAD money, but in the long run they can will save even more money by avoiding all the returns and multiple shipments.

 

I'm really glad you were able to receive an intact aquarium this time around. Thanks for the photos too. This will be very helpful to people starting out with the CAD 39G. I look forward to your tank being set up. It looks like a great nano tank.

 

Regards,

SeaSkull

 

Thanks! I was wasn't doubting what you were saying. I think you're right. CAD should rethink their packaging. I can understand one broken tank, but two in a row is something different. It is such a beautiful tank and I'm glad I went with this instead of the smaller AIO's I was looking at.

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SeaSkull
Riz,

It's a common misconception that more foam is better protection. Unfortunately, this is not usually the case. I'm not sure EPS is the right foam for the job ( he is definitely using the wrong amount), and more of it will be like the product hitting a brick instead of performing as a protective cushion. A professional packaging specialist should really be called in to review the CAD packaging design. He/she will be able to select the proper foam cushioning and just as importantly, select the correct amount of foam based on it's density and product's weight. They can also perform drops testing and shock and vibration tests that simulate the shipping environment. Like I said, it will cost CAD money, but in the long run they can will save even more money by avoiding all the returns and multiple shipments.

 

I'm really glad you were able to receive an intact aquarium this time around. Thanks for the photos too. This will be very helpful to people starting out with the CAD 39G. I look forward to your tank being set up. It looks like a great nano tank.

 

Regards,

SeaSkull

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mkregs

I ordered my 39 pro at the end of last week. I hope I don't have as many damage issues as you had.

 

Now...quit slackin' and get some water in that thing.... :P

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