SAS REJECT Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 HI ALL THIS IS MY FIRST POST I HAVE BEEN KEEPING KOI AND MALAWIS FOR 7 YEARS ISH THIS YEAR I GOT MY FIRST MARINE TANK (130ltr) A RED SEA MAX I SET IT UP 3 MONTHS AGO THE WATER (R.O) AS FAR AS I CAN TELL IS OK AMMONIA,NITRITE,NITRATE, ALL READING ZERO CALCIUM AT 430ppm,P.H 8,3, PHOS AND SILICATE ALSO AT ZERO TEMP KEPT BETWEEN 24 & 25 (COOLER ADDED) STOCKING IS 1 MANDARIN, 2 CLOWNS 1 BLUE STARFISH, 1 ORANGE STARFISH( NOT WELL), 1SAND STAR,4 TURBO SNAILS, 1 BLOOD SHRIMP, 3 BLUE KNEE HERMITS AND 2 SMALL CORALS ANY IDEAS WHY THINGS KEEP DYING 2 SHRIMPS, 1 ARROW CRAB, 2 HERMITS, 1 CORAL AND NOW THE ORANGE STAR IS LOOKING ILL ALL WERE PUT INTO THE TANK WITH A DRIP SOME ARE REPLACEMENT STOCK FOR DEAD STOCK ANY IDEAS ???? AS I AM NOT ENJOYING TORCHERING SMALL ANIMALS THANKS Link to comment
Rocket Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Caps lock. Most likely your problem. Link to comment
allenspidey Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I'm thinking you are way overstocked in a very short time. Add nothing else. Get all starfish out along with the mandarin. How many have you lost in the past? Link to comment
nano-nater Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Wow just reading what you wrote hurts my head.. Link to comment
Izzue Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 ANY CHANCE OF COPPER CONTAMINATION???? Izzue Link to comment
revaltion131 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I know this seems like a stupid question, but are you certain the dead invertebrates were really dead, and not just molts? Link to comment
ClaireFB Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 What are you feeding the mandarin? Can you actually see him/her eating? Is he/she well rounded with no visible indented stomach? If not it's probably starving to death. They usually need a very mature system with lots of live rock and a refugium to provide the constant supply of copepods they need to survive, unless it eats prepared foods. Three starfish in such a young system is a worry. One would really be too many. They also need large, mature systems in order not to starve to death. Good luck with your tank. Slow down, enjoy it, and read everything you can lay your hands on! Link to comment
SAS REJECT Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 the mandarin is looking ok and well fed i will not be putting any thing else in for a while i have lost 2 shrimps,1 arrow crab, 2 hermits & and 1 coral no chance of copper contamination as i try not to use Chemicals if poss the water comes from an R,O unit ( sediment,carbon,sediment,carbon,membrane) invertebrates were really dead i have kept blue lobsters for a while but thanks they make me think twice sometimes b4 i take them out of the tank thanks to all Link to comment
Izzue Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Please dont waste my time... LOBSTEr... Keep feeding it inverts... Ill hold my name calling Izzue Link to comment
greeneyes Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I would say that you are way overstocked. Also you adding things really fast. I would remove some live stock, either take it back to the pet store or have someone hold it for you. Link to comment
SAS REJECT Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 salinity is at 1.023 Izzue WTF YOU ON ABOUT Link to comment
Izzue Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Maybe I miss read...so no worries... but if you had a lobster with those inverts... Sounds like you or your LFS are not acclimateing right. If so no worries... Try a poly filter and see if you pull any metals. WTF...is not quit needed...I usally follow things a make a post about...to me thats just like cussing. Just tying to help..if point missed...keep on posting. Izzue Link to comment
SAS REJECT Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 hi the lobsters are fresh water in my rift lake tank not the reef set up a bit of cross wires. acclimateing buy a drip system. am just getting frustrated with killing things . Link to comment
HankB Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 hi the lobsters are fresh water in my rift lake tanknot the reef set up a bit of cross wires. acclimateing buy a drip system. am just getting frustrated with killing things . Sorry to hear about things dieing and props for posting here, risking criticism, to to find a solution. And in case no one has said this to N-R. Is there any chance that your LR came from a FOWLR tank? If so it could be a source of copper that could be doing in your inverts. Other than that, I can only echo the other's comments about taking things slowly so the bacteria that break down waste products remain balanced with the producers. HTH, hank Link to comment
Sexy Shrimp Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 +1 on taking the starfish back. They are sensitive to parameter fluctuations associated with new tanks and they are notoriously difficult to acclimitise. Mandarin - what are you feeding him? Have you weaned him off pods and onto frozen? If so well done. They are even more notorious than the starfish Keep posting and maybe we can get to the bottom of it. Though I suspect it is just adding too much too quickly... Just an afterthought - have you immediately added stock after the deaths? You should wait a couple of weeks after a death before adding anything else just in case you have a mini cycle. Link to comment
SAS REJECT Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 thanks for the welcome hank i do not now how lhe live rock was treated b4 i got it. the mandarin is stil eating the pods on the rock. adding too much too quickly...yes i think so but would the amonia be at zero still ???? and i will NOT be adding anything untill i have got to the bottom of the problem. THANKS FOR THE HELP Link to comment
Duncan Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 posting your tank pic would be helpful Link to comment
Sexy Shrimp Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 the mandarin is stil eating the pods on the rock. That was why I asked. Do you have an alternative food source when the pods run out? I f not you will have a dead mandarin on your hands too Link to comment
SAS REJECT Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 hello can yoy buy pods of the net or from a shop ? what do mandarin eat other than pods ? Link to comment
Sexy Shrimp Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 You can buy them on the net and some shops. Very few mandarins will eat frozen food. Though some have more experienced trained them onto frozen (seedemtails is one). Link to comment
Pickle010 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 It get's expensive replenishing pods - how big is this tank? (Sorry I didn't read all the posts) Do you have a sump / refugium? Link to comment
maxijazz Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 maybe this might be a silly question but now one asked are they dying once there added to the tank or after a few dyas, what im saying is the acclimitation being done properly Link to comment
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