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Starting a new tank after around 5 years out of the hobby. This was my last tank.  Trying to learn the lessons of the past and get exactly what I need the first time vs. the patchwork approach.  This means equipment comes first...then livestock.  No impulse corals, all additions pre-planned, being responsible budget-wise, starting LEDs, sump, dead rock/sand for the first time...and good testing kits (electronic wherever possible).  

My main inspiration is a tank I recently saw on Reefbuilders .  Other inspiration is Pelphrey's Reefer videos, a guy on R2R named Broadfield, and what Lawn is doing with his wonderful Reefer 170.  The goal is an easier setup...a really nice, clean version of a tank you might see at a school or a library.  Plan to do LPS on one side of an X shaped rock structure...with some basic softies on the other side, lightly sprinked with 2-3 rock anenomes.
 
Eventual livestock:  
2 Perculas
1 Royal Gramma
1 Blue Reef Chromis???
1 Bicolor Blenny
1 Porcelain Crab
 
Eventual corals:

Frogspawn
Torch
Green Leather Toadstool
small GSP island
Duncans
Gorgonian
Rock Flower Anemome

Using 22 lbs Walt Smith 2.1 rock...soaked it in RO/DI for a few days...seems good so far.  Decided to give it a shot after watching BRS's 52-week tank videos.  I had seen some video complaining that the purple paint was flaking...now there was some of this, but that was mostly during the initial rinse.

EDIT:  Lot of paint flaking now occuring...would not recommend.  I even did a 2 week soak and lots of pre-cleaning to prevent...it didnt work.

One concern about this rock is just that it's unproven, and may not be that porous.  To counteract, added Marinepure in the sump, and another bit buried in the sand.  Using Tropic Eden Tonga Reef Flakes for sand.  Using mostly old equipment from my 30g build.
  • Running an old Sicce Syncra 2.0 for main pump.  (install of the green red sea tubing was a pain, but finally got it attached to the stock outlet after about an hour of forcing it)
  • Old Vortech MP10 x 2 with Ecotech battery backup  (opened it up and replaced the battery)
  • Old Eheim heater
  • Old Reefkeeper Lite controlling the heater
  • Bubble Magus Curve 5 skimmer
  • Old Tunze ATO
  • Nanobox Duo M on a 15" gooseneck
Was going for an X shape, which I did achieve...if you saw from top down.  This scape could change as I just slapped it all in there, knowing I wanted an X shape cave...
 

red sea 170 beginning

initial attempt at X rockworks

 
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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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Welcome back. Looking forward to seeing your build.


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Great looking scape! Looking forward to this thread.

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I love Red Sea Reefer tanks and nanobox.. looking forward to following. 


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Great looking scape! Looking forward to this thread.

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lol, thanks, was starting to freak out a bit that I wasn't being creative enough or something...No wild, jagged, eye catching rocks or anything...it's got a cave, a sloping X-shape and room for the corals I'm planning...and just so happens to kinda look like a boring mound.


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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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Wow great to see you back BB! I look forward to seeing this progress. 


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Eh. They all look like mounds once they are covered up. I think it's a great rock design for coral placement. What do you think of that Walt Smith rock? I'm torn between getting it or real gulf live rock. Were those the pieces you received or did you have to break them?



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Wow great to see you back BB! I look forward to seeing this progress. 

 

it was one article I read that got me back in...someone was saying, I'm paraphrasing.... that our reef tanks are the most naturally beautiful item anyone could add to their home...that they are living jewels, and nothing else that you can buy can come close to the beauty they provide....

I got to thinking on that and decided I had to dive back in...plus my twins are almost 4 now, and any time they see a fish tank they love it.  Looking forward to sharing the hobby with them.  


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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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The scape looks awesome :) you nailed that quick!
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Eh. They all look like mounds once they are covered up. I think it's a great rock design for coral placement. What do you think of that Walt Smith rock? I'm torn between getting it or real gulf live rock. Were those the pieces you received or did you have to break them?

 

Without diving into unknown chemistry issues these rocks may cause, I really like the rocks that were sent. 22 lb. box came with a bunch of nice shapes, the largest as big as smooshed softballs, and a few the size of smooshed tennis balls.  None of the rocks needed to be broken.  

I have read some iffy-reviews, but because this tank is gonna be a FOWLR until I can afford my first corals...this is a very slow and deliberate build so I really wanted it to start with some purple...and yes, I do know that's kinda lame.

