NanoTopia Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Forgive me if I missed it but how long are you dipping it in the Revive. I managed to get rid of them before using Revive. I removed the corals and placed them in buckets of salt water with same specs as the tank but with a fairly strong dose of Revive (greater than recommended, think I have it listed in my old 40 breeder thread). I kept them in the bucket for about 45 minutes in the revive mixed water with a power head circulating and to help blow off any worms. I had to scrape away the eggs as well. I repeated the treatment twice more over two weeks. Never had them come back again. It stresses the coral a bit but they eventually recover. Dip is 5 capfuls Revive per 1 gallon of tank water for 5 minutes (basting for the last minute) then dip in tank water only (separate bucket) for rinse 2 minutes, then return to tank. 45 minute in Revive seems too long for a dip. I have not heard of dipping for this period of time. I feel 5 minutes is stressful enough for most SPS. Link to comment
steely185 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 A local store owner who's been at for 20 years said this is how he handles all his coral shipments before sale regardless of origin. I tried it and it worked, I repeated the dip twice more over three weeks. It did not stress the corals to the point of death. AEFW are pretty hard to get rid of so the extra measure seemed to help at least in my case. Other meds like levamisole are harder and harder to come by these days and some require prescriptions. They are often just as stressful. Link to comment
JDigital Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Great thread Christine! Sucks to hear you are still dealing with the AEFWs. Looking forward to seeing your tank back at full strength. Link to comment
neuwave Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Since your thread has become aefw central. Here is a pic I took of aefw. Hate these little buggers. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 Since your thread has become aefw central. Here is a pic I took of aefw. Hate these little buggers. Now that's a great picture neuwave. So here is some progress on my A.millepora which was worst hit (that is still alive). I have not dipped it since the first shot, second one was taken today. As you can see, not looking so good. October 1 2012 Bouncing back baby! Taken today. October 15 2012 Link to comment
JR! Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 looking much better Christine. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 A local store owner who's been at for 20 years said this is how he handles all his coral shipments before sale regardless of origin. I tried it and it worked, I repeated the dip twice more over three weeks. It did not stress the corals to the point of death. AEFW are pretty hard to get rid of so the extra measure seemed to help at least in my case. Other meds like levamisole are harder and harder to come by these days and some require prescriptions. They are often just as stressful. The dips seem to be working well enough. It's kind of a balancing act, the corals are stressed out as is, the amount of dips it can handle is limited over a short period of time. Of course dependent on how bad the coral is to start with. Great thread Christine! Sucks to hear you are still dealing with the AEFWs. Looking forward to seeing your tank back at full strength. Thanks JDigital, I think I will be able to rid this of my corals soon however, will I re-introduce these guys back in one day with new corals? Ultimately I need a coral QT. I just set up a fish QT today, this hobby is getting more and more expensive every day. looking much better Christine. Thanks JR, I will post another picture of the same coral in two weeks, I'm hoping it's recovered by then [fingers crossed]. Link to comment
albertthiel Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Looks like things are improving indeed .... Link to comment
metrokat Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Glad to see things are turning around. Have you tried melafix marine for a coral dip? Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Looks like things are improving indeed .... Thank you albert, I will be adding some new fish in the future, just got my QT up and running. Thought I would add some fish while things are settling with the corals. Glad to see things are turning around. Have you tried melafix marine for a coral dip? Thank you Kat, I have never tried this product, have you, if so how is it? I use Revive from Two Little Fishes. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 Just set up my QT tank yesterday, this one for fish, as I plan to introduce some new fish into the 20 gallon in the near future. Here's a picture of it (waiting for cycle) then off to the fishy store. Nothing goes into my tank without a 30 day minimum quarantine. Link to comment
metrokat Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Thank you Kat, I have never tried this product, have you, if so how is it? I use Revive from Two Little Fishes. I haven't used it for a dip yet, have been using Coral RX. But ReHype and some others use Melafix Marine. It is also a natural bacterial infection remedy which is reef safe. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 I haven't used it for a dip yet, have been using Coral RX. But ReHype and some others use Melafix Marine. It is also a natural bacterial infection remedy which is reef safe. I'll look into it Kat, thanks Link to comment
albertthiel Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Just set up my QT tank yesterday, this one for fish, as I plan to introduce some new fish into the 20 gallon in the near future. Here's a picture of it (waiting for cycle) then off to the fishy store. Nothing goes into my tank without a 30 day minimum quarantine. That's the ticket Christine ... better safe than sorry ... with all the diseases and parasites that seem to be going around currently based on quite a few posts I read here and on other forums one cannot be "too" careful. Hopefully your AEFW issue is getting under control as your SPS seem to be getting in better shape. Link to comment
