al404 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I'm not sure if is a bed idea but i would like to know if occasionally dose some drops of vodka to encourage bacteria reproduction in an establish tank, maybe when i add a new shrimp or fish, could it be a good idea? I have a 17G nano with skimmer Link to comment
TheKleinReef Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 It'd work but vodka is easy to mess up using. I'm using vinegar and from what I've read it's much more forgiving. In my 65g I started really low, 5ml and slowly raised it to 40. Link to comment
brandon429 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 every feeding we do causes some population changes up and down and back to steady state, including carbon sources like wodka or vinegar, adding some isn't a big deal but its not super helpful unless you are doing the detailed carbon dosing/skimming routine. its incidental addition in the way you are describing it and the bac it boosts are the same groups that regular feeding and tank work will boost temporarily Link to comment
Clown79 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 From everything i have heard, carbon dosing is very detailed and precise. Just adding a few drops here and there isn't advisable. Link to comment
ABC Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Sounds interesting if you try it let us know how it work for you. Link to comment
ABC Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I have read a couple forums where people dosed Vodka and said there filter feeders and feather dusters appeared to do better. Link to comment
seabass Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm not sure if is a bed idea but i would like to know if occasionally dose some drops of vodka to encourage bacteria reproduction in an establish tank, maybe when i add a new shrimp or fish, could it be a good idea? Dosing carbon doesn't help nitrifying bacteria. I don't believe that this would be a good application of carbon dosing. Link to comment
al404 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 i'm not really interested in reducing NO3 more in reducing PO4 since my tank doesn't have a sump and i can't run rowa i ave softy and some LPS last year i did 1 water change a month but my PO4 got high NO3 about 10 mg/l PO4 about 0.10 mg/l not sure is it was also cause from some changes i did during summer at the end of september i used rowa inside an hang of the back filter and did a 20% + 10% water change and evening got really well i also added i new light like the other 2 i previously had and lowered the white and raised the blue i also star dosing live photo plancton but it just seems to pollute the water i started using kalwasse once a week and my corals seems happier the day after Link to comment
ABC Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I would test for calcium, alkilenity and magnesium along with nitrates and phosphates before you start dosing. What is you're maintenance schedule? Normally people don't carbon dose in a smalll tank because they can just change more water improve on tank maintenance. Link to comment
al404 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 I stated this tank a 17G tank, is an ADA 60P, last year in september After cycling period i start doing a water change about once a month i did dose live phytoplankton for the first 2 couple of months, after that i didn't dose anything else since i have a pistol shrimp, i'm now pretty sure is not a manthis shrimp, this summer i did take out all my rocks to see i could get out the shrimp i also spray some of the holes with carbonated water but whiteout success i knew that i had some nasty guest, after i came back from vacation i got a gorilla crab out of my tank after that i got a mate for my clown, now i have 2 clown and really few copepods at least that i can see my older clown never picked on rocks the new one is always looking for food on rocks like a mandarin fish so i'm not sure if what i did during the summer or my new fish is the cause for lower pods but since a couple of weeks i star dosing live phytoplankton that i get from LFS but it seems to pollute my water an not getting that great pods grow so i'm going to suspend it Link to comment
ABC Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Fish will eat the copopods, and clowns do not need them dosed to be healthy Link to comment
Clown79 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Why are you dosing live plankton? It will pollute the tank. Yes, moving rocks can disturb detritus but the big factor is maintenance. 10-15% weekly water changes with ro/di, ro, or distilled water is far more beneficial than 1 waterchange a month, especially in a small tank. Vacuuming the sand, using a turkey baster to blast the rocks, weekly will reduce your issues. Cleaning your hob monthly, changing floss 2 times a week. Testing every week, this is essential maintenance and will get you alot better results than dosing. Dosing vodka or vinegar is not meant as a short cut on water changes. Its usually done in high nutrient level tanks that still have weekly water changes. I think if you look into your maintenance routine and make changes, you will see a big difference in nutrient levels Link to comment
al404 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 sorry but english is not my primary language Vacuuming the sand, using a turkey baster to blast the rocks, weekly will reduce your issues. Cleaning your hob monthly, changing floss 2 times a week. what do you mean with blast the rock? and changing floss? Link to comment
Clown79 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Not to worry about the language barrier. I'm Italian with many non english speaking family members, so no worries. Filter floss. I wasn't sure if you use it in your filter. It traps all the stuff your filter takes in. If you use it, it needs to be changed 2 times a week. A lot of people will use a turkey baster to blow water on the rock during water change. It helps remove any particles, food, and poop from the rocks. Link to comment
al404 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 thanks for the explanation i only have a skimmer and 2 power head in my nano tank i used after the summer for a copule of days an hang on the back filter with rowa to low PO4 i never heard before about turkey buster for rocks but every day for about 10 minutes both my power herds are on and they make a really good water movement i also have 2 hermit and 2 shrimp i doubt i can have any particle of food in my tank i will post a picture later Link to comment
al404 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 this is a picture of my tank Link to comment
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