 

A big part of this thread is gonna be covering issues I have with the Walt Smith 2.1...but when you look at that BRS 52 week tank, it looks solid.  


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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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just dosed ammonia and dr. fritz turbo start 900...here's a look at the sump with the Tunze ATO installed hooked to a temp. bucket on side of tank.  not that it's permanent, but the bucket doesn't look as junky or obvious in person for some reason...Not sure how to totally avoid the wire nest without having a false wall or tucking behind stand. Also briefly unboxed the Curve 5 to see if it fit.

 

Edit: 16 day cycle.

 

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My Nanobox Duo still isnt here, btw...shipped on 12/10.  Website says it should have been here Tuesday,  Not sure I'll ever buy something that expensive again and not have it shipped via trackable UPS.  USPS Priority is a joke, double so during the Holidays.


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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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Looks good going to hang your battery back up?

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TBH seems a tad heavy to hang it.


JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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TBH seems a tad heavy to hang it.

I hung mine this is a old picture but my battery back up has been there since the beginning.
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cycling...ammonia is finally 0.  Nitrites starting to drop...Nanobox Duo M arrived, really impressive so far...minor issues involving mounting screws, but that was resolved rapidly.  Very different coming from MH.  I need to stop trying to duplicate the MH look I think...I think I'll like the blue heavy look more once I have some corals.

 

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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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bought some wood and spray painted it flat white, covered with velcro on both outer edges, and attached it to the back of the stand/wedged against the wall...this prevents kids from messing around with the plugs, etc.

 

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I have a pair of clowns with at least somewhat similar coloring (not quite this cool, but there is lots of black on them, which I like...) hopefully waiting once the cycle is over.  My LFS has them but only does a 3 day hold...hoping someone won't buy them before I can:

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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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Nice! I'll be joining you soon with a Reefer 170 after 6 years out of the hobby. 


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Inspirational! What kind of clownfish is that?? I love it

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Nice! I'll be joining you soon with a Reefer 170 after 6 years out of the hobby. 

you waited just long enough :)  the reefer 170 is such a treat!  what light are you thinking of?


Inspirational! What kind of clownfish is that?? I love it

 

my LFS is labeling their version of this something like "ultra percula"...but that may or may not mean much.   my guess is they are just regular but nice colored perculas (or oscillaris?)  They are $35 per fish there.

 

the exact name of the one in that picture is/was:  

Ultra Grade Great Barrier Reef Percula Clown

also not sure if that means anything.  

 

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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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it was one article I read that got me back in...someone was saying, I'm paraphrasing.... that our reef tanks are the most naturally beautiful item anyone could add to their home...that they are living jewels, and nothing else that you can buy can come close to the beauty they provide....

I got to thinking on that and decided I had to dive back in...plus my twins are almost 4 now, and any time they see a fish tank they are transfixed.  Looking forward to sharing the hobby with them.

Gorgeous tank and sentiment :).
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just picked these up for New Year's Eve.  Went with orange instead of black & white this time for the kids to have colorful fish.  They're moving around more than this video indicates...doing a 2 hr. drip using the unused Red Sea ATO tank...I knew it would come in handy for something...

They have been at the same tank in the LFS for about 2 months that I've seen...no one has bought because they are priced just slightly more than most would want to spend on generic clowns...and the owner seemed to want to sell as a pair...they are displaying lots of 'mating' type behaviors...

 


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JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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you waited just long enough :)  the reefer 170 is such a treat!  what light are you thinking of?


I went with the AI Hydra 26. Should arrive sometime next week. 


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I almost got the Hydra as well, the only reason is I didn't quite understand the mounting options.

 



JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170

 

 

 


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I saved myself a few bucks and went with the Reefer Deluxe. Comes with the light and mount. Otherwise you have to purchase both and the mount is running ~ $75 on BRS. 


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yeah, that looked like a really cool way to get it.  also nice to know you're getting a somewhat "offical" light that goes with the tank.  



JBJ Nano Cube 24 - 2005-2007:  http://www.nano-reef...e/15914-tank28/

Finnex 30 - 2008-2011: - http://www.nano-reef...hp/t153954.html

Red Sea Reefer 170 - 2016 - : - http://www.nano-reef...-sea-reefer-170