albertthiel Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I haven't used it for a dip yet, have been using Coral RX. But ReHype and some others use Melafix Marine. It is also a natural bacterial infection remedy which is reef safe. It contains cajeput oil (melaleuca) like tea tree oil and the MSDS on it is a bit alarming ... MSDS: http://cms.marsfishcare.com/files/msds/mel...rine_092007.pdf Cajeput Oil : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajuput_oil FWIW Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 That's the ticket Christine ... better safe than sorry ... with all the diseases and parasites that seem to be going around currently based on quite a few posts I read here and on other forums one cannot be "too" careful. Hopefully your AEFW issue is getting under control as your SPS seem to be getting in better shape. Things do look like they are improving, but one can never be sure short term with AEFW. It contains cajeput oil (melaleuca) like tea tree oil and the MSDS on it is a bit alarming ... MSDS: http://cms.marsfishcare.com/files/msds/mel...rine_092007.pdf Cajeput Oil : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajuput_oil FWIW I have had some bad experiences dosing "reef safe" chemicals or medications into a reef in the past. The SPS corals and and organisms are just to sensitive. Many products say "reef safe" on them, I am not convinced this is truly the case. I would rather play it safe and stay away from "quick fixes" in the reef. I would add that even Revive, a common coral dip, is fairly harsh on SPS if dipped frequently. It will cause corals to brown out and even bleach, as was the case with my SPS. Christine Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Just a side note regarding coral dips and contents: Most of them contain some kind of natural irritant, since Albert listed the active ingredients of Melafix I thought I would list the active ingredients of Revive Coral Cleaner and Coral RX. Using low dose dips can be quite effective at removing all sorts of organisms from coral and rock. Two Little Fishies Revive Coral Cleaner (regular strength) contains 0.5% Oleum abietis or more commonly known as Pine oil, and 0.5% Citrus limon. Coral RX contains, Ingredients: Distilled Water, Proprietary Blend of Natural Extracts. (Coral Rx Industrial contains no distilled water). I guess theirs is a secret. I don't know if any are better than the other but if used as directed, they are safe (with caution) for use on most corals. I suffer from contact dermatitis, so I wear gloves when dipping corals, as these dips can irritate skin. I always do a rinse bath (separate bucket with tank water) following the coral dip to ensure I do not introduce the dip solution back to the aquarium. Christine Link to comment
albertthiel Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Just a side note regarding coral dips and contents: Most of them contain some kind of natural irritant, since Albert listed the active ingredients of Melafix I thought I would list the active ingredients of Revive Coral Cleaner and Coral RX. Using low dose dips can be quite effective at removing all sorts of organisms from coral and rock. Two Little Fishies Revive Coral Cleaner (regular strength) contains 0.5% Oleum abietis or more commonly known as Pine oil, and 0.5% Citrus limon. Coral RX contains, Ingredients: Distilled Water, Proprietary Blend of Natural Extracts. (Coral Rx Industrial contains no distilled water). I guess theirs is a secret. I don't know if any are better than the other but if used as directed, they are safe (with caution) for use on most corals. I suffer from contact dermatitis, so I wear gloves when dipping corals, as these dips can irritate skin. I always do a rinse bath (separate bucket with tank water) following the coral dip to ensure I do not introduce the dip solution back to the aquarium. Christine Thanks Christine and also for doing the research on the others you list I agree with you that dipping is always a risky business and the "coral safe" specs on many products do not really mean anything as there is no technical authoritative definition of what reef safe really means. Just saying Link to comment
Jessy-Ray Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Just set up my QT tank yesterday, this one for fish, as I plan to introduce some new fish into the 20 gallon in the near future. Here's a picture of it (waiting for cycle) then off to the fishy store. Nothing goes into my tank without a 30 day minimum quarantine. Hey NT, could you give me a run down on the biological filter you are cycling in the QT, I have wanted to set one up but can never get a straight set of answers. Link to comment
albertthiel Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Just a side note regarding coral dips and contents: Most of them contain some kind of natural irritant, since Albert listed the active ingredients of Melafix I thought I would list the active ingredients of Revive Coral Cleaner and Coral RX. Using low dose dips can be quite effective at removing all sorts of organisms from coral and rock. Two Little Fishies Revive Coral Cleaner (regular strength) contains 0.5% Oleum abietis or more commonly known as Pine oil, and 0.5% Citrus limon. Coral RX contains, Ingredients: Distilled Water, Proprietary Blend of Natural Extracts. (Coral Rx Industrial contains no distilled water). I guess theirs is a secret. I don't know if any are better than the other but if used as directed, they are safe (with caution) for use on most corals. I suffer from contact dermatitis, so I wear gloves when dipping corals, as these dips can irritate skin. I always do a rinse bath (separate bucket with tank water) following the coral dip to ensure I do not introduce the dip solution back to the aquarium. Christine Based on the odor of Coral X one could think that it has Pinesol in it ... probably because it too contains Pine Oil FWIW Link to comment
Spirofucci Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Based on the odor of Coral X one could think that it has Pinesol in it ... probably because it too contains Pine Oil FWIW LOL, I think you could clean your house with it! Hope things are improving for you NT!!! Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Based on the odor of Coral X one could think that it has Pinesol in it ... probably because it too contains Pine Oil FWIW LOL, I think you could clean your house with it! Hope things are improving for you NT!!! To be honest I believe there are some similarities between Pines Sol and Revive/CoralRX. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hey NT, could you give me a run down on the biological filter you are cycling in the QT, I have wanted to set one up but can never get a straight set of answers. I am fully cycling my QT before adding fish which I advise. You want to keep a QT as simple as possible. I filled the media basket in the AC20 with Seachem Matrix to establish the biological filtration (acts as dry rock). I dose some bacteria and a little food to get things started. I also have some floss in the AC20. The Matrix is cheap so after I am done with the quarantine I can just discard the Matrix. No sand, no rock, no carbon. I monitor ammonia with a Seachem ammonia alert badge and test kit daily along with nitrate levels, after the cycle is complete. Water changes are done frequently or as required based on nutrient/ammonia levels. If the biological filter is established there should be no problem keeping one or two small fish in a 10 gallon. Filter looks like this: Hope this helps. Link to comment
JR! Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 well done. how is the recovery coming? Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 well done. how is the recovery coming? Slow and steady, I'm loosing my blue acro now. Oh well, it's replaceable but I have had it for a year. Thanks for asking JR. Made a cover for the QT out of egg create today. Should hold everyone in, once there in that is Link to comment
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