Hammerstone Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Wish me luck. I have quite the infestation, if you can call it that.? Link to comment
jamescstein Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 You want lots of aeration. But turn off your skimmer if you have one. When my wife used it we tried just taking the skimmer cup off. That just made the sump look like we had poured dish soap into it. Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I have the filter, a powerhead, and a long bubble curtain. Do you think that will be enough? I don't have a skimmer though. Link to comment
tdannhauser30 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 If you have an air stone and pump it would definitely be a good idea to throw that in your tank while doing the treatment. That's what I did to hopefully prevent any oxygen deprivation problems Just looked up what a bubble curtain is lol.. you should be ok I would think Link to comment
tanacharison Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 When I used it I actually left my skimmer on and removed the collection cup. Let the air bubbles go wild. Link to comment
StevieGF Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Used it in my tank. Took a couple of days but results were amazing. Experimented wit my flow after that and must have gotten it right because there have been no outbreaks in almost a year. Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 So I stuck the medicine in my tank. Wish me luck please. Just have anxiety about my clown friends ?❤️ Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Good luck. Keep us postedthank you!!? Link to comment
Pjanssen Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 clowns should be fine. Good luck. It works Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 So far so good with the life in my tank!! Nothing yet with the cyano, but that's to be expected I think ? Link to comment
ReeferBrian Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Wishing you luck! I have had an outbreak that I THINK I got rid of with manual removal and adding chemipure elite Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Yes!!! No casualties so far thank God!!! I still have cyano though. I'll keep y'all posted. I hope this helps others who wonder about the safety of this!!? Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Did my 20% water change. The kids are alright lol. I still have a ton of cyano but I was able to suck some out. Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 Still have the cyano. A bit less but that might have to do with my manual labor lol. It seems to like flow and o2. Link to comment
Pjanssen Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 You probably will have to treat more than once. Make sure you are following directions as to when to do a water change etc. Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 I was super careful about the directions and took out my carbon and everything. I was very nervous about adding chemicals to my tank but luckily it didn't hurt anything! I guess I'll give it a go again! Thank you ? Link to comment
brandon429 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The results of the chemi clean not working hammer are predicted and addressed here http://www.nano-reef.com/topic/373707-operation-cyano-hows-this-plan/#entry5338301 The variability of attacking the water works for some and not others, is variable. We detailed nonvariable fixes there, the one go cure for all cyano. Nearly universally people don't want the certain fix, they want water dosers and variability Would it be accurate to say your sandbed cannot pass a drop test? If not, there's your locus. Interestingly we don't see many enduring cyano issues in bare bottom tanks, wonder why? The few we've seen have live rocks that reveal strong detritus inclusion but those are very rare. Link to comment
brandon429 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 This isn't the method I'd use for cyano, but they were studying water dosers here for that reason. Of a hundred cyano tanks here, how many had sand that wouldn't pass a clouding test, and how many were bare bottom? http://reef2reef.com/threads/back-at-it-peroxide-vrs-cyanobacteria.241002/page-48 Case closed, easy. Cyano is the easiest invader to beat in one pass, no wait required. Chemi clean is a staple in the hobby because it usually works, but leaving waste in place only fuels imported cyano again one day, or the next invader like valonia for example/the real nasties. Chemi clean is likely to work for initial, light invasions. Any strong recurring ones need the ultimate clean. Link to comment
Hammerstone Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Thank you for your help Brandon. When I set up the tank it was about a year before I found this site. I did a lot of rookie things like putting big heavy rock everywhere making it really difficult to access any, well much of the sand. I know that there is a lot of trapped detritus. Sucks. At least my fish and nems are doing good and the cyano I was able to remove hasn't grown back. I would have to take the whole tank down and remove my clowns to clean it really well and I'm scared to move stuff around now due to a likely ammonia spike and dead fish. ? Also I may have used a little less of the chemiclean as I was scared the chemicals would hurt my animals or kill them. Link to comment
brandon429 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 excellent. if it helps, we have exhaustive threads on doing skip cycle cleaning, and the hesitancy makes me want to do it real bad now here's one http://reef2reef.com/threads/the-official-sand-rinse-thread-aka-one-against-many.230281/#post-2681445 lets rip clean that bad boy. I take a pico that is ten yrs old, part out all the rocks and coral on my cabinet in the air for 20 mins, rinse the whole sandbed in tap, then sw lastly, then reassemble and run mos w no cleaning. We'll be much nicer to your tank mines just to show the dynamic, in a single gallon of water with no room for cycling error. your tank w be a cakewalk if you want to. that thread has examples of large and small tank rip cleanings, transfers, and moves, skipping a cycle is the easiest thing in reefing, they are never variable or unpredictable. not being able to pass a drop test for sand is the key motivator in all of it. Link to comment
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