DAP Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Does Purple up really work? Link to comment
Six Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 its kalkwasser mix in a bottle. watered down and everything. it works, but there are other, cheaper, ways to dose calcium and alkalinity buffer. do a search for Kalkwasser Drips on google. if you dont want to do a drip, get a bottle and some dry kalk mix (or pickling lime for that matter) and mix your own "purple up". in this hobby, they can sell you water and call it a miracle cure. Link to comment
Steve973 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Give your tank some time, and a good and thorough maintenance schedule. Everything will work out over time if you keep your water quality as high as possible. Don't worry about gimmic products. Just maintain proper calcium and alkalinity and you'll get enough coralline. Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 anyone know what lighting is needed for a fish only 10gal tank to get coraline to grow nice and purple? i dont plan on having corals Link to comment
Steve973 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Already answered this in your other thread. Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 yeah, you said just a 50/50 but didnt specify wattage. and you might be the only person on here that hasnt suggested something over 80 watts Link to comment
Steve973 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 If you're talking about a standard 10 gallon tank, then the standard hood with a normal output fluorescent 50/50 bulb is enough to grow lots and lots of coralline. I wouldn't go with anything special if you're not keeping coral since you absolutely don't need it. Maybe andykee will post a picture of the insane amount of coralline his girlfriend gets with just that bulb and no special dosing or anything. Link to comment
andykee Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Maybe andykee will post a picture of the insane amount of coralline his girlfriend gets with just that bulb and no special dosing or anything. I'll post a picture tonight. Check back at 8pm (EST) or so... Link to comment
Steve973 Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hey, post a few pictures of sadass, too, while you're at it! Link to comment
andykee Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 ok, here are the pics... first, the coralline factory. we use NO suppliments and dose nothing. the coralline really takes off, and the glass is usually covered bi-weekly (not full coverage, but probably 50% surface area, like the back). we just did a wc and scraped it all off of the 3 viewing panes, but you can see it all on the rock and back glass. and just for steve, whose avitar looks like he has a sadass... it's SADASS!!! it's my gf's brother. he lived with us for about 6 months. he was perpetually sad for the last 3 months he lived with us. in this picture, he is sad because his sister (my gf) bought too much shampoo, and now the poor kids in china can't wash their hair Link to comment
DAP Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 Thanks guys, I figured it was just some "snake oil". Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 so how much wattage is there? was the coraline already established on the rock? Link to comment
andykee Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 she is running a 15W 50/50 flourescent bulb. there was coralline algae present on the rock, but nowhere near the coverage there is now following the cycle. that is one thing that i don;t think was mentioned here yet... you have to have a living "seed" somewhere, this stuff doesn't just appear all of a sudden. Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 right, but i was just making sure that your coraline actually grew. how long did it take to look as purple as that? and what does the 50/50 term exactly mean? Link to comment
andykee Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 yeah, it def. grew... it took about 6 months MAX to get full coverage. a 50/50 bulb is a 50/50 mix of 6500k (white) and 420nm actnic (blue) light. i think it is something like the equivalent of a 14000k mh bulb. Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 can these be found at a LFS or should I order online from coralife? I am assuming you have these fit into a stock hood and not a pc Link to comment
andykee Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I got mine from (gasp) petsmart or petco... Can't remember which. I think it was like $15 max. There is nothing special about these bulbs, they are pretty common. They do have to go into a stock hood though. Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 what a delema. you say 15watts and some people suggest 40watts. :-/ Link to comment
andykee Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I'm not suggesting anything, just showing you what I've got. Here's something to consider though... 15w is pretty much too dim to doanything but keep rock and fish (and coralline). There are some pink and green star polyps and some zoanthids in the tank as well, and all are straining for light. Even if you don't want coral right now, but there is the smallest chance you will in toe future, I would say go with the 40. You couls also stick with the stock 15w and upgrade later. I think her whole lighting setup was something like $30 including the bulb, so it isa pretty cheap solution. Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I work at a LFS so I get everything for cost. I have a 20gal hex with 80 watts over it that I may put corals in one day that sits in my living room. this 10gal is next to my bed and I doubt it will house anything other than fish. I simply dont have the time to care for corals. So I think I will try to put some low level wattage in the stock hood and see how things go. Thanks a ton for your help. Link to comment
Primeval Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 the LFS told me not to put a 50/50 bulb in a stock 20" hood or i'll melt it. plus, the pins are different Link to comment
MarineManiac Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 primeval, do you have a incandescent fixture? or flourecent? the screw in ones fit in the incandescent spots (2) of them, you can get them from miejer to. heres a link. incan 50/50 if you have the floro hood floro 50/50 Link to comment
andykee Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 if you have the floro hood floro 50/50 btw, this is the EXACT bulb that is in her tank... Link to comment
Steve973 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 the first rule of nano reefing is to *TALK* about nano reefing. the second rule of nano reefing is not to pay attention to the fish store guys. Link to comment
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