Obi Juan kenobi Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 One of my local LFS has had one for over 3 years and counting and fragged it numerous times and the frags are doing fine. Link to comment
Greenstar Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I still am failing to see the difference in taking a Plerogyra off the reef via hammer and chisel and taking a Goniopora in the same manner. If either land in the hands of the wrong keeper they are going to die, however given proper care both may live for many years, the only difference being the a healthy goniopora stands a better chance of being fragged than a Plerogyra and either way both will never see the reef again and both are biologically dead. Link to comment
BKtomodachi Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 enough.......there has been no flowerpots kept alive for over 1 and a half to two years in a home tank...i get your point and i think this is ridiculous at this point....they are no good for the home aquarium lol way to miss the entire point greenstar is making. Nice. Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 TY BK i'm done with this site......some ignorant ppl.....no wonder society is FU**ED Link to comment
Greenstar Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 ignore him.....he just likes to sound smart I figured there was no getting through to you Last try, Until recently, I have, in good conscience, offered the same advice heard from reefkeepers across the country when referring to Goniopora: "Yes, they're very pretty, but don't buy them. They won't make it past a year." Personally, I took this statement as a challenge, and set out to change the way we looked at the care of this "impossible" coral. Currently, I am keeping nine species of this coral alive in my systems at Fin and Feather Pets, and have used the knowledge gained from my successes to assist several local customers with Goniopora in their own home aquariums. I can now tell customers that it is possible to keep Goniopora alive, as long as you provide the proper care and feeding for the species in question....... Some of these exceptional corals were Goniopora. The unusual ones piqued my interest, so I placed them in our "for display only" system. After a few years I realized they were still alive, and were a likely candidate for successful aquaculture; I just needed to determine why I was successful and how my success could be repeated. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/nftt/index.php Bottom line yes you can keep Gonioporas, long term if you due it right. Same with jelly fish or cuttles. Oops forgot citation Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 stories like that are a drop in a bucket........they are not a good choice for a home coral nice try though Link to comment
lakshwadeep Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Oops forgot citation Don't worry about that. nyfishguy seems to have personal experience with the complete failure at keeping gonioporas by everyone else. Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Don't worry about that. nyfishguy seems to have personal experience with the complete failure at keeping gonioporas by everyone else. kept 2 year and a half like clockwork anyone else wanna take a stab?? ill be here all night Link to comment
Greenstar Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Alas it was my ignorance, by not ignoring the facts, that drove him away. Maybe if I stuck my head in the sand instead of looking towards progressive reef keeping "society" would not be so "####ed up" Link to comment
Obi Juan kenobi Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 One of my local LFS has had one for over 3 years and counting and fragged it numerous times and the frags are doing fine. I've seen it with my own eyes Link to comment
BKtomodachi Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 stories like that are a drop in a bucket........they are not a good choice for a home coral nice try though hahahaha, oh man. its like talking to a brick wall, its awesome. Not one single person ever claimed it to be a good choice for a home coral. oh, lol, this is great Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 progressive is fine but not at the expense of living things.....sorry Link to comment
Greenstar Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 stories like that are a drop in a bucket........they are not a good choice for a home coral nice try though Then neither are tubasterea or any Acro because they require special care. Gonioporas typically die in captivity due to starvation not some magic expiration date. If you feed them correctly they won't starve, if they don't starve they won't die, therefore with correct feeding, along with correct lighting, a goniopora should not die in a home aquarium. Link to comment
Mudfish Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 enough.......there has been no flowerpots kept alive for over 1 and a half to two years in a home tank...i get your point and i think this is ridiculous at this point....they are no good for the home aquarium done, finished, please some one delete this f-in' thread already No, NOT enough! You started this mess... Your entire premise was wrong-headed. Now just back off, noob, and leave the real reefing to us! Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 that's funny "real reefing".....anything else you wanna add? I probably know more then you ever will my friend ENOUGH Link to comment
Greenstar Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 progressive is fine but not at the expense of living things.....sorry Your kidding me right? So the first person who tried to keep coral was successful? All corals survive automatically and people never figured out Calcium or Organic loads without messing up? And it comes to a culmination with Goniopora being the one species you absolutely under any circumstance can not keep? that's funny "real reefing".....anything else you wanna add? I probably know more then you ever will my friend ENOUGH Your loosing an argument and failing to provide facts I dare say this is enough I think we are just getting started. Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Your kidding me right? So the first person who tried to keep coral was successful? All corals survive automatically and people never figured out Calcium or Organic loads without messing up? And it comes to a culmination with Goniopora being the one species you absolutely under any circumstance can not keep? not saying that but it's careless with all we know now that's all....please stop it now...you're making this all out to be some thing bigger than it needs to be....im sure we will agree to disagree but name calling is kiddy sh**..... Link to comment
lakshwadeep Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 So, nyfishguy, when will you put your live rock and corals back into the ocean? I mean, your pleasure at having a piece of the ocean in your home comes at the expense of living things, right? Link to comment
Mudfish Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 that's funny "real reefing".....anything else you wanna add? I probably know more then you ever will my friend ENOUGH Honestly, if you're that afraid you should take up knitting instead. If the intrinsic purity of the life of every single organism is truly that important to you, then you have no business exposing ANY animal to captivity, even a hermit or a corallimorph. You're not being honest. Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 So, nyfishguy, when will you put your live rock and corals back into the ocean? I mean, your pleasure at having a piece of the ocean in your home comes at the expense of living things, right? I have all aquacultured corals and the live rock is only thing that comes from the ocean in my tank Link to comment
lakshwadeep Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have all aquacultured corals and the live rock is only thing that comes from the ocean in my tank Well, then you should get an aquacultured goniopora. Link to comment
Greenstar Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 What do you mean not at this time? People have been keeping goni's long term since 05 and that just not stokei or nummeiflora (however the #### you spell it) but a whole host of species. I have all aquacultured corals and the live rock is only thing that comes from the ocean in my tank Total bull###### you have a Plegogyra sinulosa, very difficult to frag successfully and judging by it size and the age of you tank thats damn near impossible Link to comment
nyfishguy Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 ohhh you mean the pearl bubble....that was from my old tank my 72 bow....that's before i knew what an ass i was being about buying wild collected corals.....anything else?? Link to comment
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