sammyman Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 How much would you pay for this assuming everything is roughly 1 year old, corals and fish are good sizes and healthy, and assuming you want everything in one package? Gear Includes: 55 Gallon Tank stand and canopy one year ago, custom made cabinets Marshall island live rock 50 lbs. 2x 250 watt (d.e.) metal halides with ice cap balasts 75 watt v.h.o. fixture mag drive pump 500 g.p.h. Refugium/sump JbJ arctica chiller 1/10 h.p. Pumbing..vinyl, bulkheads, clams, fittings Aqua C urchin Pro skimmer w/mag drive Built in cooling fans(coralife) 2x3'' Natural wave (wave timmer and outlets) maxi jets 2 1200's and 2 900's Phosban reactor Mounted timmers and utility power strips Corals and fish include: 6" Derosa Clam retail Purple digitata Purple and green digitata Awesome multi color mushroom rock Beautiful frog spawn with about 15 heads Pink lobophillia Rare spotted mushrooms Pocilipora XL purple Cali tort Med purple cali tort colony size cali tort Green slimer Beautiful show piece bink Birds Nest Tounge coral FIsh include: Small blue tang..very healthy 2 absolutely RARE Black Percula clown Fridmonte Psudo chromis (red sea) 2 yellow watchman gobbies paired wit a pistol shrimp Target mandarin pom pom crab Link to comment
reefdan Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 all depends on usage on equipment (esp. lights and chiller), quality/condition of tank and livestock, etc.. craigslist value? ehhh.. approx 800? 900? not too sure btw, black percula aren't that rare. neither are b/w ocellaris (which these might be)... and that tank is too small for a blue tang Link to comment
sammyman Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 all depends on usage on equipment (esp. lights and chiller), quality/condition of tank and livestock, etc.. craigslist value? ehhh.. approx 800? 900? not too sure btw, black percula aren't that rare. neither are b/w ocellaris (which these might be)... and that tank is too small for a blue tang Really? Wow! I would have thought a lot more than 8-900. Here is a picture that may or may not change your opinion. BTW, I know that Black Percula aren't terribly rare, but this is a list that a seller provided. Link to comment
glennr1978 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Really? Wow! I would have thought a lot more than 8-900. Here is a picture that may or may not change your opinion. BTW, I know that Black Percula aren't terribly rare, but this is a list that a seller provided. I was gonna say $750. Around here used tanks like this don't come up to often, but when they do they go pretty cheap. Link to comment
reefdan Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 that tank looks gorgeous. the most pricey items are the chiller, lights, skimmer. Link to comment
sammyman Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 that tank looks gorgeous. the most pricey items are the chiller, lights, skimmer. It is one of the nicest I have seen as far as quality etc, but the seller is asking about 1/2 of the retail cost of all of the items, which happens to be a lot more than the 750-900 you guys are suggesting. Link to comment
supreme_spork Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 i'd rather grow-out the tank myself from the beginning and enjoy the journey. Link to comment
sammyman Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 i'd rather grow-out the tank myself from the beginning and enjoy the journey. My guess is picking up everything one piece at a time would cost a lot more than buying everything at once. Link to comment
ReefMonkeee Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 My guess is picking up everything one piece at a time would cost a lot more than buying everything at once. true that, their really isn't anything that expensive on his list. nothing on that list should cost you an arm or a leg so make an offer and see how that goes. Link to comment
HecticDialectics Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 It is one of the nicest I have seen as far as quality etc, but the seller is asking about 1/2 of the retail cost of all of the items, which happens to be a lot more than the 750-900 you guys are suggesting. No one but an idiot actually pays -retail- for aquarium stuff. Just like one of my local fish stores wants $40 for a t5 bulb I can get for $19 online.. haha, cute, but no. I just went down the list typing in prices you'd -expect- to pay, like $6 for Marshall, $150 for a 55gallon tank, $250-300 for a nice stand, $150 per icecap mh ballast, etc The corals probably cost as much as a lot of the equipment, just cause those are some decent sized colonies. I mean, you aren't gonna buy a 15 head frogspawn for less than $100-150 anywhere, and a birdsnest that big would be a deal at $75-100. I came up with around $2500. Half would be $1250. I guess that's a pretty decent deal just cause it comes with some nice coral, assuming the SPS don't all die when you move the tank, and a lot of them probably will. Link to comment
