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So iam going to try chemiclean starting tomorrow for cyano.


Hammerstone

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jamescstein

You want lots of aeration. But turn off your skimmer if you have one.

 

When my wife used it we tried just taking the skimmer cup off. That just made the sump look like we had poured dish soap into it.

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Hammerstone

I have the filter, a powerhead, and a long bubble curtain. Do you think that will be enough? I don't have a skimmer though.

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tdannhauser30

If you have an air stone and pump it would definitely be a good idea to throw that in your tank while doing the treatment. That's what I did to hopefully prevent any oxygen deprivation problems

 

Just looked up what a bubble curtain is lol.. you should be ok I would think

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tanacharison

When I used it I actually left my skimmer on and removed the collection cup. Let the air bubbles go wild.

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Used it in my tank. Took a couple of days but results were amazing. Experimented wit my flow after that and must have gotten it right because there have been no outbreaks in almost a year.

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Hammerstone

So I stuck the medicine in my tank. Wish me luck please.

 

Just have anxiety about my clown friends ?❤️

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Hammerstone

So far so good with the life in my tank!! Nothing yet with the cyano, but that's to be expected I think ?

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ReeferBrian

Wishing you luck! I have had an outbreak that I THINK I got rid of with manual removal and adding chemipure elite

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Hammerstone

Yes!!! No casualties so far thank God!!! I still have cyano though. I'll keep y'all posted. I hope this helps others who wonder about the safety of this!!?

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Hammerstone

Did my 20% water change. The kids are alright lol. I still have a ton of cyano but I was able to suck some out.

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Hammerstone

Still have the cyano. A bit less but that might have to do with my manual labor lol. It seems to like flow and o2.

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Hammerstone

I was super careful about the directions and took out my carbon and everything. I was very nervous about adding chemicals to my tank but luckily it didn't hurt anything! I guess I'll give it a go again! Thank you ?

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brandon429

The results of the chemi clean not working hammer are predicted and addressed here

http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/373707-operation-cyano-hows-this-plan/#entry5338301

 

The variability of attacking the water works for some and not others, is variable. We detailed nonvariable fixes there, the one go cure for all cyano. Nearly universally people don't want the certain fix, they want water dosers and variability :)

 

Would it be accurate to say your sandbed cannot pass a drop test? If not, there's your locus. Interestingly we don't see many enduring cyano issues in bare bottom tanks, wonder why? The few we've seen have live rocks that reveal strong detritus inclusion but those are very rare.

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brandon429

This isn't the method I'd use for cyano, but they were studying water dosers here for that reason. Of a hundred cyano tanks here, how many had sand that wouldn't pass a clouding test, and how many were bare bottom?

http://reef2reef.com/threads/back-at-it-peroxide-vrs-cyanobacteria.241002/page-48

 

Case closed, easy. Cyano is the easiest invader to beat in one pass, no wait required. Chemi clean is a staple in the hobby because it usually works, but leaving waste in place only fuels imported cyano again one day, or the next invader like valonia for example/the real nasties. Chemi clean is likely to work for initial, light invasions. Any strong recurring ones need the ultimate clean.

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Hammerstone

Thank you for your help Brandon. When I set up the tank it was about a year before I found this site. I did a lot of rookie things like putting big heavy rock everywhere making it really difficult to access any, well much of the sand. I know that there is a lot of trapped detritus. Sucks. At least my fish and nems are doing good and the cyano I was able to remove hasn't grown back. I would have to take the whole tank down and remove my clowns to clean it really well and I'm scared to move stuff around now due to a likely ammonia spike and dead fish. ?

 

Also I may have used a little less of the chemiclean as I was scared the chemicals would hurt my animals or kill them.

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brandon429

excellent. if it helps, we have exhaustive threads on doing skip cycle cleaning, and the hesitancy makes me want to do it real bad now :)

 

here's one

http://reef2reef.com/threads/the-official-sand-rinse-thread-aka-one-against-many.230281/#post-2681445

 

lets rip clean that bad boy. I take a pico that is ten yrs old, part out all the rocks and coral on my cabinet in the air for 20 mins, rinse the whole sandbed in tap, then sw lastly, then reassemble and run mos w no cleaning. We'll be much nicer to your tank :) mines just to show the dynamic, in a single gallon of water with no room for cycling error. your tank w be a cakewalk if you want to.

 

 

that thread has examples of large and small tank rip cleanings, transfers, and moves, skipping a cycle is the easiest thing in reefing, they are never variable or unpredictable. not being able to pass a drop test for sand is the key motivator in all of it.

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