The First Ever, Un-Authorized, Not Approved, Live Sand Exchange

[erickj_az]

At lease the first ever that I know of, in the history of this forum or any of the forums.

 

Wild and crazy me, I'm going to take a step out and try something a bit new. I'm creating a community sand box, well tank.

 

Here's the deal: All day Saturday my back door will be open and I'll have a tank full of fresh salt water mixed and swishing around. You are all invited to bring a sample of the sand from your tank and add it to tank. Bring a cup, dish, bowl, bag, handful or any amount you like. I will then add the same amount of dry, top quality sand to the mix. I'll stir it all up, add a few live rocks, critters and fish. Do water changes weekly and in a month everyone can come back and claim the amount of sand they dropped off from a new completely bio diverse sand bed and seed their tanks with new and exciting microorganisms.

 

I'm going to do my best to keep the pesky stuff at bay and relish the opportunity to create a good clean sand bed for the entire community. I only require the input on how to succeed with this endeavor be positive. If you're going to present a problem with my plan be prepared to present a solution. If you are creative to think of a reason I might fail you are certainly are creative enough to think of a way we can succeed, together!

 

The beauty of this is there will be a permanent community sand bed established for anyone starting a new system. All they have to do is come by drop off a bag of dry sand to add to the tank and scoop out a like amount of live sand for their new tank. All built on the entire communities diverse microbiology.

 

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Back door of Suite B-2

5025 S. Ash

Tempe, Arizona 85282

10 am to 10 pm

Open house. Free RO/DI water while it lasts.

Snacks and Sodas Provided

Round table marine discussion all day long.

[Nemo Niblets]

I am going to poison the water.

[got2envy]

with kool aid?

[nanoreef-R]

So why is this getting you band?

[Nemo Niblets]

He thinks we're like other reef sites...

[nanoreef-R]

He thinks we're like other reef sites...

 

Wow. He needs a wake up call.

[RyanR1212]

i think its a good idea.... but i dont live in arizona.

 

good luck man!

[erickj_az]

I cross posted to a couple of different forums to get the best repose. I should have taken that part out for this forum. I'll see if I can edit it.

 

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i think its a good idea.... but i dont live in arizona.

 

good luck man!

 

 

Well, you can still participate. Fedex, man!

 

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[Nemo Niblets]

WE DON'T CROSS POST TO DIFFERENT FORUMS. EVER.

[jetthril]

i think its a good idea.... but i dont live in arizona.

 

good luck man!

 

This is a great idea to develop visible culture representations of this site, why are people knocking the idea. Too bad I live no where close to AZ.

[RyanR1212]

i would but fedex can lick my balls. shipping is way to much

[redhawk45]

That is a stupid idea if I ever heard one...for BOTH sides. One, if we 'bring him sand', then it will seem he's benefiting anyway from our hard work with keeping up our aquariums. Two, if some one of us has something majorly wrong, say, a pest, to bring to his aquarium, then his aquarium is going to go under (and I believe he sounds like a HUGE ameture to me) quickly. Three, if, somehow, his aquarium does do good...how are we to tell that his bed (when it comes time within whatever amount of time given) is clean when we come or get that same amount of sand sent back? Heck, my sand bed is half dirty...I wouldn't want any other person to take my sand and then complain that I killed his/her tank off. Because my tank is an eco-system unto itself, it's doing pretty good on its own. Introduce something into it, and it goes off balance for a week or two. Who's to say other people's tanks will bounce back like mine?

 

Therefore, THAT is why this is a bad idea if I ever heard one. Coral is fine to trade. Inverts are fine to trade. Even fish, if you're lucky, are fine to trade..but never mess with a guy's sand bed or live rock!

[erickj_az]

WE DON'T CROSS POST TO DIFFERENT FORUMS. EVER.

 

 

I just figured it would give the most people across the spectrum of reefing the opportunity to participate. Is that bad?

 

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[Bill Nye]

Hi my name is Chris Hansen why dont you take a seat over there.

[Nemo Niblets]

I just figured it would give the most people across the spectrum of reefing the opportunity to participate. Is that bad?

 

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No, I'm just kidding. This is very generous of you.

 

I can't think of much negative biodiversity that's going to come through sand unless you have high phosphates/nitrates. If you have high phosphates/nitrates, you'll have problems no matter what.

[erickj_az]

That is a stupid idea if I ever heard one...for BOTH sides. One, if we 'bring him sand', then it will seem he's benefiting anyway from our hard work with keeping up our aquariums. Two, if some one of us has something majorly wrong, say, a pest, to bring to his aquarium, then his aquarium is going to go under (and I believe he sounds like a HUGE ameture to me) quickly. Three, if, somehow, his aquarium does do good...how are we to tell that his bed (when it comes time within whatever amount of time given) is clean when we come or get that same amount of sand sent back? Heck, my sand bed is half dirty...I wouldn't want any other person to take my sand and then complain that I killed his/her tank off. Because my tank is an eco-system unto itself, it's doing pretty good on its own. Introduce something into it, and it goes off balance for a week or two. Who's to say other people's tanks will bounce back like mine?

 

Therefore, THAT is why this is a bad idea if I ever heard one. Coral is fine to trade. Inverts are fine to trade. Even fish, if you're lucky, are fine to trade..but never mess with a guy's sand bed or live rock!

 

First, This will be a completely different tank which is dedicated to this project.

Second, I am a complete amateur.

Third, Each of our echo systems are unique and the more diverse our bio systems become the more tolerant they will become. The idea is that by having more microorganisms in our aquariums we are protecting our environments with greater diversity. You get back the same amount you put in. What's your risk? A handful of sand? Really? You need help.

Fourth, you violated the only rule I set out. You contributed only negativity to the project and therefore you are excluded.

 

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[Phyto4life]

I agree regarding the good,bad and ugly

[GiantBen]

So why is this getting you band?

Banned. There are no instruments involved.

[Nemo Niblets]

Banned. There are no instruments involved.

Your mom

[ryno920]

The only problem I could see happening is when people come back to collect the sand the people getting the top couple inches will get some nice sand filled with various organisms, and the people getting the bottom couple inches will just get cups of toxic sand from the nasty buildup in the bottom of the sand bed.

[nanoreef-R]

Your mom

 

Damn right.

 

I did it to piss off those who have nothing better to do. I see it works.

[Markushka]

I think this is a very cool concept. I'd contribute if I wasn't across the country. This is a very good idea for starting new tanks IMO, you'd be able to start with real Live Sand versus the stuff you buy in bags thats dead already.

[erickj_az]

The only problem I could see happening is when people come back to collect the sand the people getting the top couple inches will get some nice sand filled with various organisms, and the people getting the bottom couple inches will just get cups of toxic sand from the nasty buildup in the bottom of the sand bed.

 

So your solution to that issue?

 

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[nanoreef-R]

So your solution to that issue?

 

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Nassarius Snails.

[Nemo Niblets]

Damn right.

 

I did it to piss off those who have nothing better to do. I see it works.

hey shut up