sammyman Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 No one but an idiot actually pays -retail- for aquarium stuff. Just like one of my local fish stores wants $40 for a t5 bulb I can get for $19 online.. haha, cute, but no. I just went down the list typing in prices you'd -expect- to pay, like $6 for Marshall, $150 for a 55gallon tank, $250-300 for a nice stand, $150 per icecap mh ballast, etc The corals probably cost as much as a lot of the equipment, just cause those are some decent sized colonies. I mean, you aren't gonna buy a 15 head frogspawn for less than $100-150 anywhere, and a birdsnest that big would be a deal at $75-100. I came up with around $2500. Half would be $1250. I guess that's a pretty decent deal just cause it comes with some nice coral, assuming the SPS don't all die when you move the tank, and a lot of them probably will. Thanks for the breakdown and analysis. Would it increase the value if the owner was an "expert" working at an aquatics store for a few years? My thinking is that he would obviously have the knowledge to pick nicer corals, and nicer rocks. In fact he told me he spent 9 months collecting the rocks alone. Or should this decrease the value because he obviously has some discount, so it could be a negotiating point.... Link to comment
Smurf Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Lol, I'd say just pay him $600 or nothing. Hahahaha Link to comment
scarfish Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Give the guy $20 and 2 slaps across his face Link to comment
sammyman Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 Give the guy $20 and 2 slaps across his face I am glad I asked, so now I can go beat the crap out of him. BTW, original asking price was $3500!!! HAHAHA! Link to comment
nanu-nanu Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I think it's worth $2000. I mean, worth that much and how much i'd actually pay is different. For you guys saying 6-700 dollars. That's how much the livestock is worth, at least. Link to comment
joesmoe517 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 that picture looks like a curved front tank to me (maybe 46 bowfront) but maybe im just seeing things. I would pay $1500 for it and no more, simply because those acro colonies are huge and the halides, chiller, t5's, and skimmer add up to a lot of money if you were to buy them new. Link to comment
HecticDialectics Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Thanks for the breakdown and analysis. Would it increase the value if the owner was an "expert" working at an aquatics store for a few years? My thinking is that he would obviously have the knowledge to pick nicer corals, and nicer rocks. In fact he told me he spent 9 months collecting the rocks alone. Or should this decrease the value because he obviously has some discount, so it could be a negotiating point.... I dunno.. imo spending 9 months collecting rocks sounds like bs. I also think that should reduce the price cause he probably did get it all cheaper. As an expert, he should know that moving an established tank is gonna screw with some of the corals, which is why I think the coral prices should be reduced by at least half, if not more, as well. A bunch of dirt and debris that's settled in the sand and live rock is gonna get mixed around and give you a bit of a nutrient spike, and that skimmer is hardly top of the line for that size that, so it's not like it'll be able to skim it all out overnight. $1000 would probably be a good deal, with 75-100 free gallons of salt water mixed to tank salinity with the same tank salt for the move. And if you do go for it, don't reuse that sand... use new sand that won't be full of crap. The corals, all those sps, are dangerous bets because they may all die, so I wouldn't let him act like the decent-sized colonies are worth very much extra. The guy may not like it, but he should realize he'd make a lot more if he parted it out. Selling it all at once will cost him some money <shrugs> That's just how it seems to work with all the classifieds I've seen. No one wants to pay a large amount of money for a bunch of used crap. Everyone wants a deal. A deal on a single item is a lot different than a deal on a bunch of stuff. Link to comment
reefone Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I think it's worth $2000. I mean, worth that much and how much i'd actually pay is different. For you guys saying 6-700 dollars. That's how much the livestock is worth, at least. true, but it loses value. u will never get what u payed for it. id say the tank in question $1000. Link to comment
sammyman Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 true, but it loses value. u will never get what u payed for it. id say the tank in question $1000. I just got another picture for you to check out of the tank. Any other comments now? This tank does make me drool Link to comment
scarfish Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I just got another picture for you to check out of the tank. Any other comments now? Its still not worth $3500. Link to comment
ReefMonkeee Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 where are you located, if you're close by to me ill pitch in some money for the cost if you let me have that clam in his tank : ] hahah when you buy it. Link to comment
HecticDialectics Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I just got another picture for you to check out of the tank. Any other comments now? This tank does make me drool Oh god. I just realized it was a bowfront. Subtract $400 from $1000. Viewing distortion drops the value pretty fast Link to comment
joesmoe517 Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 i told you it looked like a 46 bow from the first picture. Its really hard to get nice macro shots with a bowfront tank Link to comment
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